Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: h2v unbearably slow.
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Just got h2v yesterday. installed using custom game installation.
went to test it out on single player... and i couldn't play it it was so slow.
very jumpy, like watching a slide show or something...

Computer specs:
Athlon XP 3000+ (oc'd to around 2.89 ghz)
1.5 gb ram
GForce 6800 XT 512Mb ram AGP8x
vista ultimate
300gb hd.


all newest drivers off of www.nvidia.com and also installed hotfixes listed to help vista users with nvidia cards.

no such luck. all live updates installed. current soundcard drivers installed.

i'm just confused. Is halo 2 really that big of a hog????
it could run on an xbox which has 1/5th the computer power this pc does -.-
any help is appreciated.

thanks.

  • 10.25.2007 2:13 PM PDT

Its poorly optimized. I have this problem every now and then. Its hard to tell the Difference between Medium and High Detail. So... if your on high, give medium a try.


OH LAWD o_O a rhyme.

  • 10.25.2007 2:36 PM PDT
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all my settings are on Low the lowest resolution and detail.

did do "force vsync" on my nvidia control panel..

helped a tad.

still frustrated...

  • 10.25.2007 2:46 PM PDT

Make Vsnyc Forced off.

  • 10.25.2007 3:27 PM PDT
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tried that too.

  • 10.25.2007 3:35 PM PDT
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Like wakeboy said, it's a poorly optimized game. (given, like Halo 1 was/is)
I think you're going to have to deal man. You have a decent system and TBH I think you should be getting more for your money. if you have everything on lowest setttings and you've updated like you said, I don't know how to help you except to maybe try it on XP if you were smart enough to dual boot.

[Edited on 10.25.2007 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 10.25.2007 4:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Ryanman7
Like wakeboy said, it's a poorly optimized game. (given, like Halo 1 was/is)
I think you're going to have to deal man. You have a decent system and TBH I think you should be getting more for your money. if you have everything on lowest setttings and you've updated like you said, I don't know how to help you except to maybe try it on XP if you were smart enough to dual boot.


Yeah try it on xp
I mean you own Vista and you own Halo 2 so you shouldnt be breaking any rules.
You wont have any multiplayer however :'{

[Edited on 10.25.2007 5:35 PM PDT]

  • 10.25.2007 5:35 PM PDT
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yes, i dual boot.

and haloPC runs perfectly....


My dad works for MS so i was talking to him about it and due to the fact that i had just installed Vista Ultimate and waiting on a product key...
he said they might have some kind of throttle back on the system performance until you enter the key......

and h2v runs on xp? new news to me....

he also mentioned my RAM, because i recently got a gig to upgrade from the 512 i had.
that the speeds of the ram differ and i have the newer one in slot 1 instead of 0 which could cause the newer ram to run at
a lower speed.

so.. i if i can figure this out i'll post an update...

thanks for the help.

  • 10.25.2007 9:50 PM PDT
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You shouldn't mix and match different kinds of RAM, it may cause unexpected consequences. Also, if possible, upgrading to a PCI-E video card will help some.

  • 10.25.2007 9:55 PM PDT

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
You shouldn't mix and match different kinds of RAM, it may cause unexpected consequences. Also, if possible, upgrading to a PCI-E video card will help some.

True true true. PCI-E video cards are a lot faster than AGP graphics card thanx to improved technology. And get the same kind of RAM.

  • 10.25.2007 10:00 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Also, you may want to ditch the page file. It works, trust me.


H2V's performance has to do with bad drivers. Notice how it runs significantly better on XP. Through a couple more updates, it may run better. Hopefully.

  • 10.26.2007 6:29 AM PDT

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
You shouldn't mix and match different kinds of RAM,


Some of us are too poor to get 2 gigs of matching ram D:


I know I need to

I have 4 sticks of ddr1 ram at a total of 1.5 gigs

No 2 sticks are the same brand and they all run at 266Mhz :{

  • 10.26.2007 8:04 AM PDT
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It could be a conflicting background program, try running a Selective Startup.
Details in the sticky.

