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Subject: Where in the world in Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

I miss playing Halo with my friends.

I think Bungie won't make anymore games.

  • 04.20.2008 8:48 PM PDT

I miss playing Halo with my friends.

I think Bungie won't make anymore games.

  • 04.20.2008 8:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan IJS
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Your theory is good . . . really good.

But I kinda took Bungie's word when they said that the 2 universes aren't connected and I kind of left it at that in my mind.
After that, I read all 7 H3 terminals on all difficulties several times and the theory I came up with was that the Chief was heading for the [Maginot] Sphere--The Forerunners last secure fortress planetoid outside of the safety of the Ark. It is not specified anywhere in the terminals were the [Maginot] Sphere or Line is and , for all we know, it could be near the Desolation of the Ark.

And then, applying my knowledge from Ghosts of Onyx, I thought to myself: What if Dr. Halsey, CPO Mendez, and the other Spartans find away out of the Slipspace planet their in via a portal that takes them to the [Maginot] where John and Cortana are?


Wait a tick... Was it the Maginot Sphere? Holy crap, that could refer to either the (Dyson) Sphere that the Onyx Portal leads to or the planetoid around which the Ark is built... I have to look at that stuff again.


Ya know, I've always wondered what that sphere was in the center of the Ark. At one point I thought it was the Maginot, but then I said to myself:It can't be. The Flood never reached the Ark. In Terminal 7 [on Legendary], Offensive Bias speaks of Mendicant Bias [a rampant A.I.] bringing an infected Forerunner fleet with him to the Maginot, then attempting to drill a hole throught the Sphere's wall.

I kinda think that the Ark and the Maginot are two different constructs and places.
To say that the Ark's center planetoid is the Maginot would mean that the Flood reached the Ark--but they never did--and to say that that there once was a huge sphere wall surrounding the Ark [and, therefore making it the Maginot Sphere as well] would, actually, mean the same thing I just said, only this time, it would void the theory Ark's center planetoid being the Maginot itself [Also, if there was a huge, huge sphere wall around the Ark, where the heck did it go?].

Is it possible, however, that the Ark's center is the Maginot and that it was never there before the Rings where fired? Meaning: the Ark never had a planetoid core and that the Maginot was slipspaced into the Ark's center after the firing of the Halos?

Oh, crap. I just realized...

SORRY, PHEARMAKER!!! I'm not trying to steal your thread!


The 'planetoid' at the center of the Ark is simply a giant ball of metal and various other matter that is used for constructing new Halos. When you are at the place with the big waterfall in front of you with Arbiter and Guilty Spark, you hear GS say something about a 'Forge' when he is looking at the schematic of the Ark. This is when he knew that his installation was being rebuilt. One of the Arks purposes is to rebuild destroyed constructs. To rebuild something as large as a Halo ring they would need a huge amount of matter. They built their 'Forge' around a giant ball of the material they needed to forge with. You can't get much more efficient than that!

  • 04.20.2008 11:34 PM PDT

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As far as I can tell, the Halo Novels and games that I see on the shelf at Hastings aren't imaginary or made up.


you mean that you think halo is real? whoa. your brain must be fused to your xbox.


Your logic is wrong...mine is right... I won't waste my time on someone who can't follow a straightforward logical sequence. Anybody who reads our posts back and forth will laugh at your ridiculousness.

  • 04.20.2008 11:43 PM PDT

thats the best one i've heard so far!

  • 04.20.2008 11:49 PM PDT
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well isnt it possible that he was NOT sent into a different universe? I mean the best way to demonstrate is to take a piece of paper and pretend it is the ship. now take scissors, representing the portal. now cut the paper in half, representing the portal closing... as you can see chief has not gone back or foward, or been sent to a different univers, he is still where the ark used to be, but just floating around

[Edited on 04.21.2008 12:08 AM PDT]

  • 04.21.2008 12:05 AM PDT

i have just had a thought that in halo3, guilty spark says that the mc is "inheritor of all they left behind" (forerunner)
this could be a hint to the leg-ending, meaning that the planet thing is forerunner.
also if you look caifuly at the leg-ending, you can see a symbol.
the same symbol can be found on the top of guilty spark's head (or on the front cover of the mini book that came with the limited edition halo 3)!

as far as i am awair, forerunners were not in the marathon series, right?

