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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is. NEW PROOF!!!!!

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Posted by: Margaritaville
Makes sense in the fact that when the ark collapsed that it may have created a worm hole.

The thing that makes sense to me about linking MC to marathon is that bungie does not own the rights to MC. Microsoft does. Bungie does own marathon though. Since bungie is now their own company MC games really wont make money for them since they dont own the license for him. Linking the Chief to become the main guy on Marathon would mean they could "Keep" master cheif while avoiding the license, since MC wouldnt have the same armor or the same name anymore.


Actually Microsoft signed a contract that it can only publish Bungie games as well, MC can be still made and worked with by Bungie, but only with Microsofts permission. Or some other stuff. Once again I obtain this statment from gameinformer the Jan. issue.

  • 02.11.2008 4:09 PM PDT

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Very nice, you obviously put a lot of thought into this. I was always under the impression that the planet they show in the end of legendary was meant to be an old forerunner planet. Seeing how when they went through the portal the first time, it brought them to the ark. Then when the portal closed it only took half the ship back, leaving chief basically where they were. While floating off, showing them being pulled into the gravity of the old forerunner planet.

When viewing the terminals they show the same planet in the corner, (well same object). The planet they are coming up on looks like that object, I just assumed it was forerunner.

  • 02.11.2008 4:27 PM PDT

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ive noticed some slight problems with what you said
1. the protagonist is a mjolnir mk iv soldier, and the MC is a SPARTAN II
2. you can only assume that the planet is mars, because the color of the planet is too obscure
3. the surface of mars is smoother than the surface of that planet
4. bungie inserts references to their previous games consistantly into Halo because they're bungie and they can do what they want. keep in mind there are myth references too.
5. when slipspace collapses, you dont get transfered into another universe, you just cant go through because the wormhole is gone (you can be turned into "atomized bits" though)
6. if you 100% believe your slipspace theory, then chunks of earth would be in that alternate universe as well as many other things
7. when bungie said that they were "different universes" they likely meant that they werent to be connected at all, because backtracking with a game would make no sense unless the purpose of the game was to give back story to a previous game.

if i am wrong, and you are right, oops... i guess you were right. they did say slipspace was unpredictable
if i am right, cool, cuz this was my first shot at doing something like this

  • 02.11.2008 4:32 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

"You are, all of you, vermin. Cowering under your bed, thinking... what? That you might escape the coming fire? Hell No! Your world will burn until its surface is on fire! And not even your Demon will live to teabag our dead bodies.For your destruction is the will of the gods! And I? I AM the stupid alien who started the alien cult known as the Covenant!"- Prophet of Poo

I have on thing I don't get. How is it mars? Unless it's like an alternate universe(don't flame me I just don't get how it's Mars)? In other words very, very --BLAM--in' awesome!

  • 02.11.2008 4:40 PM PDT
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nice theory but, i dont know if its right or not

  • 02.11.2008 4:47 PM PDT
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Name: Vorik 'Deltap
Rank: Imperial Admiral

"Whatever leniency I extended to you and your comrades before, may have been in error. If you persist in halting our course, we will burn your pathetic fleet down to the last man."

So you're suggesting that the Marathon, which took 301 years to travel 12 light years to Tau Ceti(Launched in 2472, arrived in 2773) picked up the Master Chief by 2794 when he's 150,000 light years away?

  • 02.11.2008 4:49 PM PDT

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This a very interesting theory you got going there very nice idea, but way to complicated for me XD

  • 02.11.2008 4:53 PM PDT
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that is an amazing theory.........u must be a freaking genius....... really.....i would never have figured that out. but if the chief is in a new universe do u think he will be recovered??? He might get lonely...i dont like being lonely.

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Wow. You don't sound like one of those peoplpe who's always making up random $*** that sounds okay. This could actually be true. And do you really think the bungie is done milking the Halo series for money. No offense to bungie. I would make another multi-billion dollar game if I were them.

  • 02.11.2008 5:01 PM PDT
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Very well indeed.

I love the photo proof really secures the theory.

Excellent

  • 02.11.2008 5:04 PM PDT
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do you think snowbound has anything to do with this theory?

in a weekly update, someone asked what planet snowbound took place on and bungie replied "good question." and didn't elaborate as to where it was. but they did say there were forerunner artifacts below the structures.

and i was looking into space on that level today and there is a distant star and a weird planet (doesn't look like earth or mars, but could be the planet at the end of the credits.

  • 02.11.2008 5:07 PM PDT
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  • 02.11.2008 5:08 PM PDT
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But if you actually look at it. You will see that the ring blew up in a deathstar blast way. You know when the laser fires. The laser fired but then it shorted out. It got into the part where MC is and killed him instantly. I understand what you are saying and you make good points. Though the idea of mars is strange. How is mars that far out? Here is another theory.
Gravemind was supposably a genius right. Maybe he could control things like time travel and pulled MC in. You know there are alot of theories out there. This is one is good.

  • 02.11.2008 5:15 PM PDT
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For the Sangheili!

Posted by: Omega1015
So you're suggesting that the Marathon, which took 301 years to travel 12 light years to Tau Ceti(Launched in 2472, arrived in 2773) picked up the Master Chief by 2794 when he's 150,000 light years away?

Lol, you just pwned his theory, but also, what happened to Cortana then? You didn't say anything about that.

And for Omega's counter...
LINKAGE and...
MORE LINKAGE if you really want this theory to be accurate I would suggest Thoroughly reading the time line and wiki...

  • 02.11.2008 5:19 PM PDT

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I think you're going to need a little bit more than a picture from multiplayer and from the last cutscene to prove that Master chief is in the Marathon universe...and where the heck did that whole light years mumbo jumbo come from? cibinf is right about everything he said too. your proof is all speculation if it was proof it would be solid and not full of holes.