  • 10.26.2007 9:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ranksmell


My dad works for MS so i was talking to him about it and due to the fact that i had just installed Vista Ultimate and waiting on a product key...
he said they might have some kind of throttle back on the system performance until you enter the key......

and h2v runs on xp? new news to me....



There's "patches" on the net that will do it. Fix your stick order... the 1gb in slot 0 and the 512 in slot 2 (if you have 4 slots)
I seriously doubt they have a throttle on performance. I'd put my doubt at around 99.9% (I wouldn't put it past micro soft but I haven't heard that ANYWHERE)

And of course HPC runs perfectly.. it requires way less computing power : /

  • 10.26.2007 2:23 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

The DDR RAM is the bottleneck. Eliminate it, get a new board and some DDR2 RAM.

  • 10.27.2007 8:20 AM PDT
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Vincent, I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I haven't heard ANYONE say that DDR is a bottleneck. It's the same thing with PCI-E 2.0. We have only gotten really close to the bandwidth of AGP just recently. The technology industry is going to force new standards sometimes: I've accepted that. There's no reason for him to upgrade his entire platform for something I'd be willing to bet a huge amount of money is less of a bottleneck than his CPU and the game itself.

  • 10.28.2007 2:15 PM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: vincent5
The DDR RAM is the bottleneck. Eliminate it, get a new board and some DDR2 RAM.

DDR + 8800 GTX Is a far better choice than the fastest system with DDR2 + something slow like an x1300, all other things equal.

  • 10.28.2007 4:43 PM PDT
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Your mom's unbearably slow OSNAPIMAEDTEHNOTHERFUNNAYZ1!11!!!11!Shift+One!11!!!

Sorry.

  • 10.28.2007 6:18 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

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Posted by: vincent5
The DDR RAM is the bottleneck. Eliminate it, get a new board and some DDR2 RAM.

DDR + 8800 GTX Is a far better choice than the fastest system with DDR2 + something slow like an x1300, all other things equal.


Well the problem he was describing sounded like a RAM issue and I just pointed out what I thought was the problem.

DDR2 is superior. Someone find contrary evidence and shut me up before this becomes a technologically verbose thread.

  • 10.29.2007 10:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

So what if DDR2 is faster, it doesn't make what you said the correct solution. He has a slow video card and a slow processor.

  • 10.31.2007 1:47 PM PDT
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I fixed the lag problems, even though it tends to still be a little slow in the loading times.

turns out i had a gadget that was eating up CPU/Memory.
it was also described in another forum as "malicious"
so... got rid of that.

still looks like crap and occasionally will slow up in some situations
but overall. its playable.
but I got my 360 back from repair. so I'm not going to play all that much.
yay gh3 :P

  • 11.01.2007 11:38 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

Posted by: staticx576
So what if DDR2 is faster, it doesn't make what you said the correct solution. He has a slow video card and a slow processor.


The video card and processor were fine. The game will run medium settings easily if the RAM was DDR2.

  • 11.02.2007 10:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Posted by: vincent5
Posted by: staticx576
So what if DDR2 is faster, it doesn't make what you said the correct solution. He has a slow video card and a slow processor.


The video card and processor were fine. The game will run medium settings easily if the RAM was DDR2.


The ram has very -blam!- little to do with running the game aside from the amount of ram. Are you really this -blam!- close minded to not see this. It is WAY more important to have more ram rather than faster ram when running games. As I said before your CPU+GPU matter a lot more than what TYPE of ram you have. Get it through your head. Give me a processor paired with DDR and an 8800 GTX over something really -blam!- pained with a really -blam!- video card but with DDR2 ANY DAY.

  • 11.02.2007 11:51 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

H2V is very RAM intensive. If the operating system is busy loading into slow RAM, game performance will drop. However with DDR2, bandwidth is increased as well as transfer speed.

1GB DDR2 RAM > 2GB DDR RAM.

Otherwise, why would people bother to buy DDR 3 RAM?

  • 11.03.2007 12:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Forget it, you dont seem to understand a -blam!- thing. If this guy was running out of ram with 1.5 gigs imagine how much faster he would run with even less ram? the harddrive is a hell of a lot slower than either ram type. And who is running out ot get ddr3 ram anyways?

  • 11.03.2007 12:31 AM PDT

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