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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Provehito in Altum

BADAH!!! GAH! Thats completely obvious! Read my theory thing ABOVE!!! and My thread on the thing!! (thread is called "the fight is finished, now to begin it")

  • 11.02.2007 3:04 PM PDT
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NICE THEORY. IF THIS IS TRUE WE ARE IN FOR SOME NICE SURPRISES FROM BUNGIE.

  • 11.02.2007 5:40 PM PDT
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Freak.

  • 11.02.2007 5:42 PM PDT
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Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of MARS.

Funny how Mars doesn't bold for me... Why is it when I quote you there is the [b] symbols?

Anyway good theory, although I haven't played any of the Marathon games, it sounds plausible.

[Edited on 11.02.2007 6:02 PM PDT]

  • 11.02.2007 6:00 PM PDT
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good work

  • 11.02.2007 6:02 PM PDT
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when did pure speculation become proof?

  • 11.02.2007 6:07 PM PDT

Provehito in Altum

When the speculation is all you have, and anyway, I've already discredited his speculation. All the theory proves ONCE AGAIN is that something happens on Mars...

On another note, It seems that no one wants to read long posts, which is why my shpeil on the last page was ignored...that makes me sad :(

  • 11.03.2007 3:39 PM PDT

Not a bad theory, and I supprot the Marathon idea though I've never played it.

  • 11.03.2007 3:43 PM PDT

hurray for internet hugs!!!!!

go to the market place get marothon durandal go to options under control sceam it says mark IV then in survival you will find the plasma pistol and the spink sentinals and flood like thingis so yes there is a connection so quite lying there in dinile shut get behind me and accept it nobelievers

  • 11.03.2007 3:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.


nice try, you should read.

  • 11.03.2007 4:01 PM PDT

A witty signature.

How many times is Bungie going to have to say "The Marathon and Halo universes are separate (yet similar) universes"? Furthermore, I found a few problems with your theory. First, you have no proof that the planet in the final cutscene is Mars; it just looks similar. There's literally trillions upon trillions of planets in the universe, and billions within the milky way galaxy. Similar does not equal exactly the same, and therefor, you can not irrefutably claim that the final cutscene planet is Mars. Second problem I have is that you instantly assume that if the slipspace portal closed, one side of the portal would be sent into another dimension. There is absolutely zero evidence for that and to base your entire theory upon that fact is, well... kinda ridiculous. Good effort, but to be honest, I think you're making a couple of huge leaps of faith that discredit the theory.

  • 11.03.2007 4:06 PM PDT
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kudos for providing proof (unlike the other billion halo 3 ending theories). I'm still not 100% sold on the "Marathon" theory (any of them, since I'm sure there's more than one). People have shown that the planet at the end of halo 3 actually has forerunner markings on it, which wouldn't make sense if this were marathon.

  • 11.03.2007 4:07 PM PDT

Lets Boogie

The Marathon theory like this guy said can be right but it can be wrong. But i will say again. Good job on the theory. I think Halo is in a different universe then Halo but there is still a possbility that there is a connection between Marathon and Halo (like MC going to the Marathon universe). But i cant say if that is 100% true.

[Edited on 11.04.2007 9:09 PM PST]

  • 11.04.2007 9:07 PM PDT

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This topic deserves a FREE BUMP

  • 11.05.2007 11:25 PM PDT
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Remember Kids! He knows this cause he works for Bungie! [/Phail Boat].

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Posted by: phearmaker
Also, the people who post the stupid " Zomg there cant be a marathon universe related to the halo one because theres a marathon symbol on 343GS.
Ok, So basically you are saying that you cant have 1 of the same thing in two different universes?
So if there are humans in the marathon universe, there cant be humans in the halo universe?
Busted.


And to all the morons who are posting
ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.


READ THE DAMNED POST YOU BLATANT RETARDS.


THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON * I.O.W a different universe *.

Another strange thing, The word MARS at the near bottom of this post was put in bold. I never put that word in bold, Seems strange to me.




As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.








dood i believe everything u said and people need to stop saying Bungie is not going to make another halo....come on people.....Bungie wants u to think that there is no other halo game to be made in the future...they want to make sum money by having people buy halo 3 for now and years to come until 1 year or less they are going to announce there is going to be a Halo 4 or sum other title...just like they did wen Halo 2 came out....so quit saying " Cuz Bungie says so"......they want u to think that there isnt another halo....think about it...why would Bungie end a story wen the arbiter is in one universe and the chief and cortana in another universe....COME ON!!! No video game company would ever stop making or creating or continuing another story if the stories or games are making alot of MULA!!!

  • 11.05.2007 11:47 PM PDT

Lets Boogie

I say Bungie's next game should be called HALOTHON since it will connect Halo with Marathon (lol).

