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lil poison looks freaky

  • 10.24.2007 4:57 PM PDT

Raiden, whether people who are "making all nicey about " mlg are kids or not, it is you who is being childish and not them.

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  • 10.24.2007 4:57 PM PDT

Posted by: CovertPEteRSen9
I personally hate MLG with a passion! I don't understand how bungie can back people who exploit glitches and ruin the game for their fans. I mean they've already found ways to cheat the system. How can Bungie endorse them?


Simply because in the competitive world they are not looked at as exploiting a glitch. They are looked at as a highly competitive aspect of the game. It prevents people from making blind rushes into close range combat. They now have to use more tactics and smarts to avoid getting BxRed and vice versa. Now every move you make has to be thought out and planned. A small thing such as BxR and doubleshot makes halo more based on tactics,teamwork, tactical awareness, and skill to survive. Not just rushing in and getting random kills.



I guarantee all of you that all the H2 pros will be fine in H3. MLG never has been and never will be about button glitches. MLG always has been and always will be about playing competitive gaming at its highest level of teamwork,skill, and tactics.

  • 10.24.2007 4:59 PM PDT

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I am smart enough to know that anti-MLG flaming will get you banned..... so watch what you say.

I enjoy playing casually. If I ever thought of playing professionally, I think I would have to check myself into an asylum. Playing the same gametype for hours is not my thing.

  • 10.24.2007 5:00 PM PDT

If you're swimming in a creek, and an eel bites your feet - that's a moray.

My feelings on MLG aside (they have their uses, despite their egos), I am saddened at the implied condoning of "Lil Poison" and his gameplay.

This is a nine-year-old.

He, and anyone else under the age of 17, has no business playing an M-rated game - much less being a member of a "professional" organization.

Most tournaments - casual or otherwise - require players to be over the age of 18 to play, nevermind the minimum age required to purchase this game.

I don't get it.

MLG, whatver. Underage gamers? This should in no way be condoned, and should in no way be encouraged. By posting images and accounts of playing this game with a -blam!- fourth-grader, Bungie has done both.

I wonder if "Lil Poison" played Gears of War (with all its profanity and gore)...

So shame be upon you, Bungie, for exalting the poor parenting so prevalent today, and for your implication that it's okay for children to play M-rated games. By this same implication, I suppose Bungie also supports under-aged drinking, under-aged viewing of X-rated material, under-aged smoking, etc.

Sure, you say, that's preposterous, but why is it that the Halo series is rated "M" in the first place? Could Bungie not have removed and/or altered content to achieve an "E", or even a "T" rating?

Absolutely.

But they didn't.

This suggests that they wanted an "M" rating, or that they at the least didn't want to edit their game to reduce its rating.

So, they clearly don't believe in the rating system, and clearly condone under-age gaming with respect to their, and evidently other, "M" rated games.

Thanks.

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  • 10.24.2007 5:02 PM PDT

Posted by: LikeYouCare
Look at your comment, now back to mine.Now back at your comment now back to mine. Sadly it isn't mine, but if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate comments it could look like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, writing the comment your comment could look like. What did you post? Back at mine, it's a reply saying something you want to hear. Look again the reply is now diamonds.

Posted by: Sp Dark Killer
Who doesn't like MLG


Edit: Oh yeah Noobs

Says the guy who has a social K/D ratio thats almost the same as my ranked K/D.

Think before you post buddy. MLG sucks because while they may not need glitches to win, they still use them. Thats just bad form.

  • 10.24.2007 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Raiden627
MLG is crap, pure and simple. People on here making all nicey about them are most likely kids, or fanboys trying to suck up. MLG isn't hardcore, sitting in your house playing a game isn't hardcore. I like bungie, I really do admire the work they've done, but don't support that whole faux underground bs, that M$ tries to perpetuate. Drop these punks in the middle of a real combat or for that fact any real life situation and watch them fail horribly. To the parent that bought their kid that game, you know what? that's your business if you want your 9 year old playing a M rated game, but don't be F****** parading photos of it around on the internet, that's all idiots like Jack Thompson and Hilary Clinton need to further their agendas. Flame if you must, but hey, experience has made me bitter, towards a group of glitching elitist punks, that probably couldn't even aim a real gun.


Wow, are you seriously comparing real life combat and shooting firearms to a video game??
Do you actually think all these "elitest punks" became good at Halo 2 ONLY because they found button glitches to exploit??
Have you even played against some of the top ranked pros??

