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Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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Master Chief is a descendant of the forerunners which still makes him forerunner. That's my guess because the human race is also a descendant of the forerunners, since they are the only ones that are able to activate the rings. My guess is that the keys sense the forerunner blood in humans and that is what allows them to activate the rings and not the covenant.

  • 10.08.2009 11:24 AM PDT

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It seems to me, That the next game bungie puts out will be before marathon, Or continue marathon somehow.


It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
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btw,
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NEW SUPPORTING EVIDENCE
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At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.

It also shows in the halo 3 permutation.
Take a look - Picture proof.
Side view / back view of the security helmet permutation ( adds the communication box )
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/securitycom side.jpg
And now the beginning of the legendary cutscene... You can clearly see the Com box floating with the cheif
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/?action=vie w&current=Securitycom.jpg


And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.
If you don't, You will be insulted. =]



As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.







Or, maybe you're just over-thinking everything. Maybe Bungie is just trying to throw people like you off.

  • 10.08.2009 1:24 PM PDT

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Not sure if this is on-topic or whatever...but back to the Halo/Marathon connection.

Ok listen, as we know, Marathon is a few hundred years ahead of Halo, about three-hundred or so. Now in both Halo and Marathon, there are hunters.

Halo's
Marathon's

Both, very similar. Tall, full set of armor, both shoot green plasma. And when shot, yellow or orange fluids would spew. Hunters are obviously the strongest enemies in Halo, which is why we only see two of them in every campaign level.

In Marathon, the only resemble you can see are the hunters. Why? Well because when the Covenant still existed, the Elites were wiped out, so were the grunts, jackals, brutes, etc. None could match up to the power that was a hunter. Which is why the species continued to live on. All the way up until Marathon's timeline.

In Marathon, they are more advanced, since it's been a few hundred years; two set of guns on each shoulder. This is Bungie decided to stick with Hunters, and drop the pfhor in later games and created "The Covenant".

So yeah, I'm just putting that out there. Pretty stupid theory but I thought I'd share. Basically, Master Chief is headed towards a planet filled with Hunter's and a Pfhor colony. Haha. Or, this could just be a connection to the OP.


Marathon is not in the same universe as Halo.

Multiple reasons why:

1. No UNSC in the Marathon games, nor any mention of it.

2. In the Marathon Universe Mankind's (American government) first contact with Aliens was in the 1990's, in the Halo games mankind first came in contact with Aliens at Harvest.

3. Master Chief nor any of the Spartans are related to the Marathon Cyborgs. The Marathon Cyborgs are made up of dead soldiers (also implanted with alien technology). Master Chief is not dead so he can not be the prognostic of the Marathon games.

There are many more reasons but that is just a few of them.

Maybe you can make a argument that Marathon is in a Parallel Universe to Halo (reason for similarities), but they can NEVER be in the same universe because of certain differences.

  • 10.08.2009 2:01 PM PDT
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I live by two things. One "Do what you can,with what you have,where you are" :Theodore Roosevelt: and "It matters not how a man dies, but how he lives" :Samuel Jhonson:

Whoever made this article is a comeplete genius. It is a very good theory nd im sticking with this one. I hope they continue master cheifs story from the marathon universe.

  • 10.08.2009 2:09 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.
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What about when they first went into the portal?
Was it the same one?Is the ark in a diferent universe to?


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  • 10.08.2009 2:39 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

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Posted by: BxR Twister
Not sure if this is on-topic or whatever...but back to the Halo/Marathon connection.

Ok listen, as we know, Marathon is a few hundred years ahead of Halo, about three-hundred or so. Now in both Halo and Marathon, there are hunters.

Halo's
Marathon's

Both, very similar. Tall, full set of armor, both shoot green plasma. And when shot, yellow or orange fluids would spew. Hunters are obviously the strongest enemies in Halo, which is why we only see two of them in every campaign level.

In Marathon, the only resemble you can see are the hunters. Why? Well because when the Covenant still existed, the Elites were wiped out, so were the grunts, jackals, brutes, etc. None could match up to the power that was a hunter. Which is why the species continued to live on. All the way up until Marathon's timeline.

In Marathon, they are more advanced, since it's been a few hundred years; two set of guns on each shoulder. This is Bungie decided to stick with Hunters, and drop the pfhor in later games and created "The Covenant".

So yeah, I'm just putting that out there. Pretty stupid theory but I thought I'd share. Basically, Master Chief is headed towards a planet filled with Hunter's and a Pfhor colony. Haha. Or, this could just be a connection to the OP.


