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Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.
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You know.. this whole thing where the file name is called "infestation" could just mean that Mars was infested with flood at the time.

  • 10.22.2007 2:31 AM PDT
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  • 10.22.2007 2:32 AM PDT
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i tought the planet at the end was some kinda steel planet, atleast it looked like it, didnt seem 2 have water on it O_O

  • 10.22.2007 2:47 AM PDT

Posted by: OutlawSkot33
OMFG...Ihavnt seen anywhere where someone said the chief was dead, especially considering the final cutscene shows him alive. That was a lame attack at no-body. Also, NO MARATHON. HOLY -blam!-. Let me debunk that -blam!- again with the same points ive always pointed out

End Of Halo:
Master Chief (a genetically enhanced soldier with insane tonnage armor) goes into cryo on the "FORWARD ONTO DAWN"
Marathon:
A super soldier wakes up on a ship called the "Marathon'

may be both super soldiers, but, they are on two different ships.

Characters also, the AI's in the games have DIFFERENT names..Halo's is Cortana, "Marathon's" are Leela, Durandal;, and Tycho.

You say marathon takes place by Mars (a red dirt ball planet). Halo 3's final cutscene shows the `Dawn floating towards a dark planet with a forerunner-ish lighting coming from the surface, with a blue-light immiting star. Our sun, doesnt emmit blue hued light.

Another point. The ship "Marathon" was built out of Mars' moon Deimos. The "Forward Onto Dawn" is a regular UNSC ship...

In marathon, the main government is the UESC: United Earth Space Council. Halo: UNSC: United Nations Space Command.

Marathon: sub light speed ships (slower than the speed of light), and no hyper-space/slipspace/etc. Halo: Slipspace (faster than light/hyperspace) traveling ships.

Marathon: No such thing as Halo's or the Forerunners, the slipspace portal on Earth, Onyx, etc.

Marathon: Humanity hadnt colonised as many planet or explored as much as the UNSC in Halo.


Lazyboy, the ark wasnt in another universe, it was outside out galaxy and only accesible through a strong enough slipspace bubble (Earth side slipspace generator for example.



I agree with this guy. I haven't played much of Marathon but, some of you guys are making this more complicated than it has to be. How about MC is just lost in space somewhere and the UNSC haven't found him yet? Yes, there are similarities. Yes, there are Marathon easter eggs. Bungie is just giving a nod to the hardcore Bungie fans. You should really pick up a Halo Novel and find out MC's origins. By the way, in Marathon aren't you just some kind of security guard? MC is about... 40 years old in Halo 3 and was trained since he was about 5. Given a bunch of drugs to augment his agility, strength, thought process, reaction time, etc. The armor he wears is just that, armor. Even without it he can smack a small car a few kilometers. The last part is for the guy who compared the two characters.

  • 10.22.2007 3:25 AM PDT

These are the pale deaths...

The 'planetoid' in the final cutscene is of indeterminate size. Also, it is clearly metallic with a forerunner glyph and a marathon symbol on the right.

This is not mars. One cut solar image doesnt mean its of the same thing below it.

Take another look at the image.

Is there a connection between the two franchises? Yes. A solid one. But they didnt universe-hop. Near as I can tell, the Master Chief was dropped somewhere out in the Magellan Clouds just outside the galaxy proper. He'd be far enough away from the Halo Effect to survive.

If anything, the planetoid might be the Forerunner home, and the game (hypothetical, since Bungie said there wont be a Halo 4) might run parallel to a retooled version of the old Marathon 2: Durandal story, to take advantage of the new technology (A player wont want to necessarily trudge through similar-looking corridors hitting 'terminals' all the time).

And keep also in mind that this can take place X amount of years in the future. Who said it was immediately after.

"I can drop a beacon, but they wont get it for a while. Years, even," lamented Cortana.
"Wake me. When you need me," said the Chief as he settled into the Cryo Chamber.

Near as we know, a human being can survive indefinitely within a Cry Chamber, even defying grevious injuries, ala Linda.

This could easily jump 250 years, and we wouldnt know it. Whos to say they havent been drifting for over a hundred years? Not you, sir, for you have no proof. Just, as you said, "Proof in your head."