Sorry, I'll stop asking questions.
Your post is just pure and simple ignorance.

It's obvious that you are oblivious as to what makes these players so good.
If you don't like the way competitve Halo is played, don't cry about it in here.

It's the way professionals play the game. And just like any other professional competition, over time, it evolves.

Here is a simple example for you to grasp: When the sport of American Football was first created it was SEVERAL years down the road before the forward pass was introduced to the game. Imagine what adding that one dimension did to the way the game was played.
Does the game we see played today resemble what it started out to be? Of course, but new ideas and approaches have changed it drastically from what it was first intended to be.

Go show your ignorance somewhere else.

  • 10.24.2007 5:10 PM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

Glad people can finally see what MLG is about. Glad Bungie is backing them up. This is a good thing.

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Posted by: Raiden627
MLG is crap, pure and simple. People on here making all nicey about them are most likely kids, or fanboys trying to suck up. MLG isn't hardcore, sitting in your house playing a game isn't hardcore. I like bungie, I really do admire the work they've done, but don't support that whole faux underground bs, that M$ tries to perpetuate. Drop these punks in the middle of a real combat or for that fact any real life situation and watch them fail horribly. To the parent that bought their kid that game, you know what? that's your business if you want your 9 year old playing a M rated game, but don't be F****** parading photos of it around on the internet, that's all idiots like Jack Thompson and Hilary Clinton need to further their agendas. Flame if you must, but hey, experience has made me bitter, towards a group of glitching elitist punks, that probably couldn't even aim a real gun.


Wow, are you seriously comparing real life combat and shooting firearms to a video game??
Do you actually think all these "elitest punks" became good at Halo 2 ONLY because they found button glitches to exploit??
Have you even played against some of the top ranked pros??

Sorry, I'll stop asking questions.
Your post is just pure and simple ignorance.

It's obvious that you are oblivious as to what makes these players so good.
If you don't like the way competitve Halo is played, don't cry about it in here.

It's the way professionals play the game. And just like any other professional competition, over time, it evolves.

Here is a simple example for you to grasp: When the sport of American Football was first created it was SEVERAL years down the road before the forward pass was introduced to the game. Imagine what adding that one dimension did to the way the game was played.
Does the game we see played today resemble what it started out to be? Of course, but new ideas and approaches have changed it drastically from what it was first intended to be.

Go show your ignorance somewhere else.


QFT

The ignorance in three pages of this thread is astounding. So many uninformed people writing as if their opinions are truth, with absoultly no idea of who lil poision is or how mlg has evolved in it's 4yr existence. They decided to hate early on and haven't taken any time to watch and learn. MLG made me a better player and my stats back up that statement. Watching an MLG event is more fun than any sport out there minus football. Baseball and basketball are consumable only through sportscenter highlights. 4v4's with the top 8 teams are intense.

but anyway hopefully somemore ppl will come whine about the glitches, which they can't get down i bet.

  • 10.24.2007 5:20 PM PDT
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That kid is a beast.

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hey stan :) this is lp dad. as long as i say he can play he can play. the competitive side of the game is no way M (thats my opinion). and besides its the parents decision and not yours to choose or assume what kids could or can't play. the rating system is set for stores not to sell particular games to younger gamers but for the parents to do so if they see the game is suitable for their child to play. its no way a law stating that they can not play at all. he is no way allowed to play any game of his choosing. i as a parent always review and go over everything that he plays, watches and hears. and its not only video games.(documentary coming soon :) )

anyways thanks for having such a great game. the halo game has kept our family and many other families and friends come together and also keeping a lot of kids out of the street doing things that parents aren't there to visually see. and also thanks to mlg for a great 4+ years.

Vic
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My feelings on MLG aside (they have their uses, despite their egos), I am saddened at the implied condoning of "Lil Poison" and his gameplay.

This is a nine-year-old.

He, and anyone else under the age of 17, has no business playing an M-rated game - much less being a member of a "professional" organization.

Most tournaments - casual or otherwise - require players to be over the age of 18 to play, nevermind the minimum age required to purchase this game.

I don't get it.

MLG, whatver. Underage gamers? This should in no way be condoned, and should in no way be encouraged. By posting images and accounts of playing this game with a -blam!- fourth-grader, Bungie has done both.

