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I heard Bungie stated that halo and marathon are set in different universes, and that all marathon links are easter eggs, also what happens if the portal was essentialy a giant pair of scissors, and when it colapsed it cut the other side off, almost compleatly, except a small bit in, which made it halfway?

  • 05.06.2008 9:29 AM PDT

woot.

im very impressed, and at the same time a little wierded out that you spent so much time on this.


if it is true, they should remake the marathon games for the 360

  • 05.06.2008 9:36 AM PDT
Subject: Where in the world in Master Chief?. An extensive scientific theory.

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Maybe they are the same universe, but finally not another theory saying Halo 4!

  • 05.06.2008 1:20 PM PDT
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So really the way that bungie made the game was meant to happen so it lines up with the game that inspired it. WOW.

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I'm so amazed as to how much popularity this thread has gotten.

I remember seeing it the first time. Thinking, "Oh wow, another Halo 4 thread, this one will just be ignored".

Then I started reading it, and soon, more and more observations, questions, and hypothesis' kept getting added to this thread. And basically, if someone has a feud about the Legendary ending, and/or Halo 4 others just send them the link to this amazing topic!

To me though, I still beleive their are more things to be added. I'm sure their are a whole bunch of hints about the next Halo series in the campaign levels. As well as some more easter eggs in the legendary ending.

I hope more people contribute. We are all very close to solving this mystery.

=)

  • 05.06.2008 3:13 PM PDT

You have all these rules, and you think they'll save you...

i have a theory...

MASTER CHIEF HAS ENTERED THE GECKO

  • 05.06.2008 3:20 PM PDT

Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. (quoted from J.F.K)

I skimmed threw this thread on MacAddict, seemed intresting enough. Not sure if it relates to what you guys are talking about. Nonetheless it's a good read.

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Posted by: phearmaker
It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.


btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.


NEW SUPPORTING EVIDENCE
FINALLY UPDATED

At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.

It also shows in the halo 3 permutation.
Take a look - Picture proof.
Side view / back view of the security helmet permutation ( adds the communication box )
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/securitycom side.jpg
And now the beginning of the legendary cutscene... You can clearly see the Com box floating with the cheif
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/?action=vie w&current=Securitycom.jpg


And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.
If you don't, You will be insulted. =]



As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.








some one may have betten me to this but here i go.

The ark was the so called "Sword"(if you read the halo books you will know what i am talking about) though some crazy means the MC is now at the so called "shield" world. The planet Onxy aka the shielded world is where all the S3 and some S2 are right now. yea thats about it

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Honestly i belive that bungie created this ending as a way to preserve master chief bungie has said that the halo series is done and that they will be making more games but with out master cheif. so what i think they are doing is ensuring that they have a way to bring him back instead of just killing him off in case the fans do not like their new game/s i belive that it is just a fail safe and that it probably won't have any significance unless bungie needs to revive halo, if bungie had ended it with master cheif " goign down with the ship" (or at least the back end) it probably would have worked out OK (it suits the chief, making a huge sacrifice to save the world) but instead they lessened the sacrifice just in case they need him again, a smart business move if you ask me. anyway that's just my thoughts.

  • 05.07.2008 1:50 PM PDT

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this is a really really good theory.


i find it interesting how bungie brought 2 series into one large thing

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Posted by: phearmaker
It seems that some people are not understanding why you see a nebula in the legendary ending.
MIKEFLOUNDERS said it best.
Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


Halo 3 takes place 200 YEARS before marathon, When master chief's part of the ship slips into the marathon universe, It is still the same exact year he was just in. He floats in space for 200 years until you see the colonized mars appear, And then get eclipsed by the sun eclipsing luna in the background.
This
Is
Not
A
Time
Travel
Theory.


btw,
ONYX ASPLODED.


NEW SUPPORTING EVIDENCE
FINALLY UPDATED

At the beginning of the legendary ending, Right where Cortana is awaking the chief from his little nap, You see a small object that looks just like the security com device that the security bots in marathon had.

It also shows in the halo 3 permutation.
Take a look - Picture proof.
Side view / back view of the security helmet permutation ( adds the communication box )
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/securitycom side.jpg
And now the beginning of the legendary cutscene... You can clearly see the Com box floating with the cheif
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/?action=vie w&current=Securitycom.jpg


And if you have a counter-theory, Then please support yourself with any type of source available, Pictures, Interviews, Anything except of rumors, Or what is widely believed without proof.
If you don't, You will be insulted. =]



As the frigate escaped through the portal, Cortana states that the portal collapsed just as they were going through.

Which means the other half that the arbiter was in, made it completely through.

It is my theory ( 100% positive in my head ) , That when the portal collapsed, It did so on the master chiefs side of the ship, Sending them into another universe. The arbiter is in the halo universe, In the same time, But chief + cortana are in the marathon universe.
You can also see a resemblance between the planet in the cut scene, and the planet image "Infestation" That was involved in part of IRIS.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9011/infestationsm1.jpg
This image was from server 2.