  • 04.21.2008 5:15 AM PDT

I WANT TO GO OUT ON MY FEET, NOT MY KNEES.

You have an awesome theory!!!!! I have something very similar to yours, but, no Marathon universe. If you read the ghosts of onyx book, Dr. Hasley and the rest of the spartans are trapped in the shield world called 'Onyx'. I n the legendary ending of Halo 3, I think that master chief and cortana drift towards the shield world onyx. Bungie will probably bring the game into the other spartans point of view then suddenly, Bllllaaaammmmm!!!!!!!! Master chief and Cortana crash through the shield worlds crust and they meet up with with the others. This, is my theory.

  • 04.21.2008 6:19 AM PDT

The main bulk of Onyx was destroyed but the core structure remained, and at the very centre of this (In a bubble of slip-space) is where Dr. Hasley and the rest of the remaining Spartans went to. So the planet that we see at the end of Halo 3 is NOT ONYX.

However the world at the end of Halo 3 could be another form of shield world similar to Onyx. Or it could just be a planet.

[Edited on 04.21.2008 6:46 AM PDT]

  • 04.21.2008 6:45 AM PDT
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OP, I am not a mean person, but I feel like I just have to tell you that you are completey wrong. Too many flaws. I'll give you an A for effort though.

  • 04.21.2008 11:58 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world in Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

i know that this has alredy been spotted, but at the beging, johnson tels the mc and the arb to not try and kill each other. the arb replies with "were it so easy"

he tells lord hood this when he says "its hard to believe he's dead" an indication that he is not dead

  • 04.21.2008 12:02 PM PDT
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BY THE NINE DIVINE!

  • 04.21.2008 1:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Kaiser TheGreat
I think Bungie won't make anymore games.


Lol, ur retarded. Halo Wars, Halo Chronicles, ect. They will make plenty of games. It's just a matter of what they will decide to do with the Chief. Why would they build og hype with the Legendary ending if they are not going to continue the story line? And don't give me crap saying "IT'S A TRILIGY SO IT WON'T HAPPEN" or "THEY SAID IT WAS THE END OF THE STORY ARC". They can start a new story arc/triligy. As a matter of fact, they already have (Onyx).

  • 04.21.2008 2:49 PM PDT
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wow amazing.telling all my friends.u must have spent alot of time.

  • 04.21.2008 3:09 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

hey dont know if anyone posted this yet but i think it would help for this theory. Just happened to be bored and searching around for cool ideas about the halo storyline and found this. And yes it is very old lol

Source: Jason Jones in an Inside Mac Games Interview
Date: Aug 12, 1999

IMG: Any particular reason for the Marathon logo, or is it just for kicks? Is Halo somehow tied to and/or an extension of the Marathon series?

JJ: I'll say this: Observant fans of our games will note that certain themes tend to run through our games. For example, the sword Durandal (from the "Song of Roland") first appears in Minotaur as a magic sword and goes on to become a central character in Marathon. There are many other examples of common themes running through our games.




Source: Doug Zartman in a World Without Borders (Mac Addict Fix) chat
Date: Oct 6, 1999

Have Blue: What can you say about the Marathon logo appearing within the Halo logo?

BungieD: What indeed? All of our games have thematic parallels between the storylines. Mostly, some direct parallels. There are certain recurring themes; but it remains to be seen how many direct parallels there might be in the stories.



http://marathon.bungie.org/story/halo_backstory.html
dont know how to do lazy links either sorry lol

  • 04.22.2008 9:34 AM PDT
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I think that this guy is very close to this thing but it's just a video game its not rocket science....
LOL


[Edited on 04.22.2008 2:41 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2008 2:33 PM PDT
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Click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_(computer_game)
Here is a bit of info to add to the Theory just read the first couple of lines under storyline.
The next Halo video game will be a remake of the Marathon series just look at the ending of halo3..

