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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Posted by: PriestOfSin
ZOMFG! I'M BLIND!!!

(blinding flash of the obvious)


So why didn't you post it before me if it were so obvious.

I don't see a post that you made with proof supporting the same exact theory.

In other words, Get out mah thradz.

  • 11.14.2007 7:59 PM PDT
Subject: well..
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this thread is probably the most debatable one I have ever seen so i would like to continue this one until the answer is finally given!

  • 11.14.2007 8:30 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

He's in 3 video games?

  • 11.14.2007 8:30 PM PDT
Subject: As far as i can tell..
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MC is in the 3 halo games of course... and it seems bungie might be makin it so that he is also in the 3 Marathon games as well... know way to know for sure but they can certainly do that. they could have it all explained in another game or even in a remake of marathon... what needs to be done though is someone from bungie needs to come clear with the legendary ending of halo 3!

[Edited on 11.14.2007 8:35 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2007 8:35 PM PDT
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GREAT theory.............

  • 11.14.2007 8:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: I JackTheRippAI
Good theory but can I question something....

In the final cut scene how do we know that is the ship master chief is in? personally i thought the two ships didnt look a like at all......
Just incase you missed it....(yes I quoted myself) I just want this questioned answered please.

  • 11.14.2007 8:56 PM PDT
Subject: As far as i can tell..
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freaking amazing theory ad all, and to back it up if you have played the marathon games read this

ok, cortana is reaching her 7th year which has been said before
the first ai in marathon reminded me of cortana as i played on aleph one
the first ai(i dont remember if the second one killed her or she died) if she did die, that would prove that she IS cortana
with all this in mind, i leave you

so think about this information(i thought the halo universe was said by bungie to be just reminiscent of marathon, am i mistaken?) and i have taken a new look at halo-marathon connections and i want to know more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lukems, give anyone with steaktacular a recon armor or steak dinner, but please dont let us starve...
(not begging, just giving an idea)

is this post longwinded?

  • 11.14.2007 9:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: I JackTheRippAI
Posted by: I JackTheRippAI
Good theory but can I question something....

In the final cut scene how do we know that is the ship master chief is in? personally i thought the two ships didnt look a like at all......
Just incase you missed it....(yes I quoted myself) I just want this questioned answered please.


Please be more clear. The "ship" Master Chief is in during the Legendary ending is the tail end of ship he escaped The Ark with, as it was torn in half somehow. It's the same hunk of junk he was in in the normal after-credits ending.

[Edited on 11.14.2007 9:04 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2007 9:04 PM PDT

I'm sticking with the theory that it's Coruscant.

  • 11.14.2007 9:37 PM PDT
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yeah its definitly the same half of the ship and to be honest i think that after alot of lookin up and replayin some games Bungie seems to be goin towards a remake of Marathon using halo as a pre based game set of the Marathon trilogy... it is pretty evident. A lot fo clues are to look at and they have all been mentioned here... the theory i came up with in a previous post was all i could muster from what was said and seems to be the most reasonable conculsion thus far. although i never actually came up with the idea myself i have to thank all who posted on this thread and gave their ideas all i did was put it all together... And i did find out that Marathon was based 245 years after the halo games. that is indeed a major connection. my idea is think about what everyone said and look at all the theories and decide for urself, for now there is no telling who is right or who is wrong.

  • 11.14.2007 10:05 PM PDT

Lets Boogie

Posted by: Screech88
yeah its definitly the same half of the ship and to be honest i think that after alot of lookin up and replayin some games Bungie seems to be goin towards a remake of Marathon using halo as a pre based game set of the Marathon trilogy... it is pretty evident. A lot fo clues are to look at and they have all been mentioned here... the theory i came up with in a previous post was all i could muster from what was said and seems to be the most reasonable conculsion thus far. although i never actually came up with the idea myself i have to thank all who posted on this thread and gave their ideas all i did was put it all together... And i did find out that Marathon was based 245 years after the halo games. that is indeed a major connection. my idea is think about what everyone said and look at all the theories and decide for urself, for now there is no telling who is right or who is wrong.


You are saying that Marathon TAKES PLACE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS HALO. That is not true. There are to many flaws for that to happen. But they can be in PARALEL UNIVERSES (if you dont know what im talking about look up multiverse on the wiki). The UNIVERSES are very similar but they are still different. So there can still be connections like mabye MC got sent to the Marathon Universe. Also in Marathon Infinity the Jjaro had technology which can send someone to other UNIVERSES. So mabye the Jjaro using this technoloy went to the Halo Universe and then called themselves the FORERUNNERS.

  • 11.14.2007 11:49 PM PDT
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You are saying that Marathon TAKES PLACE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS HALO. That is not true. There are to many flaws for that to happen. But they can be in PARALEL UNIVERSES (if you dont know what im talking about look up multiverse on the wiki). The UNIVERSES are very similar but they are still different. So there can still be connections like mabye MC got sent to the Marathon Universe. Also in Marathon Infinity the Jjaro had technology which can send someone to other UNIVERSES. So mabye the Jjaro using this technoloy went to the Halo Universe and then called themselves the FORERUNNERS.


if you were smart you would know that Wikipedia doesn't give out a lot of accurate information, so what you're saying isn't valid. but there's also my brother's theory which would explain a lot of things within halo itself. How would MC be sent to the Marathon Universe, there would be no point for him to be. And either way, you trying to disprove my brothers theory only proved that it could be infact real.

  • 11.15.2007 9:37 AM PDT
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Nice job.

