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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is. NEW PROOF!!!!!
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I'd love it if this nearly 60 page thread was all based on the fact that the floating object near the Master Chief's head was actually just a torn piece of ship that was floating around in zero G.

  • 02.08.2008 7:03 AM PDT
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I dont care wether its true or not i think its neat he was able to connect so many things so even if it isnt true its an awsome idea

  • 02.08.2008 7:36 AM PDT
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search halo and marathon on google... he is not the only one whom has discovered obvious relations. It is possible that halo4 will be marathon........ I would enjoy that very much! and considering how each halo gave more and more marathon clues as we go along it feels like they were building it up ("marathon man" achievement anyone?)

  • 02.08.2008 7:39 AM PDT
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Well i just play the game i dont really feel like getting into the whole thing it does sound neat tho but this is the first thing i noticed were someone made a conection onther then all the marathon symbols in halo

  • 02.08.2008 7:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: DiskyxDJ
Well i just play the game i dont really feel like getting into the whole thing it does sound neat tho but this is the first thing i noticed were someone made a conection onther then all the marathon symbols in halo


ya I did a little research out of curiosity. there is some good evidence... although we won't know anything till the game is announced......

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  • 02.08.2008 7:53 AM PDT
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you sir win the internets

  • 02.08.2008 7:54 AM PDT
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Props.... we need a fresh shipment of recon for this guy! come on people!

  • 02.08.2008 7:56 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is. NEW PROOF!!!!!

Spirits of Fire Leader

Has anyone seen the screenshots of Oni, one of Bungie's older games? The Marathon symbol is present in that game too. Heres one of the pictures, look at the object in the bottom left corner.
http://www.bungie.net/projects/oni/asset_popup_viewer.aspx?at =59&cc=32&item=7

I've never actually played that game, but I don't think it has anything to do with Marathon, does it? And if it doesn't, then why is it so special that Bungie put Marathon symbols in Halo?

I don't really like to believe the Marathon theory for a few reasons. For one, and I hope someone pointed this out earlier in here. The star seen in the legendary cutscene is blue. Our sun is yellow. So if Bungie knows anything about astronomy, they would have made the star yellow is they intended that planet to be Mars. Chief is in a galaxy somewhere though. I say that because at the beginning of the normal ending, you see a nebula behind the ship. Nebulas don't exist outside galaxies. Nebulas are remnants of stars. There are no stars floating randomly between galaxies. And since the ark was outside the galaxy, you have to assume he is back in either our galaxy, or some other galaxy.

I have my own theory that I believe fits better into the storyline, and is taken from clues from the terminals. I wrote this theory in a forum somewhere else and people think it makes alot of sense. If you read all of the terminals on legendary, Mendicant Bias, the ancient Forerunner AI that went all Benedict Arnold on the Forerunners. He says he wants you to go to his makers and tell them he has changed, and is sorry for turning on them, something along those lines. here is the actual message:

"You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow the betrayal with another?

You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder then I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive.

But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer.

Atonement.

And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

And you shall be my example. "


From reading this you could say that Mendicant altered the portal as the chief went through it, sending him to Mendicant's makers, and that is where you see him on the legendary ending. Of course this is just speculation. Ive heard many theories and this is the only one that makes the most sense in the story. Alot of this information was found on Halopedia. I realize alot of the information on there isnt accurate, but you can always tell a good page from a bad one.


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  • 02.08.2008 8:12 AM PDT
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I shoot to kill.
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ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.

  • 02.08.2008 8:17 AM PDT
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Well when bungie said they where going to have nothing more to do with "Halo" they said nothing about the "Master Chief" could they make a Marathon/Halo?

  • 02.08.2008 8:44 AM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

/Hardstyle/

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makes sense but u forgot one thing it is known that bungie pays homage to its older game by referencing things from marathon into the halo series ie rocket launcher and the hunters. so what your saying is that hunters and exact replicas of halo's rocket launcher also went through portals. srry great theory but yer wrong. did u also notice that the assault rifle's name in marathon is very close to the one in halo. so i guess the weapons developers went through a portal to. again srry its a no.


rewrite this and please dont try to sound smart, it doesn't help you. In fact i think you use it to confuse others more rather then explain them. So please rewrite, because i think i know what you are saying and i will prove you wrong, but please rewrite it for better understanding. Also, remember that i am just contradicting what you are saying, so when you rewrite this you will see the mistake you are making, and remember I am also not saying that i am right and you are wrong, i just saying that there is different angles and possibilities of this theory.


i was not trying to sound smart i was trying to point out that it is known that bungie references marathon in halo. second what do you mean rewrite it better i wrote it fine but still i just think that if bungie was planning on this story ark it would cantradict most things in halo thus far. AND I AM SMART rofl any ways i just want normal halo. no marahalothon.

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  • 02.08.2008 11:47 AM PDT
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!!AWESOME!! you must be a genious.