  • 02.11.2008 5:22 PM PDT
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I PITY DA FOOL!

  • 02.11.2008 5:23 PM PDT
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Lol i bet bungie is just watching on the forums then they will choose the theory they like best and use it in the next game...IF they make another

  • 02.11.2008 5:26 PM PDT
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wow, um.... who cares?

  • 02.11.2008 5:30 PM PDT
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wait, so the master chief, who is a human, is able to survive for 200+ years until a ship picks him up? I'm confused.

  • 02.11.2008 5:52 PM PDT
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Awesome Theory. Well Thought-Out. Well-Planned.

I agree 100% Bungie would have never concluded the Halo Series(not counting HALOWARS)
without some mystery behind it. Big Question! Will Cortana and Master Chief get saved? Or will they be stuck there till INFINITY?

Veery iiinnnttteeerrreeessstttiiinnnggg?!?!?

  • 02.11.2008 5:54 PM PDT
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Im old news

lets not forget that Halo's: Combat Evolved cover art has the marathon symbol right on it right in between the A and L

  • 02.11.2008 5:59 PM PDT
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Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.

Sounds good. Of course, you still need to show some(actually any evidence at all, as you currently have none) evidence that Johns part of the ship entered the Marathon Universe, that it's the exact same year in the Marathon Universe, and the planet is Mars.

This
Is
Not
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Time
Travel
Theory.


I
Understand
That
This
Is
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A
Time
Travel
Theory
But
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A
Nearly
Unreadable
Piece
Of
Speculation
With
No
Evidence
To
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Up

btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.
idiots.


The planet did, but the Dyson Sphere didn't. When people say that the planet may be Onyx, many of them are probably talking about the Dyson Sphere.


At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.


Those two objects really don't look too similar to each other.


AND BEFORE YOU SAY THAT BUNGIE HAS STATED THERE IS NO LINK AT ALL BETWEEN MARATHON AND HALO, SHOW ME YOUR SOURCE, PICTURE, INTERVIEW, OR ANY PROOF BEFORE YOU GO ON BLIND SPECULATED BS.

Emphasis mine.

Hahahahahahahaha.

And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.

Does anyone else see the irony here?

THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON

Interesting idea. Now, do you have any evidence to support the claim you made in the last sentence?

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As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.


That was probably the only factual statement in your entire post.


It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.

You've said that before, but you still haven't supplied any evidence to support your wild speculation.


http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg


So the people behind IRIS needed an image, and they took one of mars and used it to fit into the story that had. What does that prove? Do you believe that the Flood is really Streptococcus?

Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


Maybe he was sent in time but didn't stop the flood earlier? Why can't that be true? It has just as much evidence as your theory.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe,

You still haven't shown that they went into an alternate universe.

BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.


Maybe all caps will work...

DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE?

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

That was marathon. This is Halo. There is no evidemce that John and Cortana traveled to another universe

2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game,

Or that the group behind IRIS needed a space image, so they use one of mars and hoped people wouldn't notice.

and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Coincidence. If what we see in the Legendary cutscene really is the Sun and Mars, why is there a large blue nebulae nearby and why is the light from our sun blue?









  • 02.11.2008 6:12 PM PDT
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4-1 Fenkell

hes got a point what was bungie thinking when they put that in?

  • 02.11.2008 6:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: phearmaker
It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.


btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.
idiots.

NEW SUPPORTING EVIDENCE
FINALLY UPDATED

At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.

It also shows in the halo 3 permutation.
Take a look - Picture proof.
Side view / back view of the security helmet permutation ( adds the communication box )
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/securitycom side.jpg
And now the beginning of the legendary cutscene... You can clearly see the Com box floating with the cheif
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/?action=vie w&current=Securitycom.jpg


Also, the people who post the stupid " Zomg there cant be a marathon universe related to the halo one because theres a marathon symbol on 343GS.
Ok, So basically you are saying that you cant have 1 of the same thing in two different universes?
So if there are humans in the marathon universe, there cant be humans in the halo universe?
Busted.
AND BEFORE YOU SAY THAT BUNGIE HAS STATED THERE IS NO LINK AT ALL BETWEEN MARATHON AND HALO, SHOW ME YOUR SOURCE, PICTURE, INTERVIEW, OR ANY PROOF BEFORE YOU GO ON BLIND SPECULATED BS.


And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.
If you don't, You will be insulted. =]


And to all the morons who are posting
ZOMG BUNGIE SED THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SEPERATE UNIVARZEZ.


READ THE DAMNED POST YOU BLATANT RETARDS.


THIS THEORY BEGINS WITH THE SIMPLE FACT, THAT WHEN THE ARBITER ESCAPED, HE MADE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH, HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS INTACT, WHILE THE MC'S SIDE WAS NOT. THEY BELIEVE THE MC IS DEAD BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRACE OF HIM. WHEN IN FACTUALITY, THE MASTER CHIEF WAS SIMPLY SENT INTO THE PART OF THE MULTIVERSE THAT CONTAINS MARATHON * I.O.W a different universe *.

Another strange thing, The word MARS at the near bottom of this post was put in bold. I never put that word in bold, Seems strange to me.




As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.







Perhaps instead of the security bot comm device from marathon being a hint as to the next game it is actually a REFERANCE to the marathon games, a way for bungie to show pride in the work that they have created like the marathon man achievement and such
BTW a little easter egg if you punch in marathon you see the same 5 dots on the back of your hand as on halo..... *CUE DRAUMATIC MUSIC* DUN DUN DUNNNNN

[Edited on 02.11.2008 7:23 PM PST]

  • 02.11.2008 7:17 PM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

It's not Mars, it's not in Earth's solar system. I thought this thread was done a long time ago.

  • 02.11.2008 7:21 PM PDT