I wonder if "Lil Poison" played Gears of War (with all its profanity and gore)...

So shame be upon you, Bungie, for exalting the poor parenting so prevalent today, and for your implication that it's okay for children to play M-rated games. By this same implication, I suppose Bungie also supports under-aged drinking, under-aged viewing of X-rated material, under-aged smoking, etc.

Sure, you say, that's preposterous, but why is it that the Halo series is rated "M" in the first place? Could Bungie not have removed and/or altered content to achieve an "E", or even a "T" rating?

Absolutely.

But they didn't.

This suggests that they wanted an "M" rating, or that they at the least didn't want to edit their game to reduce its rating.

So, they clearly don't believe in the rating system, and clearly condone under-age gaming with respect to their, and evidently other, "M" rated games.

Thanks.

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[Edited on 10.24.2007 5:34 PM PDT]

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before you criticize something for everyone to see, you could at least look into what you're talking about.

everyone under 18 must get a parent/guardian to sign a consent form. there, chapstick's "argument" is dis-proven.

if you honestly believe that only people over the age of 17 get halo, you're probably one of the most naive people i've ever had the pleasure of debunking.

secondly, everyone that says an MLG player is unable to adapt to other styles of play have probably never had the chance to play with an mlg player. almost any good player you find in matchmaking is at least familiar with the mlg settings. ask the next person that beats you if they do. mlg uses the br start to emphasize skill. if you think that running around with your trigger down aiming at someones torso defines skill, i truly feel sorry for you. a lot of the members of this forum need to play some MLG players just to open their eyes. everyone thinks they are at least decent but that word is relative. MLG will surely make you aware of that.

last, but most definitely not least, it is AWESOME to see bungie at an MLG and truly appreciate what goes on at the events. i can't tell you how great it was to read that they actually realized how good the players are at the events and how organized and professional they are.

good stuff.

  • 10.24.2007 5:37 PM PDT
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since i have a different account for halo 3 multi player
i have no proof of my skills

but i am a formidable advisary.
i would love to play lil poison.
i would love to kill him and give him the ole tea bag,
but all do respect LP. you cant reign forever.

im the next prodigy.

but then again i need to p;lay "better" people to say that.
anyways. this comnet left by chapstick...omfgz.........
My feelings on MLG aside (they have their uses, despite their egos), I am saddened at the implied condoning of "Lil Poison" and his gameplay.

This is a nine-year-old.

He, and anyone else under the age of 17, has no business playing an M-rated game - much less being a member of a "professional" organization.

Most tournaments - casual or otherwise - require players to be over the age of 18 to play, nevermind the minimum age required to purchase this game.

I don't get it.

MLG, whatver. Underage gamers? This should in no way be condoned, and should in no way be encouraged. By posting images and accounts of playing this game with a -blam!- fourth-grader, Bungie has done both.

I wonder if "Lil Poison" played Gears of War (with all its profanity and gore)...

So shame be upon you, Bungie, for exalting the poor parenting so prevalent today, and for your implication that it's okay for children to play M-rated games. By this same implication, I suppose Bungie also supports under-aged drinking, under-aged viewing of X-rated material, under-aged smoking, etc.

Sure, you say, that's preposterous, but why is it that the Halo series is rated "M" in the first place? Could Bungie not have removed and/or altered content to achieve an "E", or even a "T" rating?

Absolutely.

But they didn't.

This suggests that they wanted an "M" rating, or that they at the least didn't want to edit their game to reduce its rating.

So, they clearly don't believe in the rating system, and clearly condone under-age gaming with respect to their, and evidently other, "M" rated games.

Thanks.

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excuse me!
i am below 17 and i play w/e the heelz i wants!
its called M for mature because parents or pplz like you
dont accept children being good at something....
how dispicable.......let LP reign his power as long as he lives.
until i headshot that fool with my snipes......hehe jp.
but i want to.

[Edited on 10.24.2007 5:46 PM PDT]

  • 10.24.2007 5:41 PM PDT

I quite like the idea of MLG players not playin Halo 3 so as not to dilute their Halo 2 skills.

That means for the moment we've still got a chance of taking em :)

Played in the WCG on H2 a couple of years ago. Came up against some real pros. Nothing is more humbling.

Though we were the mutts nuts........til we got served our butts.


Also, dont knock pro gaming too much. In 10 years time its gonna be the offset for crazy game dev costs. TV licensing and all that jazz.

