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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

Posted by: the X to the 47
hmm.well thought out, but you are mistaken. you say that arby makes through the portal but MC doesnt. thats true. but it isnt a portal. it is a slipspace jump. if you ever read the books you would know that they jump very often. they jumped away from the exploding halo. the shaw-fujikawa drive failed while jumping, leaving MC half way through. i agree with the marathon theory, but get all your facts right please.


never read the books i don't like to read much sorry

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who you talking to kid. maybe you should cancel yours if your going to talk like that on a friendly conversation of what people think of the next big game from bungie might be


im talking to the kid that called me a dumbass. and wut r u some kind of peace maker?

  • 02.07.2008 3:00 PM PDT

sry thought you were talking to me

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what ever ur right it should b a friendly convo so i apologize to both of u

  • 02.07.2008 3:03 PM PDT

ok glad you think that way

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Posted by: phearmaker
Also, the people who post the stupid " Zomg there cant be a marathon universe related to the halo one because theres a marathon symbol on 343GS.
Ok, So basically you are saying that you cant have 1 of the same thing in two different universes?
So if there are humans in the marathon universe, there cant be humans in the halo universe?
Busted.


And to all the morons who are posting
ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.


READ THE DAMNED POST YOU BLATANT RETARDS.


THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON * I.O.W a different universe *.

Another strange thing, The word MARS at the near bottom of this post was put in bold. I never put that word in bold, Seems strange to me.




As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.






Sorry to burst your bubble... but the ship broke apart AFTER the slip stream jump And so what he crashed on Mars... They're in the SOL system... there is a mars in the bloody SOL system... And HALO 3 is the LAST OF THE SERIES, unless they lied to us... but still... If you go to XBL market and get the videos of them telling how this was going to be "The Return of the King" of the Halo universe. (Which means the HALO series has come to a close... other then the Prequel coming out, HALO WARS. This doesn't mean this is the last we see of MC, just the end of Halo... 0-o)
My guess is that when the ship broke, the half with MC was shot off like a sling shot to Mars (because the other half with the Arbiter Crashed on Earth.), they went full force through the portal. This then caused the ship to be pulled into the orbit of Mars, and the rest is unknown to us about the Chief's Fate.
Also, the chief could've been sent back in time (you didn't think this theory through)... because he would have no control of the broken ship... so he'd be stuck in a cryotube on Mars until after the events of Halo 3, as such he wouldn't of been able to stop the flood, and the allance may still have existed.

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  • 02.07.2008 3:07 PM PDT

Wow, well done.

You actually have a good amount of evidence to support your theory and makes your theory extremely plausible.

Kudos.

  • 02.07.2008 3:11 PM PDT

maybe the movie will reslove it instead of them making another game that could happen

[Edited on 02.07.2008 3:12 PM PST]

  • 02.07.2008 3:12 PM PDT

what does this trigger thing do again

I agree with your 100 percent theroy

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Ok nice proof as well im not shunning your theory as i have never played or know anything about marathon.


I'm just saying that i'm not convinced because i was lead to believe that MC wasn't in another universe but another galaxy as how else would the replacement instalation 05 get to where used to be and what would the point be in the ark building it?

i may have it completely wrong but im just stating nice find though :)

  • 02.07.2008 3:16 PM PDT

what does this trigger thing do again

Posted by: jaller141
Posted by: phearmaker
Also, the people who post the stupid " Zomg there cant be a marathon universe related to the halo one because theres a marathon symbol on 343GS.
Ok, So basically you are saying that you cant have 1 of the same thing in two different universes?
So if there are humans in the marathon universe, there cant be humans in the halo universe?
Busted.


And to all the morons who are posting
ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.


READ THE DAMNED POST YOU BLATANT RETARDS.


THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON * I.O.W a different universe *.

Another strange thing, The word MARS at the near bottom of this post was put in bold. I never put that word in bold, Seems strange to me.




As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.






Sorry to burst your bubble... but the ship broke apart AFTER the slip stream jump And so what he crashed on Mars... They're in the SOL system... there is a mars in the bloody SOL system... And HALO 3 is the LAST OF THE SERIES, unless they lied to us... but still... If you go to XBL market and get the videos of them telling how this was going to be "The Return of the King" of the Halo universe. (Which means the HALO series has come to a close... other then the Prequel coming out, HALO WARS. This doesn't mean this is the last we see of MC, just the end of Halo... 0-o)
My guess is that when the ship broke, the half with MC was shot off like a sling shot to Mars (because the other half with the Arbiter Crashed on Earth.), they went full force through the portal. This then caused the ship to be pulled into the orbit of Mars, and the rest is unknown to us about the Chief's Fate.
Also, the chief could've been sent back in time (you didn't think this theory through)... because he would have no control of the broken ship... so he'd be stuck in a cryotube on Mars until after the events of Halo 3, as such he wouldn't of been able to stop the flood, and the allance may still have existed.
what about halo wars of course then again that was the past

  • 02.07.2008 3:17 PM PDT

what does this trigger thing do again


Posted by: XxSpliffyxX
Ok nice proof as well im not shunning your theory as i have never played or know anything about marathon.


I'm just saying that i'm not convinced because i was lead to believe that MC wasn't in another universe but another galaxy as how else would the replacement instalation 05 get to where used to be and what would the point be in the ark building it?

i may have it completely wrong but im just stating nice find though :)
Nice proof thats great proof

  • 02.07.2008 3:19 PM PDT

If you need fresh organs, I'm your guy.

Wow! What an educated and well-researched thread. Great theory and with solid evidence to back it up.

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jaller 141
Unfortenatly your thery wouldnt be plausable, even if the MC got sent back in time he would have run into the invasion with half a ship, NOT GOOD. And for your sling shot theory to work, he would have been seen by earth, and even if he wasnt, you can see a masive urban landscape at the end of halo 3.