It says the story for Marathon takes place around Mars...***Hint Hint thats the planet thats in the background of the end of Halo 3. And it also takes place around the same time..

[Edited on 04.22.2008 2:40 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2008 2:37 PM PDT

nice theory, fiinally something with proof, got to get my 10 bucks from my friend now.
btw,the next game better have a good multiplayer or im not buying it unless its like bioshock

[Edited on 04.22.2008 2:39 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2008 2:39 PM PDT

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It's a good theory and all and I can see you've really thought about this, but travel between universe doesn't seem plausible and there is nothing to suggest that the Forerunners had the technology for interdimensional travel. My theory, although not as complicated, is that the ark portal closing threw the chief and cortana millions of lightyears away from the milky way and that the planet they are nerby is populated by forerunners. Now you might be thinking; hang on aren't all the Forerunner's dead? The Forerunners could have programmed their AIs to think of them as dead. And what if the Halo's were built with the main purpose of destroying the flood if they posed a threat to humanity, with the main purpose of it being to help humanity. Yeah, I don't have a huge amount of evidence for this theory, but I'm throwing it out there!

  • 04.22.2008 3:03 PM PDT

I am all our makers once held dear: [Alexandria before the Fire].

((Farewell Halo 2! You will not be forgotten! Farewell!))

Posted by: SaMMus38
Posted by: Spartan IJS
Posted by: Tartan 118
Posted by: Spartan IJS
Your theory is good . . . really good.

But I kinda took Bungie's word when they said that the 2 universes aren't connected and I kind of left it at that in my mind.
After that, I read all 7 H3 terminals on all difficulties several times and the theory I came up with was that the Chief was heading for the [Maginot] Sphere--The Forerunners last secure fortress planetoid outside of the safety of the Ark. It is not specified anywhere in the terminals were the [Maginot] Sphere or Line is and , for all we know, it could be near the Desolation of the Ark.

And then, applying my knowledge from Ghosts of Onyx, I thought to myself: What if Dr. Halsey, CPO Mendez, and the other Spartans find away out of the Slipspace planet their in via a portal that takes them to the [Maginot] where John and Cortana are?


Wait a tick... Was it the Maginot Sphere? Holy crap, that could refer to either the (Dyson) Sphere that the Onyx Portal leads to or the planetoid around which the Ark is built... I have to look at that stuff again.


Ya know, I've always wondered what that sphere was in the center of the Ark. At one point I thought it was the Maginot, but then I said to myself:It can't be. The Flood never reached the Ark. In Terminal 7 [on Legendary], Offensive Bias speaks of Mendicant Bias [a rampant A.I.] bringing an infected Forerunner fleet with him to the Maginot, then attempting to drill a hole throught the Sphere's wall.

I kinda think that the Ark and the Maginot are two different constructs and places.
To say that the Ark's center planetoid is the Maginot would mean that the Flood reached the Ark--but they never did--and to say that that there once was a huge sphere wall surrounding the Ark [and, therefore making it the Maginot Sphere as well] would, actually, mean the same thing I just said, only this time, it would void the theory Ark's center planetoid being the Maginot itself [Also, if there was a huge, huge sphere wall around the Ark, where the heck did it go?].

Is it possible, however, that the Ark's center is the Maginot and that it was never there before the Rings where fired? Meaning: the Ark never had a planetoid core and that the Maginot was slipspaced into the Ark's center after the firing of the Halos?

Oh, crap. I just realized...

SORRY, PHEARMAKER!!! I'm not trying to steal your thread!


The 'planetoid' at the center of the Ark is simply a giant ball of metal and various other matter that is used for constructing new Halos. When you are at the place with the big waterfall in front of you with Arbiter and Guilty Spark, you hear GS say something about a 'Forge' when he is looking at the schematic of the Ark. This is when he knew that his installation was being rebuilt. One of the Arks purposes is to rebuild destroyed constructs. To rebuild something as large as a Halo ring they would need a huge amount of matter. They built their 'Forge' around a giant ball of the material they needed to forge with. You can't get much more efficient than that!


