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I think not, the Prophets basically left most of the covenant behind to continue the great journey. High Charity was lost to the flood, that was only a capital ship, one of many, plus the respective homeworlds of all the races still exist. What was once the Covenant would now be locked in a civil war.

  • 11.15.2007 10:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Thoth49
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Posted by: MillionsEdge
Maybe the Flood are just a biological weapon of a greater enemy still...


O here is another theory about how the Flood were created.

In the Marathon Series there is a creature called a W'rknacnter. In PiD (which is set in the Marathon Universe) the player has to stop a dreaming God from awakening (many people have come to the conclusion that the dreaming God is a W'rknacnter). Now in PiD when the Dreaming God dreamed its dreams became a REALITY. So the monsters you fight in PiD are the creation of the God's dream. So if the Dreaming God is a W'rknacnter then it is possable a W'rknacnter somehow got into the Halo Universe and dreamed which created the Flood (this is before the forerunners encountered them). The W'rknacnter can create Chaotic creatures and the Flood seem very Chaotic. This is just a theory so dont flame me please.


If the Ark is a bubble universe that will survive the Halo detonations then it's likely a way to escape the end of the universe, a serious problem faced by the Wyrcnter and Durandal. In Infinity didn't Durandal claim to find a way to escape, that involved releasing a terrible evil? I think it likely that the Flood are the Wyrcanter and got in through something like the Ark. I also think an intelligent AI such as Durandal or MB would hitch a ride away from the Big Crunch in the Ark. When I first heard Mendicant Bias he sounded so much like Durandal I thought it was him, found by the forerunners in the Ark, but I think he would have told him his name. Is it possible it's the other way, Mendicant Bias, Cortana et al end up in the Marathon universe to be researched by Bernard? I'm not too sure actually, this immortality across the closing of the universe stuff is pretty heavy.

I really want to see a marathon connection so I might just be grasping. "Bungie has announced they are in seperate universes" this is technically true with my connectioning.

I have no analysis on what the planet at the end is, other than I have a gut feeling the chief is a universe away from his friends.

Note I haven't really read this MYTHICLY long thread, I just wanted to throw some of my musings in to support Wyrcanter guy.


Well what you said was that the Flood are the W'rknacnter and that is not true. The W'rknacnter is described much differently in the Marathon games and PiD and they are totally different then the Flood. But they can be the Creators of the Flood.

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Posted by: MillionsEdge
I think not, the Prophets basically left most of the covenant behind to continue the great journey. High Charity was lost to the flood, that was only a capital ship, one of many, plus the respective homeworlds of all the races still exist. What was once the Covenant would now be locked in a civil war.


OK. Thank you for clarifying that for me

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yea i think there are still convenant, it's just the ones that went for battle were wiped out.
because don't forget there's a entire planet the covenant live on as well as the elites.

like someone else said, where did the flood come from? i haven't read anything relating to where they came from only that the halos were defense mechanisms against them.

and derek the humans are def descendants of the forerunners as stated all over and by the gravemind etc.

  • 11.15.2007 10:47 PM PDT

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Mabye you will encounter the Precursers in the next game with MC in it.

Also mabye the Precursers (or the forerunners) ARE the Jjaro from the Marathon Universe. The Jjaro had technology that can send someone (or something) to other Universes. So if Halo is in a PARALEL UNIVERSE then the Jjaro would be able to travel to it. They then could have called themselves the Precursers (or mabye they are the forerunners insteid).

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Well what you said was that the Flood are the W'rknacnter and that is not true. The W'rknacnter is described much differently in the Marathon games and PiD and they are totally different then the Flood. But they can be the Flood creators.

So you are saying that the W'rknacnter created the Flood? How is that possible? I thought that Marathon took place way after Halo and then theres that whole different universe thing as well. The Flood have been here as long as the Forerunners have been here. So to say that they were created by the W'rknacnter from Marathon is impossible. Just my opinion.

  • 11.15.2007 10:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Trafford420
Well what you said was that the Flood are the W'rknacnter and that is not true. The W'rknacnter is described much differently in the Marathon games and PiD and they are totally different then the Flood. But they can be the Flood creators.

So you are saying that the W'rknacnter created the Flood? How is that possible? I thought that Marathon took place way after Halo and then theres that whole different universe thing as well. The Flood have been here as long as the Forerunners have been here. So to say that they were created by the W'rknacnter from Marathon is impossible. Just my opinion.


They do take place in DIFFERENT UNIVERSES. We do not know very much about the W'rknacnter but we do know the species was very powerful in the Marathon Universe. Now in PiD the W'rknacnter (when it was dreaming) could make its dreams BECOME A REALITY. So the W'rknacnter could create chaotic new species. It is possable that 1 W'rknacnter somehow go to the Halo Universe (this is only if the Marathon and Halo Universe are part of one BIG Multiverse) and crashed on some other planet and started to Dream like it did in PiD. Its dreams then created the Flood.

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Posted by: Trafford420
Well what you said was that the Flood are the W'rknacnter and that is not true. The W'rknacnter is described much differently in the Marathon games and PiD and they are totally different then the Flood. But they can be the Flood creators.