Otherwise we're gonna be payin $100 a game.

  • 10.24.2007 5:43 PM PDT

Posted by: C Dirty 4
Reach essentially has put the "I" in "Team".


Remember, the enemy's gate is down

LOL.

3 Pages of "OMGZ MLG Sucks because I can't aim a rifle."

  • 10.24.2007 6:23 PM PDT

Men, we've led these dumb bugs out to the middle of nowhere to keep from getting their filthy claws on earth, but, we stumbled on to something that's so hot for them, that they're scrambling over each other to get it. Well, I don't care if it's God's own anti-son-of-a-b*tch machine, or a giant hola-hoop, we ain't gonna let them have it. What we will let them have, is a belly full of lead, and a pool of their own blood to drown in!

Posted by: HaVOk1228
LOL.

3 Pages of "OMGZ MLG Sucks because I can't aim a rifle."


yeah mon, nuff said

  • 10.24.2007 6:25 PM PDT

Men, we've led these dumb bugs out to the middle of nowhere to keep from getting their filthy claws on earth, but, we stumbled on to something that's so hot for them, that they're scrambling over each other to get it. Well, I don't care if it's God's own anti-son-of-a-b*tch machine, or a giant hola-hoop, we ain't gonna let them have it. What we will let them have, is a belly full of lead, and a pool of their own blood to drown in!

Oh yeah, FB and the Ogres are gonna SUCK SOME FLOPPY DONKEY D1CK when MLG turns to Halo 3....... and it's gonna be freakin HILARIOUS!!!

(No more sweep sniping Walsh!!!)

  • 10.24.2007 6:34 PM PDT

If you're swimming in a creek, and an eel bites your feet - that's a moray.

Posted by: nyleon00
hey stan :) this is lp dad. as long as i say he can play he can play. the competitive side of the game is no way M (thats my opinion). and besides its the parents decision and not yours to choose or assume what kids could or can't play. the rating system is set for stores not to sell particular games to younger gamers but for the parents to do so if they see the game is suitable for their child to play. its no way a law stating that they can not play at all. he is no way allowed to play any game of his choosing. i as a parent always review and go over everything that he plays, watches and hears. and its not only video games.(documentary coming soon :) )

anyways thanks for having such a great game. the halo game has kept our family and many other families and friends come together and also keeping a lot of kids out of the street doing things that parents aren't there to visually see. and also thanks to mlg for a great 4+ years.

Vic


You are absolutely right, Vic. I'm sure that with your valiant parenting efforts, young Victor is capable of reading and writing like any other nine-year-old, just as you do.

I applaud your efforts at filtering the potentially harmful input to which Victor is exposed, but the fact is that you cannot succeed, and based on your actions to date, you're actively failing. Unless you are in his presence 24/7, and have some sort of precognition which tells you when to cover his eyes and/or ears, then you will inevitably fail. See no evil, indeed.

As a parent myself, I understand full well the difficulties inherent in raising children (I have two), and that one must temper isolation with explanation in order to be reasonably successful. Since explanation without understanding is useless, there is a modicum of experience (read: age) necessary before a given type of input can be set loose upon the child. I pride myself in being able to answer the never-ending string of "whys" that my children offer up - but that is only because I understand both the question and the answer. Without a sound education (in a given subject) of your own, it is not possible to give useful advice, answers, or knowledge to your children (with regard to that subject).

How can we expect a parent incapable of spelling and grammar past the elementary level to be able to assist a child in learning to spell and/or use grammar beyond the same level?

No, the rating system is not enforced by any law - indeed, a given store could sell the most disturbing video game to a child that it wanted with no repercussion - but no, that does not mean that "M" rated games are de facto suitable for children to play. You imply the same by saying that "he is no way allowed to play any game of his choosing" [sic]. You admit by correlation that there are games which are unsuitable.

I wonder just how much your [son's] sponsorship revenue determines whether a game is deemed "suitable" or not by your exacting standards... Besides, I'm sure the MLG events are completely free from profanity, alcohol, tobacco, etc...

Anyway, this is all second to the main issue, which is that Bungie endorsed the playing of their game by children. They should not have done so, and should instead have distanced themselves from that aspect. By embracing under-aged gaming, they undermined the intent behind the rating system, and actively encouraged other under-aged gamers to play "M" rated games.

Good job, both of you.