Im sorry to blow your theory up but it just dosnt make since, and i will reiterate my earlier point that we can only wait and hope that bungie will make us believe, that the story will get better, and that the chief can tie up a FEW loose ends, like the whole galaxy spanning relegis empire, no matter what happend their still has to be a few die hards out their aming for earth. still we cannot know for certain what is going to happen in the series until bungie releases whatever information they have, so i would ask that all people debating this subject calm down, and be civil.

Just because you beat the game dosent mean its over. Its only just begun.

BELIEVE!!!

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yeah good theory except u forgot one major thing which i have yet to read in this forum. THE MOVIE. the game is over but there still ironing out the details but there will b one and hey maybe master chief will make it back to earth. im sure the movie will answer all the questions and get rid of some rediculous theories

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OMG before my post now you had 1337 post which made it leet

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Member since January 26, 2008 and still kicking more ass in Crysis than yesterday.

Wait... what?

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Cheating is ok.

Posted by: Armada7
who you talking to kid. maybe you should cancel yours if your going to talk like that on a friendly conversation of what people think of the next big game from bungie might be


im talking to the kid that called me a dumbass. and wut r u some kind of peace maker?



Yeah he's a peacemaker I know you aren't a peace maker.
ex:
Ronald Reagen
George Washington
And so on...

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Posted by: Kildar 2052
jaller 141
Unfortenatly your thery wouldnt be plausable, even if the MC got sent back in time he would have run into the invasion with half a ship, NOT GOOD. And for your sling shot theory to work, he would have been seen by earth, and even if he wasnt, you can see a masive urban landscape at the end of halo 3.

Im sorry to blow your theory up but it just dosnt make since, and i will reiterate my earlier point that we can only wait and hope that bungie will make us believe, that the story will get better, and that the chief can tie up a FEW loose ends, like the whole galaxy spanning relegis empire, no matter what happend their still has to be a few die hards out their aming for earth. still we cannot know for certain what is going to happen in the series until bungie releases whatever information they have, so i would ask that all people debating this subject calm down, and be civil.

Just because you beat the game dosent mean its over. Its only just begun.

BELIEVE!!!

Sigh... I have to rephrash... hate this part...
There is a higher odd no one saw the back end of the ship, because the Covenant fleet left when the portal opened, along with the surviving UNSC fleet. And who says they appeared right above earth... the Arbiter Crashed landed there, but it doesn't mean they had to be close... they could've been by Pluto or Venus...
And please read the all of my first post... I stated that this is the end of Halo, other then Halo Wars... but this doesn't mean the end of MC...

[Edited on 02.07.2008 3:41 PM PST]

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I agree with arcad1abiker14.

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Posted by: jaller141
Posted by: Kildar 2052
jaller 141
Unfortenatly your thery wouldnt be plausable, even if the MC got sent back in time he would have run into the invasion with half a ship, NOT GOOD. And for your sling shot theory to work, he would have been seen by earth, and even if he wasnt, you can see a masive urban landscape at the end of halo 3.

Im sorry to blow your theory up but it just dosnt make since, and i will reiterate my earlier point that we can only wait and hope that bungie will make us believe, that the story will get better, and that the chief can tie up a FEW loose ends, like the whole galaxy spanning relegis empire, no matter what happend their still has to be a few die hards out their aming for earth. still we cannot know for certain what is going to happen in the series until bungie releases whatever information they have, so i would ask that all people debating this subject calm down, and be civil.

Just because you beat the game dosent mean its over. Its only just begun.

BELIEVE!!!

Sigh... I have to rephrash... hate this part...
There is a higher odd no one saw the back end of the ship, because the Covenant fleet left when the portal opened, along with the surviving UNSC fleet. And who says they appeared right above earth... the Arbiter Crashed landed there, but it doesn't mean they had to be close... they could've been by Pluto or Venus...


If you payed attention in halo 2 cortana/human military were able to find the incoming covenet fleet out by mars by using sensors, and if you payed attention while you were playing the game the elite fleet left with the remaining humens before the master cheif, and would have been in position to see the back of the ship come through, also the chiefs armor carrys close to 1 hour of oxygen, and he was next to a cryo pod, and if he was next to earth he could have sent a transmission and been picked up in a couple of hours, or taken a life pod and meet them half way there, or the elites who were beating the humens because of their suppeirer ships could have gotten him in a couple of minuets. And the arbitor would have had acces to the humens sensors and would have seen the other end of the ship and then organized a rescue party. Not to mention that cortana said that the portal colapsed as they went through it, not after, so they could not have made it back to SOL no matter how much you wish for that to be true.

  • 02.07.2008 3:47 PM PDT

One of my Halo 3 montages.

Posted by: Snipa4Lyfe
for some reason i felt like i was reading what would parallel a 9/11 conspiracy for the halo universe... lol

but it sounds like you put a lot of time into this, so congrats. Personally, i don't think they intended any sort of story elements in the bonus cinematic, but rather just some sort of sign that master chief was alive and that they didn't completely end halo as we know it, just the current story arc.


that's exactly what i was thinking. it's more of a way of showing that the chief isn't dead and that there's still more to come. i really don't think they're gonna intagrade the two stories together....so what, they can have a flintstones meet the jetsons type story? i highly doubt it.

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Dude, what is your IQ because my brain just imploded.

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i have never played marathon games but that plot twist would make 100% sence.

  • 02.07.2008 4:00 PM PDT

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I hold with those who favor fire.

Awesome theory. However, everyone will have to wait, as when Eric Nylund's halo 3 novel comes out, everything will be answered.

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Nice Job Man.

  • 02.07.2008 4:08 PM PDT