Look at the legendary cut scene, Look where the light originates from, Then look at that picture.
You are looking at an early mars, From the game marathon, With the sun eclipsing Luna, Which creates the big flash of light.

Do you want absolute proof that this is mars?
http://www.astro.su.se/~magnusg/SIRCA

THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT THERMAL IMAGES OF MARS THAT ARE IN THE INFESTATION PICTURE.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/Jspgameboy/UPDATEDDIAG RAM.jpg

KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FROM A TRUSTED GERMAN OBSERVATION SITE.
THESE ARE THE EXACT IMAGES.
BUNGIE WANTED US TO KNOW IT WAS MARS.
BECAUSE HALO RELAPSES INTO MARATHON!!!!!!!!



Some people think that MB sent master chief back into time, This is NOT possible, Why? In the last cutscene, Lord hood says " Its hard to believe he's dead ".
If MC would have in fact been sent back in time by Mendicant Bias, I am fairly sure that Master chief would have stopped the flood earlier, Which would mean that lord hood and arbiter would not have even been involved in an alliance.


The next game that bungie puts out will take place in this universe, They ended the story ark with the flood, And now they will make a game that involves the marathon story ark.

Another thing, Cortana and chief do not know that they are in an alternate universe, They think that somebody will find them. But think about this, Being since the arbiter escaped through the portal completely, He must be in the same exact place as the chief, BUT IN THE HALO UNIVERSE. WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE BELIEVES THE MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD. THEY BELIEVE THAT HIS SIDE OF THE SHIP WAS DESTROYED, BUT IN FACT IT IS IN THE MARATHON UNIVERSE.

This has renewed my faith in bungie writers, Well played.

And to people that say this theory isnt possible because of the different universe thing, in the game Marathon Infinity, the main character can travel between universes and dimensions.

Trogdor404 said it best: ( I did not quote because one of my older threads got locked for quoting too many people )

1. Marathon takes place on a ship called marathon, but the ship is actually a hollowed out moon of Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^
I never put that in bold, wtf?
2. The Iris and the Mars photos are exact, meaning Bungie meant for Mars to be somewhere in the game, and look at the iris pictures, everything lines up with the legendary pictures.

Also more supporting evidence:
Posted by: cornage
Okay, To get this thread started, this is another one of those "Post your theories" threads, but I think this one goes deep. I wondered about IRIS and what it meant after Halo 3, so I watched the server videos, got most of the IRIS info. to be "as stocked up on my halo 3 ending skills" as possible... but I still didn't get it... I was stumped. I decided to go through the last server video one more time, because I thought it was the most revealing of them all. IT WAS. I was watching the last video, but slowing it down a couple of notches... I think I found some serious reference to the future of the series. Marathon is the answer. Now Don't leave, I know how many of you hate the idea of "The Marathon theory" and how bungie would never do that... but this info. seems to push it with bungie and their "marathon references" for fans. I Don't even like the idea that much, but this has me teetering on the fence about the future of the series:

As I was watching the last server video from the IRIS (ARG) and these are extremely fast frames, but I think that I caught a picture of a Phfor enforcer and a Compiler (Marathon 2). I'm serious, it changing my whole outlook on the future of the series, and I suggest you all review those videos of IRIS.

When viewing, the MARATHON CONCEPT ART is on left, while the IRIS PHOTO is on the right.

Compiler: Click Here

And the Enforcer:Click Here

The compiler is slightly viewed from and angle, looks as if it is sitting on a throne, and the enforcer is getting disentigrated from his right, facing us.

The enforcer photo may have something to do with the Forerunner/ Flood war, as it is right after the frame where " but If we fail (if the forerunner fail to save the earth)". Post what you think.







Very, very good Phearmaker and you supplied proof which is excellent.

I always had a feeling marathon was coming after halo 3. There are just to many things that are similar. If you have played marathon you will KNOW just how many things are near enough exactly the same between the two games and your post has just stengthend my thoughts.

Awsome topic, im glad this was stuck (and that might mean possible recognition by bungie by sticking it too?)

  • 05.07.2008 4:23 PM PDT
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I'd QFT, but hell, I'm not making another wall of text for you guys to scroll though.

  • 05.07.2008 4:25 PM PDT

Please reply to this, as I have a serious question. Not scornful.

What I thought happened was this: There is a portal leading from the Ark to Earth. Arbiter's side of the ship got through, the portal closed, Master Chief got left behind, and was hit by the blast from the exploding Halo.

Now Arbiter returned to Earth, and Master Chief is floating in space, at the same place that the Arbiter just was. Next to the exploded Ark. Where else?

There is a planet there. He lands on it. They haven't told us what the planet is.

I thought that was accepted.

As for the marathon stuff, they have that everywhere. I don't think it is significant. The Monitor has a Marathan symbol for a face.

ONCE AGAIN, SOMEBODY PLEASE ADDRESS MY CONCERNS.

  • 05.07.2008 10:03 PM PDT

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Please reply to this, as I have a serious question. Not scornful.

What I thought happened was this: There is a portal leading from the Ark to Earth. Arbiter's side of the ship got through, the portal closed, Master Chief got left behind, and was hit by the blast from the exploding Halo.