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  • 11.06.2007 12:07 AM PDT

give me cake !!!!..no....give me pie...

dude ....get a life...
master chief is not in mars ...his in snickers....

  • 11.06.2007 12:12 AM PDT

Lets Boogie

Posted by: SiLeS
dude ....get a life...
master chief is not in mars ...his in snickers....


You have no proof. At least the guys who started this topic has some proof.

  • 11.06.2007 12:14 AM PDT
Subject: Bungie games connections

I will just throw this out there. Anyone interested in the fascinating writings of Jason Jones, Greg Kirkpatrick, and the guys that began bungie back in the early nineties should really invest a little bit of their time here: http://marathon.bungie.org/story/.

I think that there is potential for story convergence between Marathon and Halo, for sure. In fact I'm willing to bet on it. There's an early interview with one of the guys, you can find it on the above address (scroll to the bottom on the left frame, click on some of the Halo links... you'll also find the Cortana letters very interesting), I forget which one states this but basically he postulates that there is connection between ALL the Bungie games... all the way back starting with Pathways Into Darkness, which is about a squad of elite troops going into a pyramid in the Yucatan in order to set off a nuke because in 8 days a sleeping creature of chaos that crash landed several millennia beforehand is about to wake up. According to that story, an extremely advanced alien race came and visited with the U.S. government and warned them of this creature. It has been later proved that the alien race was the Jjaro, which are found in the Marathon story, which came after PID. So it is very "Bungie-like" to introduce stuff in one game, only to reference it and include it in the next game. At this point, with all the games they've released so far, I assure you that there are connections throughout all of them. He came right out and said "Remember the Great Devoid in Myth? How did that get there?".

My opinion is this: Jason Jones and Co. have been writing this stuff since the very beginning of Bungie. Sure it might be tweaked here and there for the sake of game play, continuity (The Lost Network, anyone?) and what not, but generally speaking, I would not be surprised at all if all of the Bungie games linked into one consistent story, or arc, or campaign, or world, or whatever. On numerous occasions, Jason has mentioned that these are the kinds of games he's always wanted to make: games that are rich in story and depth, not just mindless shooters. He won't force you, you can totally play any Bungie game without caring about the story, but as you can see, you can dig and get stuff, and keep digging and get more stuff. Hell, they bury stuff in the actual code of the game. Anyone that has played Marathon would know that even the "garbage terms" were packed with meaning, but you had to be a programmer and pretty clever in order to decipher the stuff.

Some people ask about the Flood, which seems missing in the Marathon story... it's my opinion that the W'rkncacnter are the Flood, which are described in Marathon terminals and in PID. I think it's very possible that the Jjaro are the Forerunners.

What we see at the end of Legendary is not the Marathon ship, absolutely not. In the game's code, the movie is called Forerunner_Planet. Could that still be Mars, pre-Marathon launch? It could be... Mars was heavily colonized at the time, and I believe going through a rebellion that was successful but short-lived, with Deimos being carved out from within during the making of the Marathon colony ship. The rebels did not take over the Marathon, but they did leave weapons on board... why? Were they also responsible for you being on there, along with 9 other battleroids? Also, the science officer Bernard Strauss was believed to be a part of the secret organization, and also could control Durandal during his first phase in rampancy. Was Bernard responsible for the 10 battleroids on board, and if so, why? And when Marathon arrived at Tau Ceti, why are 9 of the battleroids assimilated into the colony culture, but you're left up in the ship? It's already understood that Durandal called the Pfhor to attack, but why?

Personally I think it's all the same deal, no need for time travel and such, maybe some slip space action going on, but I don't believe that Marathon and Halo are dual realities... I think they are one and the same. It's very possible that the 10th battleroid in Marathon (who has seen "a thousand deaths") is MC from Halo. Sure, it might have slipped and been said by mistake, with Bungie covering it up afterwards, but I think that only adds to the mystery.

All the cynics out there who don't think there are connections, trust me we aren't insane... these guys truly write these games at these levels. They want the fan community to figure all this stuff out, so they spend years doing their homework on anything they can use, from astronomical research to religious symbolism, and not arbitrarily either. They are trying to build a rich interactive experience that goes beyond, way way beyond, the casual game play experience.

  • 11.10.2007 5:49 PM PDT

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that is really well thought out and you also have proof too..well done . To orginal poster

  • 11.10.2007 5:55 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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If this isn't what Bungie had in mind, they definatley should us this idea!

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.




I really wish that these nubs would atleast give a valid reason for saying ppl are wrong. They jsut say "your wrong" withour any proof ar ANYTHING.

Friggen dumbArses

Atleast give proof





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  • 11.10.2007 6:06 PM PDT

Believe

niiice, but seriously, go outside. its a game, they said "Halo" was a trilogy, and the third game, Halo 3, just came out. Stop.

  • 11.10.2007 6:11 PM PDT