  • 10.22.2007 3:45 AM PDT
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pretty good theory but i highly doubt bungie would want to combine two of their games together doesn't make it a good story to tell...breaks the storyline too much

  • 10.22.2007 3:48 AM PDT
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If the game wasn't made by bungie, I wouldn't believe it for a second ;)

  • 10.22.2007 4:00 AM PDT

Keeping this alive

  • 10.22.2007 4:45 AM PDT
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two problems,
1. if that is an early mars, and the arbiter is in exactly the same place but in a different universe, where is the early earth?
2. if the main character can travel between universes in marathon why doesnt he just go home?
(i never played marathon)

  • 10.22.2007 4:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: phearmaker
...But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe. ...


The best theory Ive read so far, in fact, the only one that makes sense and has some backup. Congrats. Im already looking forward to the next game from now on. Thanks for the research, you made a good work and a real contribution to this community. Keep it up.

  • 10.22.2007 4:57 AM PDT
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You win since you didn't make a lame theory with no proof.

  • 10.22.2007 5:00 AM PDT

Drink up baby, stay up all night.
With the things you could do, you won't but you might.
The potential you'll be, but you'll never see.
The promises you'll only make.

Right direction, and proboly on the right track.
No matter this theory is right or wrong, I must say it's a theory with actully proof, so it's proboly the best.

  • 10.22.2007 5:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: LaZbOy92
Posted by: SK CRISIS
All this is, is sad wishful thinking. Bungie has already stated that there IS NO LINK between Halo and Marathon. Besides, slipspace portals don't send you to different universes. If you dare try and argue about slipspace portals then remember what I typed about what Bungie stated.


Who said it was slipspace. Theoretically space anomalies like Black holes can send people through time so saying this thing was a slipstream is a long guess. Also the ark, I believe, was in another universe, not a micro-dyson sphere (or whatever). His ideas are plausible and deserve alot of credit. Also that false advertisement input was kind of stupid. It might not have anything to do with the game marathon, but it could still be the same universe and the same planet.


The Ark is on the boarder of the Milky Way galaxy as cleary stated by 343GS.

  • 10.22.2007 7:02 AM PDT

Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Kevin's post = breath of fresh air.
Take it from this guy people, he knows what he's talking about.

Second accounts are NOT cheating:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=13824

Posted by: phearmaker
As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THIS IS THE SAME EXACT SAME THERMAL IMAGE OF MARS THAT IS IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
Compare this to the infestation picture from the IRIS campaign, http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/infestation mars.jpg


Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars

2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.



MC is a fictional video game character. You really need a life.

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  • 10.22.2007 7:05 AM PDT
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Thank you for gracing these forums once again instead of investing valuable time in your own life, Kevin. The man had a well written theory, although wrong for the reasons I mentioned.

  • 10.22.2007 7:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: Hybird038
Right direction, and proboly on the right track.
No matter this theory is right or wrong, I must say it's a theory with actully proof, so it's proboly the best.


Lots of theories use more proof than this one. Lines from the game, books, etc. This has some pretty pictures with 1 or two facts and limited Halo cannon. Its the best MARATHON theory I've seen, but I have seen other non Marathon theories with more support than this.

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  • 10.22.2007 7:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.


I love when people say this (to theories about the Legendary ending) and then say nothing else).

  • 10.22.2007 7:14 AM PDT

Whoa nice theory, better than flat out saying the ship is Marathon itself. But what doesn't make sense is why then was that image called Infestation? Can't really see how the name alone would fit into it.

  • 10.22.2007 7:15 AM PDT

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OMFG ARE YALL STUPID bungie has said plenty of time that HALO and MARATHON are not RELATED

  • 10.22.2007 8:59 AM PDT
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lot of sense, good job thinking about that...Oo

  • 10.22.2007 9:04 AM PDT
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I always knew that Halo 3 was the prequel to Marathon but could never really explain it. This post is awesome because it shows with proof that its true and it shuts all the "Marathon is in a different universe waa waa waaaaa" people up!

  • 10.22.2007 9:10 AM PDT
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Wow man, you coulda spent your time trying to cure cancer or something neat.... but thank you for finding out where the master chief went. our society is eternally in your debt. Mars... wow.... mars

  • 10.22.2007 9:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: ThaJokaa
OMFG ARE YALL STUPID bungie has said plenty of time that HALO and MARATHON are not RELATED


OMG you knoe Bungie likes to lie to our faces like when they were making Halo 3 and said they weren't!!!! Keep an open mind, if Bungie said pickles were gonna fly our Cortana's nose you'd believe it retard

  • 10.22.2007 9:12 AM PDT
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Sorry, Had To Delete This, Carry On

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  • 10.22.2007 11:57 AM PDT