  • 02.08.2008 11:48 AM PDT
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In 1845, Master Chief & Chuck Norris met at a pub in Ireland. They made a bet as to who could eat more potatoes in one sitting. By 1852, they had both eaten so many potatoes that there weren't enough to feed the Irish people, subsequently causing the deaths of 25% of the entire population of Ireland. History attributes it to a pathogenic water mould, Phytophthora infestans, but the Irish know the truth, and to this day, still refer to it as "The MC & Chuck Norris Irish Massacre."


Posted by: phearmaker
And it is not onyx because it was previously destroyed.
And it can ALSO not be onyx because MC was NOT sent back in time.


Playing devil's advocate here, I don't know or care one way or the other, but could it be possible that the Forerunners built more than one shield world like Onyx? The book stated that the Forerunner built the Dyson Sphere in Onyx to protect them from annihilation in the event of the activation of the rings. It doesn't make sense that the Forerunner would establish only one of these safe havens in the entire galaxy. More likely, they would be scattered about, so that if the rings were to be activated, Forefunner everywhere could quickly (relatively) make a dash for the protection of the nearest Shield World.

  • 02.08.2008 11:48 AM PDT
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Either your a genious or with Bungie!

  • 02.08.2008 11:52 AM PDT
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GJ, with all the facts and evidence you through together, must have taken you some time. But I don't think its all true, I have been looking at some images and been reading up on some theories floating around. I don't think I have seen any that where as convincing. But there are always counter theories that ill further explain to you in a PM. But not on forum. I don't want more theories out there. Just in case mine isn't exact. But im almost positive that its true.

  • 02.08.2008 12:21 PM PDT

The next halo game to come out is called :Halo Wars". The game after that is called Marathon. Yes it does involve master chief. This is what I believe.
Confiedental source; "Marathons main character is supposed to be master chief. Marathon for the macs time frame sais halo comes before it. So poeple are wondering how can master chief and marathon be relatied?
Sorry but Halo 4 is Marathon...........BELIEVE

  • 02.08.2008 12:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: phearmaker
And it is not onyx because it was previously destroyed.
And it can ALSO not be onyx because MC was NOT sent back in time.


Playing devil's advocate here, I don't know or care one way or the other, but could it be possible that the Forerunners built more than one shield world like Onyx? The book stated that the Forerunner built the Dyson Sphere in Onyx to protect them from annihilation in the event of the activation of the rings. It doesn't make sense that the Forerunner would establish only one of these safe havens in the entire galaxy. More likely, they would be scattered about, so that if the rings were to be activated, Forefunner everywhere could quickly (relatively) make a dash for the protection of the nearest Shield World.


The point you seem to be mission is that the forerunner stratagys were always in threes as stated the the third book. If we assume that the ARK was part of the ring portion of the stratagy, and that the shild world was part of the defense, then that leaves the offensive part of the forerunners stratgy, Which could be one of three things

1. The planet seen in halo 3 could be a military stroghold/reasearch station
2. The planet seen in halo 3 could be a ship based on David Webers sphere ship designs in his heir to empire book
3. The planet seen in halo 3 could be a military boder patrol for a military complex

Either way it seems plausible that the cheif who has run into so much forerunner technology so far would be the most likely canndadate to find a little more = )

  • 02.08.2008 1:02 PM PDT
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All I am going to say is... They cannot leave Master Chiefs story with an ending like this.

  • 02.08.2008 1:08 PM PDT

CoE. If you don't know what that means...

Please note, im in no way trying to prove u are all wrong. In fact, i like those theories.

I think bungie said there was a link between Halo and Marathon. But that doesnt mean you are right (sorry). I don't think the MC was sent to the Marathon universe.

You know, if he was sent to Marathon, the hollowed-out moon of Mars, all human sensors on Earth would have picked up the slipspace rupture and the arrival of the ship. They cirtainly have THAT good sensors, as Cortana says (in the beginning of Halo 2, the level Cairo station): "another whisper, sir. Near Io." And Io is a big lot further than Mars.

And if he was sent to another universe, what proof you have? Does Mars exist in that universe? If so, wouldn't that be the same universe then, since Mars exists just at the same place and time?

And, as Marathon symbols appear all over Halo 1, 2 and 3, isn't Marathon just the same universe but different time? So its just the prologue of Maraton...?

So, next time you have some proof but not enough, say "I have 12% proof of where master chief is." Okay? Works for me.

  • 02.08.2008 1:33 PM PDT
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the portal collapses on that side of the ship, it is stuck where it was. The Ark is outside of our galaxy, but it is never stated how far outside. for all we know it could be a different universe. If it is a different universe then it would not be too much to think that it is the Marathon universe. Bungie said that they were set in different universes, not that the story isn't linked. My last piece of evidence to help this theory: Bungie put in hundreds of Marathon references in Halo. Why do that if they have nothing to do with each other?

phearmaker for president. lol

  • 02.08.2008 1:49 PM PDT
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well done

  • 02.08.2008 2:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Topgun823
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It's possible that they could connect because it's not like Master Chief and Cortana are going to die or anything... Really awesome theory!


well cortana will probably die in about 4 years soooooooo.....

hehe, read the books too eh, smart AI only have a 7 year life span, and cortana's is shorter... not gonna spoil anything

  • 02.08.2008 2:17 PM PDT