Now Arbiter returned to Earth, and Master Chief is floating in space, at the same place that the Arbiter just was. Next to the exploded Ark. Where else?

There is a planet there. He lands on it. They haven't told us what the planet is.

I thought that was accepted.

As for the marathon stuff, they have that everywhere. I don't think it is significant. The Monitor has a Marathan symbol for a face.

ONCE AGAIN, SOMEBODY PLEASE ADDRESS MY CONCERNS.


There are different theroys as to what happened to MC. One theory is the one that this whole thread is about. While other theroys think that what MC is going to is a Shield World. Shield Worlds are Worlds that were suppose to protect the Forerunners from the blast of the Halo Rings. Others think it's Earth but years in the future. A lot of things as to what happened. No one really knows what MC is going torwads. Only Bungie knows at this time. I don't think Bungie is going to continue Halo. I have heard that Peter Jackson will continue the Halo series Im not sure if he's going to continue from were Halo 3 ended or it'll be Prolouges before the events of Halo. I honestly don't know. You'll need to find someone who has a better idea as to whats going to happen.

  • 05.08.2008 8:10 AM PDT

Just have a read of my Halo 3 Epilogue story for my view.

  • 05.08.2008 10:34 AM PDT
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The ark was the so called "Sword"(if you read the halo books you will know what i am talking about) though some crazy means the MC is now at the so called "shield" world. The planet Onxy aka the shielded world is where all the S3 and some S2 are right now. yea thats about it
Onyx was completely destroyed at the end of Ghosts of Onyx. The surviving Spartans are within the Micro Dyson Sphere, which resides at the center of the former-planet Onyx. This Micro Dyson Sphere is noted in the novel to be only a few meters in diameter from an outside view, due to it being encased within a slipspace bubble of compressed dimensionality. So, the thing we see at the end of the Legendary Ending has a 0% chance of being either Onyx or the Micro Dyson Sphere.

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Posted by: MIKEFLOUNDERS
Small Magellanic Cloud is 200,000 light years away from our galaxy ,our galaxy is 100,000 light years across so the radius is 50,000 light years so 2.5 galactic radius would be 150,000 light years to where chief is and 50.000 light years the the small magellanic cloud in the back ground so he is prity much still in our universe and in marathon you tack off from earth in the marathon as a secruity guard....


i have a problem with this. youre math is totally off. im assuming when talking about the nebula being 200,000 light years away youre speaking from the center of our galaxy. what im confused about is where you go from 2.5 galactic radii (250,000 light years) to 150,000 light years to where chief is. its impossible (the way you worded it) for the chief to be 150,000 light years away yet still be in our galaxy. you may want to reconsider editing your word choice because the way you word it makes absolutely no sense at all. maybe im just crazy but personally i dont see how your math is correct at all.

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i have a problem with this. youre math is totally off. im assuming when talking about the nebula being 200,000 light years away youre speaking from the center of our galaxy. what im confused about is where you go from 2.5 galactic radii (250,000 light years) to 150,000 light years to where chief is. its impossible (the way you worded it) for the chief to be 150,000 light years away yet still be in our galaxy. you may want to reconsider editing your word choice because the way you word it makes absolutely no sense at all. maybe im just crazy but personally i dont see how your math is correct at all.
He said still in our universe, not still in our galaxy.

  • 05.08.2008 11:09 AM PDT

Love is our weapon. <3

Good job!

This is the only theory that makes sense.

  • 05.08.2008 11:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.


What he said.
Honestly, it seems like a load of crap.

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Posted by: mikexvx
nice try, but you are wrong.


What he said.
Honestly, it seems like a load of crap.
Well, would you care to propose a counter-argument to the evidence he provided? Some of it is insubstantial and mixed with assumption, but other parts, such as the mars infrared screencap matching the Legendary Ending is pretty solid. I don't see how you can deny it.

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you have no life
but you are also wrong
master chief clearly got frozen and is dreaming
or he ids dead and this empty void he used to know as space is his hell.
or i could just be saying this to piss you off

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Dude is only a game.

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Personally i started playing bungie games at the age of... i belive 6, it was Marathon Durandal, i know for a fact most of you have never played all 750+ levels of the Marathon Trilogy(based that number off the 250 levels, give or take a few, in Durandal or Infinity, cant remember) so trithfully u have no right to say anything about the theory that the 2 are connected. I completely agree with the theory that has started this topic, the only problem with it is the size of the object at the end because it doesent seem to line up with the size of marathon. But whose to say that isnt a Pfhor ship? If i do recall i never saw a Pfhor ship or planet, well maybe a planet but whose to say that object at the end of Halo 3 couldnt be? Thus for you people that are uneducated about the story of Marathon i guide to here! http://marathon.bungie.org/story/
and to reply to this please deter from using the words "YOUR RONG", "THERE IS NO WAY", or "BUNGIE SAID SO", (because i dont ever remembering reading in the terms of agreement that Bungie has no right to lie to you) if you cannot back up your reasons as to why.

  • 05.09.2008 7:25 PM PDT