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Posted by: Savoir Self
Posted by: Spuriusrex
Posted by: Savoir Self
...Its well pieced... It of course isn't what happened. Remember that Chief always had someone watching over him, guiding him and was always Lucky. Cortana seen it, and you find out in the level "Halo" if you played on Legendary you read all about the Forerunner watching over him and making sure he was in the right place at the right time. He survived impossible odds and brought down the greatest threat to the Universe.
Also, Marathon takes place on a Hollowed out Moon near Mars and Earth. There is no Nebula that close to Mars or Earth and if you look very close at the object its clearly a Forerunner Structure. Remember... Master Chief has been guided everywhere... Always in the correct place. He's being lead home... where he honestly belongs because he is Forerunner... He doesn't belong to the UNSC.
Halo, Master Chief, Cortana will never be implemented into an older Space Scenario created by Bungie. It would be a drag to both games and create even more Questions than the Special cut scene at the end of Halo 3 on Legendary.
These two games will never collide, they are their own respectively and always will remain that way.
I like what you said above about downgrading the MC and Halo universe to an "older space scenario" a lot. I agree it would be a drag for us loyal MC/Halo fans. I'd rather know MC as the MC alone and not the hero of another cause.
As for the thread creator, I dislike that you are basing this on the thermal image and not the planet we see in the actual cutscene as many have mentioned before. I do like that you have found an extensive amount of evidence to prove the Halo-Marathon Theory.
I do have the basic belief that the Master Chief and Cortana have been taken somewhere far away. I think that as the portal collapsed, possibly a Forerunner fail-safe activated, maybe transporting the half MC and Cortana were in to a forerunner homeworld. They're obviously not in the same system as the Ark as some newbies have carelessly tried to argue. When the ring shook apart in the midst of firing, the firing's range may have (must have) been reduced or stopped but the explosion from the destruction of the new Halo along with the Ark's destruction would have killed the MC. I mean the portal was very close to the Ark right? A premature firing or partial firing or even debris would have killed MC I firmly believe. MC has to have been transported somewhere else. I personally debate as to whether the Forerunners would have had a fail-safe for objects/ships within a collapsing portal or if the sheer magnitude of the Ark shaking apart with the ring, and the collapsing portal, propelled MC and Cortana into an alternate dimension or even universe. But the latter would be a serious stretch.
I'm glad to see someone else being logical. This theory is very impressive, but very unlikely. I sure hope that 343 steers away from this idea as a base for "Halo 4" in fact I much rather leave Halo where its being left off. From what I've studied with Halo 3, and the happenings I wouldn't be surprised that MC survived the destruction of the Ark and the first Halo ring. The portal was very close to the Ark, but so was that small ship you sailed away in during the last moments of "Halo: Combat Evolved." I strongly believe that the portal has no real "LIMBO" area where there is space that has to be traveled in between both points. Also, its possible that the half that was left behind after the portal closed shut the blast propelled the stern of the ship to another distant portion of the Galaxy. I think for the sake of the story, when Cortana's last words where "...Its been a pleasure serving with you John..." and the Monument with 117 scratched into it (which when I first played through I cried... It was a beautiful way to end it) you had this sense of closure. Even that was against what Bungie had planned for Master Chief though... so the story ends...with him returning to how we first met him. Back to Cryo sleep... Its where he will be and is intended to be. Remember that the special cut scene was a bonus for completing Legendary, so it's only more of a Tease or a Easter egg than a HINT as to what happens next.
Excellent point! I didn't once take into account the MC's escape from Installation 04, in Halo: Combat Evolved. The Longsword fighter he escaped from was in close proximity to the ring when it shook apart. The explosion simply caused some massive "turbulance" for lack of a better word, and the Chief was fine. So where I argued the MC's certain death, had he remained in the Ark's galactic system, isn't completely legitimate. I personally am leaning towards the idea that a partial firing did not occur at the end of Halo 3. I believe that Installation 04's destabilization and thus destruction ultimately haulted the firing. So...I haven't been open to thiss but the MC could be in the same system (at least) as the Ark. Perhaps the magnitude of the destruction sent his half of the frigate hurling into the abyss of space. The nebula at the end wasn't present anywhere in cutscenes or gameplay in Halo 3. He is very far from the Ark's former location without a doubt. We cannot assume anything with the portal though. I mean honestly, sure we saw the cutscenes, but how much time TRULY elapsed between the frigate's entry on Earth, and its exit into the Ark's system. It did seem fast, almost like a teleporter. Maybe this was on purpose, maybe even Bungie didn't consider the significance of this small yet crucial detail during the game's cutscenes' development, or maybe the time elapsed really holds no significance because Halo 4's future existance is entirely fictional. Nevertheless, for all of us fans, the make-up of that portal, how it functions, etc, would undoubtedly answer many questions.
My personal opinion is in accordance with Savoir Self to an extent. I think the legendary ending did hold more significance than an easter egg. I think it truly offerred total closure for us worried "mothers" of Master Chief. We know our "baby" has possibly reached some sort of sentient life by seeing the planet and is "gonna be ok" thankfully. We know our hero isn't destined to wander space for an eternity, never to be found, or at least we've been provided with quite a sizeable amount of hope. Ending with the idea that "yes, MC makes it to a sentient planet! He will be woken soon! He will find his way home (maybe)! He will live!" is an excellent way to put an end to the story of humanity's hero.
[Edited on 07.11.2010 7:48 PM PDT]