So you are saying that the W'rknacnter created the Flood? How is that possible? I thought that Marathon took place way after Halo and then theres that whole different universe thing as well. The Flood have been here as long as the Forerunners have been here. So to say that they were created by the W'rknacnter from Marathon is impossible. Just my opinion.


They do take place in DIFFERENT UNIVERSES. We do not know very much about the W'rknacnter but we do know the species was very powerful in the Marathon Universe. Now in PiD the W'rknacnter (when it was dreaming) could make its dreams BECOME A REALITY. So the W'rknacnter could create chaotic new species. It is possable that 1 W'rknacnter somehow go to the Halo Universe (this is only if the Marathon and Halo Universe are part of one BIG Multiverse) and crashed on some other planet and started to Dream like it did in PiD. Its dreams then created the Flood.


Could be but that seems to complicated for the Halo story. I am one of the people that dont believe that Marathon and Halo are connected. But unlike other people I provide facts and opinions to back up my statements.

  • 11.15.2007 11:00 PM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

(30 pages later...) is this thread still talking about Mars?

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Posted by: Hydrilus
(30 pages later...) is this thread still talking about Mars?


It hasnt been for awhile now.

  • 11.15.2007 11:01 PM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

ty, was just wondering :-)

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So if the Ark was either destroyed or badly damaged(I think damaged) does that mean that the other Halo installations are all disarmed. I think the Ark was the like the brain of the Halos or like the CPU. So if the Ark is no longer active wouldnt that shut down the Halos or can they still be fired with an index. If they can still be fired with an index and not the Ark then I doubt Bungie would just leave and move MC over to the Marathon universe. There is just too many problems with the Halo>Marathon theory, which is why I disagree with it. It seems more practical that they are still in the Halo universe and are somewhere near the Ark. And that the planet is another shield world built by the Forerunners and possibly thats where they are at....maybe.

  • 11.15.2007 11:28 PM PDT

-blam!- GTFO OF MY SIGNATURE

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars

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Posted by: Wildcard1992
1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars


We already know all of this, read the thread

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This thread is too good to let die

  • 11.16.2007 12:20 PM PDT

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I think this Thread is great so it cant die.

  • 11.16.2007 2:15 PM PDT
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What we need is more people doing research like the OP did. If we had more people searching we could come to the correct theory sooner

  • 11.16.2007 2:47 PM PDT

Still loving this support guys.

If this thread hits 1000 Posts.
You all get cookies.

  • 11.16.2007 2:49 PM PDT
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Nice one, But what type of cookies hmmmm?

Anyway, I think some people may be going or at least may start to go into too much detail with these theories and I reckon that the next game will actually turn out to be a lot simpler than you think cos i've seen it happen loads of times before where people have major discussions over what happens next and stuff and it gets all scientific and gets to a point where everyonw turns into a complete -blam!- and cries if someone argues against them but anyway ever thought that it could just be that the MC is just drifting away from the ark of whereever that portal was and will just be found by rescue ship thingymabobs eh?...

(Ok, I know thats probally not true but I'm still throwing it out there)

  • 11.16.2007 3:25 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

I'm a walking nightmare, an arsenal of doom
I kill conversation as I walk into the room
I'm a three line whip, I'm the sort of thing they ban
I'm a walking disaster, I'm a demolition man

If that is mars, then why is the sun blue? Anyone> If it was that far back, when the sum was still blue, mars would not even be formed. Sooo why blue?

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Posted by: masterk15
If that is mars, then why is the sun blue? Anyone> If it was that far back, when the sum was still blue, mars would not even be formed. Sooo why blue?


Im going to have to agree. Our sun hasnt been blue since it first formed. I've taken a lot of advanced science classes and if i remember correctly stars dont start over again. Once they expire they expand into a red giant and then go supernova. They is no reforming after that at least for a very, i stress VERY, long time. Thats why im still sticking with that they are still near the Ark.

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yeah you need to back that up more pal....and ya like you didn't put the word mars there.

  • 11.16.2007 3:48 PM PDT

"Spartans Never Die", Kurt Ambrose Spartan-051

Zealot of Law

Sounds like a bad jet lee movie

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yeah you need to back that up more pal....and ya like you didn't put the word mars there.


What are you talking about. I just provided proof that it isnt Mars. Our sun isnt blue, therefore that cant be Mars. Read the thread.

  • 11.16.2007 3:52 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Well.. Possible. But.. Listen. The half of the ship that MC Wasnt on was destroyed... Arbiter used an escape pod. Also. They both went through the portal, and the portal isn't leading to different unis/galaxies/dimensions, it leads farther out into space. Maybe MAYBE another galaxy. Also, if you read the books, as some people do, most people that do believe the planet is Onyx, and it's finally rebuilt it's self. I believe Halo 4, if there is one, will involve the remaining Spartan III's, Spartan II's, Doctor Halsley, and Mendez.

Edit- Confused? You should be.

[Edited on 11.16.2007 4:04 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2007 4:02 PM PDT