  • 11.15.2007 9:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: haloplayer2kill
You are saying that Marathon TAKES PLACE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS HALO. That is not true. There are to many flaws for that to happen. But they can be in PARALEL UNIVERSES (if you dont know what im talking about look up multiverse on the wiki). The UNIVERSES are very similar but they are still different. So there can still be connections like mabye MC got sent to the Marathon Universe. Also in Marathon Infinity the Jjaro had technology which can send someone to other UNIVERSES. So mabye the Jjaro using this technoloy went to the Halo Universe and then called themselves the FORERUNNERS.


I think you are wrong there is no way there would be a multiverse. Think about this... Bungie stated that Marathon takes place in the future after the Halo. Now if they were talkin about bein in a different universe then they shouldn't have mentioned Halo at all considering they are two seprate universes. I don't think they would make things complicated with the whole mutliverse idea anyway. Besides reread what a lot of ppl say it all adds up to what i said. there are to much similarities between the games and it makes sense that Bungie would do this.

  • 11.15.2007 9:43 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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That makes sense
Posted by: phearmaker
Also, the people who post the stupid " Zomg there cant be a marathon universe related to the halo one because theres a marathon symbol on 343GS.
Ok, So basically you are saying that you cant have 1 of the same thing in two different universes?
So if there are humans in the marathon universe, there cant be humans in the halo universe?
Busted.


And to all the morons who are posting
ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.


READ THE DAMNED POST YOU BLATANT RETARDS.


THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON * I.O.W a different universe *.

Another strange thing, The word MARS at the near bottom of this post was put in bold. I never put that word in bold, Seems strange to me.




As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.





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who cares where he is, its a fictional video game, when bungie gets ready to tell us where he is and give us more aliens to splatter they will do so! and i will be first in line to spill some virtual alien blood!

  • 11.15.2007 9:54 AM PDT
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Do you know how deep this game's story goes?
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who cares where he is, its a fictional video game, when bungie gets ready to tell us where he is and give us more aliens to splatter they will do so! and i will be first in line to spill some virtual alien blood!

  • 11.15.2007 10:12 AM PDT
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well apperantly a lot of ppl care considerin the amount of posts in the thread...

  • 11.15.2007 10:22 AM PDT
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Heres another thing about the theory....
Since he is in cryostasis, it could be possible that the legendary ending doesnt take place after the normal ending. It could be 200 years in the future.,

  • 11.15.2007 10:43 AM PDT

He had looked into deaths gaze multiple times, but each time he had stared it down until it turned away.

just a question, why would you all go into serious depth just to find out where a fictitious (albeit fricking cool) character is? the Master Chief will end up wherever Bungie says he is in whatever timeframe they deem necessary. it might have something to do with marathon, it might still be in the halo universe or it might be in some universe that they come up with and yet again surprise us with their vast intelligence and creativity. just keep in mind that its just a video game. you really dont need to go on and on and on about where you think he is because unless you work for Bungie, your "theories" do nothing but sit around and cause arguments against fellow halo players and create animosity towards bungie when they reveal wherever they are going with this. from my perspective, all or your theorizing and junk seems like a major waste of time. time that you could be doing something actually productive.

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It's something for us all to do with our sad little lives...

Then again... You can't say anything as you seem to be searching bungie.net looking at topics and eventually finding this one, and with your lengthy message it looks as if you have reading all the other posts so tell me- If what me and you are doing isn't constructive then what is it? Cos obviously you think your not wasting your time otherwise you wouldn't have put your post there in the first place...
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  • 11.15.2007 2:53 PM PDT
Subject: I find that hard to believe

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Posted by: Screech88
Posted by: haloplayer2kill
You are saying that Marathon TAKES PLACE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS HALO. That is not true. There are to many flaws for that to happen. But they can be in PARALEL UNIVERSES (if you dont know what im talking about look up multiverse on the wiki). The UNIVERSES are very similar but they are still different. So there can still be connections like mabye MC got sent to the Marathon Universe. Also in Marathon Infinity the Jjaro had technology which can send someone to other UNIVERSES. So mabye the Jjaro using this technoloy went to the Halo Universe and then called themselves the FORERUNNERS.


I think you are wrong there is no way there would be a multiverse. Think about this... Bungie stated that Marathon takes place in the future after the Halo. Now if they were talkin about bein in a different universe then they shouldn't have mentioned Halo at all considering they are two seprate universes. I don't think they would make things complicated with the whole mutliverse idea anyway. Besides reread what a lot of ppl say it all adds up to what i said. there are to much similarities between the games and it makes sense that Bungie would do this.


Actually YOU ARE WRONG. Bungie NEVER SAID Marathon takes place after Halo in the same universe. They said they are not related at all and take place in seperate universes (now i belive they are in seperate universes but are still connected). Go look it up if you dont belive me.

  • 11.15.2007 3:02 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

You will bow down, one and all, eventually.

Ive known since the beginning of the end of the campaign of Halo 3 that these were related. I always had a feeling That Halo and Marathon had tie ins. And if you remember certain things, The zombies looked like flood e.t.c. there were too many similarities for them not to be the same thing, this straightens everything out.

  • 11.15.2007 3:08 PM PDT
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Hmmm, basically as we all agree, MC's story ain't over yet and I've never played the Marathon games so from my point of view and from what I've read there are a number of possible theories but I believe that the MC has maybe gone to the Marathon universe (He may have just gone to a completely new universe and the people who create the halo trilogy have based this new universe on the designs of Marathons universe) now I believe in the next part of his story he is going to find answers like who are the forerunners? and answers on the Flood etc etc

I think there's too much that hasn't been explained and basically Halo 3 cannot finish the Halo story therefore there will be another game... We just need to wait 3 years =D

  • 11.15.2007 3:15 PM PDT
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Just finished reading all 28 pages and after all that has been stated I cant let this thread die.

[Edited on 11.15.2007 5:10 PM PST]

  • 11.15.2007 5:10 PM PDT