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  • 10.24.2007 6:39 PM PDT

If you're swimming in a creek, and an eel bites your feet - that's a moray.

Posted by: heathderr
since i have a different account for halo 3 multi player
i have no proof of my skills

but i am a formidable advisary.
i would love to play lil poison.
i would love to kill him and give him the ole tea bag,
but all do respect LP. you cant reign forever.

im the next prodigy.

but then again i need to p;lay "better" people to say that.
anyways. this comnet left by chapstick...omfgz.........

. . .
[My own post removed for space]
. . .

excuse me!
i am below 17 and i play w/e the heelz i wants!
its called M for mature because parents or pplz like you
dont accept children being good at something....
how dispicable.......let LP reign his power as long as he lives.
until i headshot that fool with my snipes......hehe jp.
but i want to.


Okay, child, thanks for proving my various points in one illiterate ramble. Do your parents know you're using the computer forum posting rather than doing your homework?

Charles Lindbergh was the first person to fly across the Atlantic (that's an ocean - a bunch of water) in an airplane (you know, with wings, but not a bird). It (the airplane - undeclared pronouns typically refer to the most recent noun used) was called "The Spirit of St. Louis" (St. Louis is a city in Missouri, a state), and landed in Paris, France (Paris is the largest city, and capital, of the European (stop giggling) country called France.

I hope that helps you complete your third grade history project...

i have no proof of my skills

Of that, I have no doubt.

Idiot.

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  • 10.24.2007 6:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Chapstick
My feelings on MLG aside (they have their uses, despite their egos), I am saddened at the implied condoning of "Lil Poison" and his gameplay.

This is a nine-year-old.

He, and anyone else under the age of 17, has no business playing an M-rated game - much less being a member of a "professional" organization.

Most tournaments - casual or otherwise - require players to be over the age of 18 to play, nevermind the minimum age required to purchase this game.

I don't get it.

MLG, whatver. Underage gamers? This should in no way be condoned, and should in no way be encouraged. By posting images and accounts of playing this game with a -blam!- fourth-grader, Bungie has done both.

I wonder if "Lil Poison" played Gears of War (with all its profanity and gore)...

So shame be upon you, Bungie, for exalting the poor parenting so prevalent today, and for your implication that it's okay for children to play M-rated games. By this same implication, I suppose Bungie also supports under-aged drinking, under-aged viewing of X-rated material, under-aged smoking, etc.

Sure, you say, that's preposterous, but why is it that the Halo series is rated "M" in the first place? Could Bungie not have removed and/or altered content to achieve an "E", or even a "T" rating?

Absolutely.

But they didn't.

This suggests that they wanted an "M" rating, or that they at the least didn't want to edit their game to reduce its rating.

So, they clearly don't believe in the rating system, and clearly condone under-age gaming with respect to their, and evidently other, "M" rated games.

Thanks.

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Here's a few things to consider:

1 - The M rating does not make it illegal for a minor to play an M rated game. A Minor can purchase an M rated game with parental consent.

2 - Minors can participate in MLG events only with parental consent.

3 - Lil Poison's Uncle, Poison, is a PC professional gamer. Serious gaming is one of their family customs.

4 - Obviously, Lil Poison has consent from his legal guardian(s) to both play M-rated titles and to participate at MLG events.

[Edited on 10.24.2007 7:01 PM PDT]

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First off everyone needs to get off their high horse and accept that there is more than one way to play Halo. Just because YOU like matchmaking and dislike competitive play does not mean that everyone who disagrees is wrong. This is addressed to both sides, because there are immature members of both communities.

People who dislike MLG- many of you are uninformed about the organization. It does not endorse button glitches, but it allows them to be used in competitive tournament matches when they are available to all players equally. MLG is not one gametype played over and over, as there are Oddball, King, Slayer, and Capture the Flag variants. Don't knock something that you haven't tried.

Fellow MLG community members- Please don't insult matchmaking players, it's their choice to play or not to play.

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halo 3 in mlg would be sick. it would be a packed house every event. CAN'T WAIT!!!

  • 10.24.2007 7:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Fuzzy McDoodle
I know that kid, we were really good friends way back when Halo 2 came out. He got into MLG but for the 3 years he was on my friends list, I beat him everytime I played 1 on 1 with him


Wow you are such a loser. Lil poison has been going to events since the halo 1 days.

  • 10.24.2007 7:47 PM PDT