Marathon is not in the same universe as Halo.

Multiple reasons why:

1. No UNSC in the Marathon games, nor any mention of it.

2. In the Marathon Universe Mankind's (American government) first contact with Aliens was in the 1990's, in the Halo games mankind first came in contact with Aliens at Harvest.

3. Master Chief nor any of the Spartans are related to the Marathon Cyborgs. The Marathon Cyborgs are made up of dead soldiers (also implanted with alien technology). Master Chief is not dead so he can not be the prognostic of the Marathon games.

There are many more reasons but that is just a few of them.

Maybe you can make a argument that Marathon is in a Parallel Universe to Halo (reason for similarities), but they can NEVER be in the same universe because of certain differences.



He did say that the MC landed in a different universe, or the marathon, so therefore he is saying that the 2 universes parallel each other.

  • 10.08.2009 4:46 PM PDT

What the blargh!?

very well thought out.it might be a possibility...

  • 10.08.2009 4:55 PM PDT

THERES AN ELITE IN MY TURRET!

but if the portal closed on in amber clad it doesn't mean that MC's side is in another universe it could just mean that he got put somewhere else in the halo universe since it was just cut in half.

  • 10.08.2009 5:13 PM PDT

It is not the tree that forsakes the flower, but it is the flower that forsakes the tree.

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i have a good idea. Why doesn't bungie explain to us what happened. Or better yet have an author write another halo book which explains to us what happened.

  • 10.08.2009 5:33 PM PDT

YES!!!! page 152

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  • 10.08.2009 5:55 PM PDT

I who walk alone in this world wrapped in the arms of the past not knowing what lies ahead of me. What am I? A soulless being to be beaten by the rage of those who hate me? Cutting my way past hopes and dreams. Sit in the window sill as I do every day and night resignations on my slate of who I am and what is left behind. Concealed in the words that chases my every thought. I who walk alone in this world…I am broken

Wow this is awsome and worth the read good job dude

  • 10.09.2009 2:22 PM PDT

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  • 10.09.2009 2:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: True Blue754
He is on Neverland Ranch. He took over the ownership after Michael Jackson died.


O Gosh

We can call MC then Wacko Johno.

  • 10.09.2009 2:42 PM PDT

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He is on Neverland Ranch. He took over the ownership after Michael Jackson died.

LMAO

  • 10.09.2009 2:46 PM PDT
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dude i actually understood this. nice job

  • 10.09.2009 3:18 PM PDT
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What if masterchief is the security guard but he do not uses hisarmor beacause of the damage??

  • 10.09.2009 3:22 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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they forrunners are humans it says so in the books just million years before mastechiefs time as far as we know there could have been inteligent life in another galaxy

  • 10.09.2009 3:29 PM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

LEMONSAMURI

does it tell u the sucurity guards name at all

  • 10.09.2009 3:29 PM PDT

well if you ever read Ghosts Of Onyx, then its quite obvious that hes headed for the Indoor planet that the other Spartans/others wound up on.

  • 10.09.2009 9:11 PM PDT
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i am not insulting you but what universe is mc in ours or another paralel universe that is completly different from our own

  • 10.10.2009 5:31 PM PDT
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the covenant can't activte the rings because of there religon but for all they cre they could pick up a rat an make i activate the rings but humans are the first none covant sentants they encoutered butyes humans are foreunners

  • 10.10.2009 5:38 PM PDT
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  • 10.10.2009 5:39 PM PDT

If you've ever told someone, "Haha, you suck!" think about it like this: you can press buttons more effeciently than they can! Whoop-dee-doo!

I'm ok with this theory, but one thing is really buggin me: IT'S NOT THEIR NEXT GAME! Their next game is Halo: Reach, now if you know this much about Halo and Marathon then you'd know that Halo: Reach could also be named Halo: Fall of Reach, just like the book. It's going to be a game about the fall of Reach.

  • 10.10.2009 5:55 PM PDT

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I'm ok with this theory, but one thing is really buggin me: IT'S NOT THEIR NEXT GAME! Their next game is Halo: Reach, now if you know this much about Halo and Marathon then you'd know that Halo: Reach could also be named Halo: Fall of Reach, just like the book. It's going to be a game about the fall of Reach.


Congratulations on figuring out the obvious.

  • 10.10.2009 6:06 PM PDT

maybe the chiefs just on a extensive cruise i mean if i were fighting aliens and flood for all those years i would be frigging stressed out.

  • 10.11.2009 3:41 PM PDT