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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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If you look at the center of the Ark when you are escaping it you see a world in the center. If the sphere on Onyx was basically the size of basketball and inside was larger than earth then the huge dyson sphere that was the size of earth would be as big as a universe inside? Maybe the forerunner are inside. The title "reclaimer" is used alot, what exactly is being "reclaimed" other than the universe?

  • 11.15.2007 9:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: VSGTS14
i changed what i said to network, that's what i meant to say.
MC is outside the network which can *possibly* mean he's elsewhere as you all say.
i'm just throwing -blam!- out there lol.


OK that makes a lot more sense. I was about to walk over and dropkick you inthe teeth for that lol.

  • 11.15.2007 9:33 PM PDT
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bwahahhahhaha well i have no idea wtf you guys are talking about.

  • 11.15.2007 9:38 PM PDT

In order to be old and wise, you must first be old and stupid, so make sure to be reqally stupid to you can be really wise.

all these ideas are good but maybe he is just floating out in space in the middle of nowhere and no one can ind him... he's kinda like the titanic in that point of view.(not to disapprove any of our theorys, mind you.)

  • 11.15.2007 9:39 PM PDT

In order to be old and wise, you must first be old and stupid, so make sure to be reqally stupid to you can be really wise.

Posted by: VSGTS14
bwahahhahhaha well i have no idea wtf you guys are talking about.

You must be from florida...

  • 11.15.2007 9:40 PM PDT
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LOL um no

  • 11.15.2007 9:43 PM PDT
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Maybe the Flood are just a biological weapon of a greater enemy still...

  • 11.15.2007 9:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: MillionsEdge
If you look at the center of the Ark when you are escaping it you see a world in the center. If the sphere on Onyx was basically the size of basketball and inside was larger than earth then the huge dyson sphere that was the size of earth would be as big as a universe inside? Maybe the forerunner are inside. The title "reclaimer" is used alot, what exactly is being "reclaimed" other than the universe?


Thats the first time i think that this theory has been brought up and after reading it got me thinking about it. If it is like Onyx then the core is made up of Sentinels. After thinking that far I remembered back to Halo 2. On Delta Halo during the Arbiter mission when you first land on the Halo there are little Sentinels(dont know a name for them) that are repairing the Halo. So if the structure in the center of the Ark was like Onyx and it was made up of Sentinels then that would explain how the Ark created a new Halo to replace the one destroyed in Halo 1.

Anybody have any thoughts or anything to add to this theory?

  • 11.15.2007 9:43 PM PDT

Lets Boogie

Posted by: MillionsEdge
Maybe the Flood are just a biological weapon of a greater enemy still...


O here is another theory about how the Flood were created.

In the Marathon Series there is a creature called a W'rknacnter. In PiD (which is set in the Marathon Universe) the player has to stop a dreaming God from awakening (many people have come to the conclusion that the dreaming God is a W'rknacnter). Now in PiD when the Dreaming God dreamed its dreams became a REALITY. So the monsters you fight in PiD are the creation of the God's dream. So if the Dreaming God is a W'rknacnter then it is possable a W'rknacnter somehow got into the Halo Universe and dreamed which created the Flood (this is before the forerunners encountered them). The W'rknacnter can create Chaotic creatures and the Flood seem very Chaotic. This is just a theory so dont flame me please.

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  • 11.15.2007 9:49 PM PDT
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In Ghosts of Onyx, it explains that sentinels are like forerunner tinker toys used for building blocks, maybe everything Forerunner is made of Sentinels. Another thought.... Humans are forerunners, Contact Harvest tells us that, so humans used to number in the billions throughout the galaxy. Some humans must have made it to a shield world to reproduce. Where did humans come from? Earth... The Librarian says that he sits atop a mountain and watches all he has done, H3 ending shows a mountain in Africa, the cradle of civilization in the end credits. What if Earth is a shield world and made of Sentinels too?!? If it wasnt, who spread the races out over the galaxy after the flood destroyed it thus getting humans to Earth?

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  • 11.15.2007 9:50 PM PDT
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first of all, how the hell does the ark control how the halo is repaired?

  • 11.15.2007 9:54 PM PDT
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Maybe the Ark is the Halo production facility? They had to be made somehow

  • 11.15.2007 9:56 PM PDT
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well that's what im saying...wtf controls the ark...and what is building the halos, are they sentinals?

  • 11.15.2007 10:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: MillionsEdge
Maybe the Ark is the Halo production facility? They had to be made somehow


Well seeing how it is called Installation 00, im guessing that it was the first to be built and then it constructed the Halo rings and spread them across our galaxy to maximize their effective firing radius.

