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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Beller
We may never know...our are we not meant to know...who knows?


Frankie pretty much outright confirmed that 343 Industries is working on a Halo 4.

  • 12.14.2010 8:36 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief? An Extensive Scientific Theory.

This thread reminds me of the photos that have "proof" of aliens. Just sayin lol.

[Edited on 12.14.2010 12:23 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2010 12:21 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: sethkillu2
This thread reminds me of the photos that have "proof" of aliens. Just sayin lol.


You mean that people like to believe it's true, but at the end of the day it's utter bollocks?

  • 12.15.2010 8:39 AM PDT
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what are you saying you -blam!-

[Edited on 12.17.2010 8:09 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2010 8:07 PM PDT

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I still say that cheif could have gone back in time, because he could have caused the alliance to form in the first place
and when you think about it, it seemed like he kind of expected the replacement halo ring to appear. When the Arbiter said "A replacement, for the ring you destroyed." Chief replies "When did you know." like he already knew, and he just wasn't sure how or when the arbiter had found out.

for reference, here's a link to the cutscene on youtube-
replacement halo cutscene

  • 12.24.2010 8:48 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Nice....

  • 12.24.2010 8:50 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief? An Extensive Scientific Theory.

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: D4RK45S45S1N
I still say that cheif could have gone back in time, because he could have caused the alliance to form in the first place
and when you think about it, it seemed like he kind of expected the replacement halo ring to appear. When the Arbiter said "A replacement, for the ring you destroyed." Chief replies "When did you know." like he already knew, and he just wasn't sure how or when the arbiter had found out.

for reference, here's a link to the cutscene on youtube-
replacement halo cutscene


Except he didn't go back in time, it's a plot device bungie hates and wouldn't use - given that 343 Industries is led by a former-Bungie employee (Frankie, the godfather of Halo canon), he'd not use it either.

The final Terminal makes it pretty clear that John has been sent to the Forerunners by Mendicant Bias.

  • 12.24.2010 9:45 AM PDT

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look at it this way, before the forerunners activated the halo rings, they took DNA samples from every species and stored them away so that the universe could be repopulated. they did not, however take actual live beings and store them,
so if not time travel, then how is cheif both forerunner and alive.

also, here is the full text from the final terminal including the legendary extra text.--

//FRAGMENT 7/7 [RECORDED VERBATIM
AND INTERPRETED POST-CATACLYSM]

D: Proud? When I have failed you
utterly, how can I feel anything
but sorrow?

Bias has come undone. He crossed
the line this morning - brought the
abomination with him - and destroyed
your waiting rescue party.

It's over. We're activating the
[destructive arrayed matrix],
our shameful last resort.
I can picture you in your garden,
surveying all you have created -
surveying all you have preserved.
And I curse the circumstance that
keeps my finger on the trigger.

D: Of all the fates to befall us,
this is the cruelest of all.
My inaction and hesitation and
foolishness kept me here, on the
wrong side of the line. And [300
years? of our society's failure
and miscalculation makes me your
executioner.
It's too much to bear.

// ERROR - NO CARRIER OR RECEIPT
AVAILABLE {DEAD END TRANSMISSION}
//INFORMATION DESTROYED IN TRANSIT
D: Mendicant Bias is trying to
prevent us from firing the Array.
He speeds back to the Ark, but he
won't succeed. Offensive Bias will
stop him, and I will burn this
stinking menace in your name.

And then?

I will begin our Great Journey
without you, carrying this bitter
record. Those who came after will
know what we bought with this [false
transcendence] - what you bought,
and the price you paid.
// FRAGMENT ENDS
// ALL RECORDS CEASE
archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr]
archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc]
archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc]
archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR]
> CONN.
> .
> .
> NO. THERE IS MORE.
> BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY.
> .
> .
> NOT YET.
> .
> .
X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/...
X.XX.713> refl
--------------------

You don't know the contortions I had
to go through to follow you here,
Reclaimer. I know what you're here
for. What position do I take? Will I
follow one betrayal with another?
You're going to say I'm making a
habit of turning on my masters.

But the one that destroyed me long
ago, in the upper atmosphere of a
world far distant from here, was an
implement far cruder than I.
My weakness was capacity -
unintentional though it was! -
to choose the Flood. A mistake my
makers would not soon forgive.

But I want something far different
from you, Reclaimer.

Atonement.
And so here at the end of my life,
I do once again betray a former
master. The path ahead is fraught
with peril. But I will do all I can
to keep it stable - keep you safe.
I'm not so foolish to think this
will absolve me of my sins. One life
hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know
that I have changed.

And you shall be my example.

  • 12.24.2010 11:21 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

so if not time travel, then how is cheif both forerunner and alive.

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here.

The Forerunners didn't die when Halo was activated, many were killed but there were those who managed to make it into the Shield Worlds. Once the Flood lay dormant, they left the Shield Worlds, reseeded the lives of the races they'd catalogued, passed the Mantle down to humanity and then left the galaxy in self-imposed exile.

  • 12.25.2010 4:10 AM PDT

Oh my god.

Holy hell you've just opened my mind up.

  • 12.25.2010 8:31 AM PDT

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but if they all left the galaxy then why is cheif still there and how did he become a spartan.