Sounds good, but where did you get this info?--I mean--about the planetoid? Is this an educated guess (and a good one at that) based on Spark's monologue, or did you read this somewhere, or both? Just curious.

[Edited on 04.22.2008 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2008 3:05 PM PDT

I am all our makers once held dear: [Alexandria before the Fire].

((Farewell Halo 2! You will not be forgotten! Farewell!))

Posted by: P1MPSTA 38
You have an awesome theory!!!!! I have something very similar to yours, but, no Marathon universe. If you read the ghosts of onyx book, Dr. Hasley and the rest of the spartans are trapped in the shield world called 'Onyx'. I n the legendary ending of Halo 3, I think that master chief and cortana drift towards the shield world onyx. Bungie will probably bring the game into the other spartans point of view then suddenly, Bllllaaaammmmm!!!!!!!! Master chief and Cortana crash through the shield worlds crust and they meet up with with the others. This, is my theory.


I kinda wondered about that myself, but then I realized that it's not possible. The Chief and Cortana are millions of light years from the Milky Way--our galaxy. Now, the Chief could possibly survive the journey to Onyx's core because he's in cryo. Cortana wouldn't make the journey because 'Smart' A.I.'s have an average lifespan of 7 years and, obviously, Dr. Halsey, CPO Mendez, and the other Spartans wouldn't be around welcome Master Chief a million light years later.

  • 04.22.2008 3:16 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

Posted by: dartendaspartan
It's a good theory and all and I can see you've really thought about this, but travel between universe doesn't seem plausible and there is nothing to suggest that the Forerunners had the technology for interdimensional travel. My theory, although not as complicated, is that the ark portal closing threw the chief and cortana millions of lightyears away from the milky way and that the planet they are nerby is populated by forerunners. Now you might be thinking; hang on aren't all the Forerunner's dead? The Forerunners could have programmed their AIs to think of them as dead. And what if the Halo's were built with the main purpose of destroying the flood if they posed a threat to humanity, with the main purpose of it being to help humanity. Yeah, I don't have a huge amount of evidence for this theory, but I'm throwing it out there!


if the book first strike means anything we know that the forerunners have the technology to "bend" time with that crystal found on reach. the master chief actually went back in time when he arrived in reach and got to reach BEFORE the events at halo actually occur.

  • 04.22.2008 3:30 PM PDT
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wow dude this is really good. I'm gonna do some research. I'll post what I find. Hope it's good.


Edit: I've been working on this and I noticed at the end of the cutscene Cortana says, quote, "When Halo fired it shook itself to pieces, did a number on The Ark. The portal couldn't sustain itself. We made it through just as it collapsed. Well some of us made it." Unquote. That leads me to believe that the Chief and Cortana think that they are still in the Halo Universe and think that The Arbiter's dead or something. This is all I have so far, will post when I get more though.

Edit: Bungie is good. Took us a while to connect the dots. *Bungie=Wizards*

[Edited on 04.22.2008 5:48 PM PDT]

  • 04.22.2008 3:39 PM PDT

//rant//

Calm down dudes, show pity for those who lack intelligence, not hate.
Now then children, Bungie are typical of most developers of game series in that they have a plot with a beginning and an end already built into it. Their plot end details are not set in stone, though they have a general idea how they want to end it,
and the path from the beggining to end is definately not set. They need to be vague because they need to keep their options open, for many reasons.

For example ,I have it qouted in a haloplanet interview that the ending to GofO has been left open because that branch of the story was not fully developed and they hadn't decided how they were going to bring that branch back into line with the next book or if they were going to connect a book with the release of Halo 3. You see now that this was a wise thing to do. because it left them free to do a prelude, without upsetting fans by not continuing Onyx's storyline.

This probably doesn't really make much sense to you guys, but for bungie it is a good strategy and the main reason why they seem vague about plot details, besides the fact that vagueness can encourage hype.
So don't get worked up over lack of details, and espeically don't assume you can do anything more than speculate. There are no facts.

  • 04.22.2008 10:00 PM PDT
Subject: I have 100% Proof of where master chief is.

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omg i read all of that.......... and loved it! nice job!

  • 04.22.2008 10:07 PM PDT