  • 11.15.2007 10:03 PM PDT
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Yes, i think the sentinels are either building or becoming the halo ring

  • 11.15.2007 10:09 PM PDT
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One of the big problems is that Contact Harvest tells us that we are Forerunner but the terminals in Halo 3 lean more towards we more like the adopted children of the Forerunners. Which one is true? If we find that out then we can start putting some theories to rest and be left with the one that is more likely correct. I believe that we are descendents of the Forerunners. I just read another thread dealing with if we are Forerunner. The OP quoted a lot of things from the terminals and Contact Harvest. After reading that thread i believe even more that we are the direct descendents of the Forerunner and that Mendicant Bias will play a big role in anything that follows.

  • 11.15.2007 10:11 PM PDT
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either way, what is the next step? Im thinking the game will take an unexpected twist

  • 11.15.2007 10:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: haloplayer2kill
Posted by: MillionsEdge
Maybe the Flood are just a biological weapon of a greater enemy still...


O here is another theory about how the Flood were created.

In the Marathon Series there is a creature called a W'rknacnter. In PiD (which is set in the Marathon Universe) the player has to stop a dreaming God from awakening (many people have come to the conclusion that the dreaming God is a W'rknacnter). Now in PiD when the Dreaming God dreamed its dreams became a REALITY. So the monsters you fight in PiD are the creation of the God's dream. So if the Dreaming God is a W'rknacnter then it is possable a W'rknacnter somehow got into the Halo Universe and dreamed which created the Flood (this is before the forerunners encountered them). The W'rknacnter can create Chaotic creatures and the Flood seem very Chaotic. This is just a theory so dont flame me please.


If the Ark is a bubble universe that will survive the Halo detonations then it's likely a way to escape the end of the universe, a serious problem faced by the Wyrcnter and Durandal. In Infinity didn't Durandal claim to find a way to escape, that involved releasing a terrible evil? I think it likely that the Flood are the Wyrcanter and got in through something like the Ark. I also think an intelligent AI such as Durandal or MB would hitch a ride away from the Big Crunch in the Ark. When I first heard Mendicant Bias he sounded so much like Durandal I thought it was him, found by the forerunners in the Ark, but I think he would have told him his name. Is it possible it's the other way, Mendicant Bias, Cortana et al end up in the Marathon universe to be researched by Bernard? I'm not too sure actually, this immortality across the closing of the universe stuff is pretty heavy.

I really want to see a marathon connection so I might just be grasping. "Bungie has announced they are in seperate universes" this is technically true with my connectioning.

I have no analysis on what the planet at the end is, other than I have a gut feeling the chief is a universe away from his friends.

Note I haven't really read this MYTHICLY long thread, I just wanted to throw some of my musings in to support Wyrcanter guy.

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  • 11.15.2007 10:21 PM PDT
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Its probably a new threat that we havnt even thought of... Maybe what wiped out the fleeing Forerunners

  • 11.15.2007 10:26 PM PDT

Ahhh! can't believe they took it out of the dictionary ....and NO I'm not coming out of my shell untill you get that THING off my avatar

until they write a book, or another game explaining, or bungie flat out says, I won't trust anyone........

  • 11.15.2007 10:29 PM PDT
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Seeing how after 3 Halo games the only enemies have been The Convenant, Flood, and at random points the Sentinals I doubt that Bungie would throw in a new enemy to the mix. If they were going to then I think it would have been somehow mentioned in the games and novels. But I could be wrong, no one knows. Thats just my opinion.

  • 11.15.2007 10:32 PM PDT

Halo 3 multiplayer is frustrating.

Blah.

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  • 11.15.2007 10:33 PM PDT
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We are just a bunch of squirrels in the world trying to get a nut...
But seriously we are trying our best to pool our intellects and find an answer, Bungie loves to hide plot indicators in plain sight

  • 11.15.2007 10:34 PM PDT
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They sure do.

I have another question I hope someone can answer. Do we know for sure if any of the Covenant actually escaped the Ark incident. If you think about it wouldnt the entire Covenant armada be there? It was the last piece of their Great Journey and their last prophet was there so they would throw everything they had at the Ark to stop the humans from stopping them. What I'm trying to get at is, is the Covenant still a threat or have most of them been killed if not all of them?

  • 11.15.2007 10:38 PM PDT
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If any of you are interested in the thread I was talking about this the link

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14500098

  • 11.15.2007 10:41 PM PDT