  • 12.25.2010 10:41 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: D4RK45S45S1N
but if they all left the galaxy then why is cheif still there and how did he become a spartan.


John is not a Forerunner...

  • 12.25.2010 11:19 AM PDT

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HA, thats funny. remember the fight between John and spark

343-> "You are the child of my creators, inheritor of all they left behind, You are forerunner, but this ring is mine."

  • 12.25.2010 11:30 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Remember the fact that he was rampant?

Humans inherited the Mantle from the Forerunners, that makes humanity Reclaimers. Since the religion of the Mantle says that the Forerunners recieved the Mantle from the Precursors, Spark identifies Reclaimers and Forerunners to be the same thing.

I had a 6 page debate about this the other day, please don't let this drag on. John is not a Forerunner, end of.

  • 12.25.2010 11:46 AM PDT

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So why has spark also called some of the covenant Reclaimers in the past, also why is that the only time spark ever called MC a Forerunner. plus, wouldn't the term reclaimer mean someone reclaiming something, as in claiming it again after having lost it rather than an object being claimed by just any person of any species after being lost by a specific one.

  • 12.29.2010 10:39 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Spark has never called a member of the Covenant a Reclaimer, he refers to them as Meddlers.

Reclaimer in Halo refers to a race that have recieved the Mantle, the Precursors gave the Forerunners the Mantle (which made the Forerunners Reclaimers) and they gave it to humanity before they fled the galaxy (making us Reclaimers).

I might also point out that humans and Forerunners are 2 completely different races, when the Librarian was on Earth and cataloguing them don't you think she'd identify them to be the same? No, she identifies them as human with 3 subspecies:
- Hom0 sapien
- Neanderthalian
- A third, unnamed supspecies

Given that Cryptum also refers to humanity as a race that was once technologically advanced and that they rose up to fight the Forerunners, we can see even more evidence that humanity is not Forerunner or even related to them.

It's the word of a rampant Monitor against the Terminals from the POV of actual Forerunners and Cryptum.

  • 12.30.2010 5:30 AM PDT

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Just because humanity went to war with the foreruners does not mean that we are not related to them, what about all the wars humanity fought with itself? What about the Civil war or either of the World wars? Even with that aside, after war with us, why would the forerunner have given us the mantle and completely exiled themselves from the galaxy

  • 12.31.2010 5:53 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Because the Human-Forerunner war was 60,000 years before the Flood even showed up. The Librarian saw us as special, so she made sure we got the Mantle to continue their legacy, the Forerunner were disgusted by humanity before and hated us - why would we be related to them?

The Forerunners exiled themselves from the galaxy because they failed to uphold the Mantle and do their duty to keep everyone safe. They failed. They passed their hurculean task to humanity to rebuild their shattered empire.

Is it so difficult to accept the evidence that humans and Forerunners are not the same thing?

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  • 01.02.2011 7:43 PM PDT

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so what happend to the precursers that caused them to pass the mantle to the forerunners?

on an unrelated note, from the end of reach they make it seem as though cortana is forerunner so,correct me if i'm wrong here but, wouldnt that mean that she should have aleready known the things in halo's databases, rather than being suprised at how much information was there, since halo went untouched and unfound for so long there shouldnt have been any new additions.

  • 01.03.2011 1:35 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: D4RK45S45S1N
so what happend to the precursers that caused them to pass the mantle to the forerunners?


Unknown. There is very limited info on the Precursors.

on an unrelated note, from the end of reach they make it seem as though cortana is forerunner so,correct me if i'm wrong here but, wouldnt that mean that she should have aleready known the things in halo's databases, rather than being suprised at how much information was there, since halo went untouched and unfound for so long there shouldnt have been any new additions.

No, Cortana was created by Halsey in 2549. The Cortana we see in Reach is a fragmented clone that the original Cortana (stationed on the Autumn) created to help Halsey analyse the info at the Latchkey Artefact, Six's mission was to give the clone to Keyes so the 2 could be put back together.

  • 01.03.2011 2:35 PM PDT
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if you watch halo legend's more to the point oregins 1 he's over the forruner home world last video on legendari after the cridets and sorry about the spilling

  • 01.04.2011 6:24 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: eggos
if you watch halo legend's more to the point oregins 1 he's over the forruner home world last video on legendari after the cridets and sorry about the spilling


Er... In Origins they're still floating in space, the Forerunner homeworld isn't shown in Origins, G617-g1 is.

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  • 01.05.2011 8:24 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Weapon of mass construction.

Masterchief went to KFC, didnt you know?

  • 01.05.2011 9:12 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world is Master Chief? An Extensive Scientific Theory.

Absent of flooding.

Posted by: D4RK45S45S1N
I still say that cheif could have gone back in time, because he could have caused the alliance to form in the first place
and when you think about it, it seemed like he kind of expected the replacement halo ring to appear. When the Arbiter said "A replacement, for the ring you destroyed." Chief replies "When did you know." like he already knew, and he just wasn't sure how or when the arbiter had found out.

for reference, here's a link to the cutscene on youtube-
replacement halo cutscene

nope pretty sure he is talking to 343 guilty spark. he assumes he knew about the reconstruction of installation 04 for some time.

  • 01.05.2011 9:29 AM PDT