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Subject: Halo 3 rank problem!

well i've been losing a few games and winning alot of games in halo 3, in the past 20 games or so
and ive been having a really high k/d ratio lately, and i stil havent been going up in ranks
like last nite i played 10 games won 7 of them and i had k/d ratio every game from +4 to +14 and i dint even go up a rank
then i lose 1 game with a +5 k/d ratio and i go down a rank
then today i go on won all games out of 5 and had k/d ratio +3 to +8 and stil no rank up
i think ther is a problem cuz from looking at my stats i should b at least from rank 17 to like 21-22, and im currently 16 -.-

Note: did not leave any games early
Note 2: average kills per game had to b liek 18?

[Edited on 10.26.2007 1:54 PM PDT]

  • 10.26.2007 1:32 PM PDT

i need help someone please

  • 10.26.2007 1:40 PM PDT

Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they're out to get you, it means you think you matter.

Can't really help you there, only lost 5 games in Double Team (whilst playing 32 games) and am now a 32, but my K/D ratio has been significantly higher then yours, and I get MVP every single time. And the amount of exp you have is more then enough to rank up. Have you left any games? I mean, that -22 penality might account for it.

  • 10.26.2007 1:45 PM PDT

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Yeah, it's the TrueSkill system. I don't like it too much. It seems like it's really easy for some to rank up, but for others it's all an uphill battle. The only thing I could recommend is to just keep playing.

  • 10.26.2007 1:49 PM PDT

the -22 penalties were from way back before wen i had internet problems, dun got problems nemore and i dint leave any games ... so i duno wat to do

  • 10.26.2007 1:50 PM PDT

updated info

  • 10.26.2007 1:54 PM PDT

Paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they're out to get you, it means you think you matter.

Posted by: The Freik
Yeah, it's the TrueSkill system. I don't like it too much. It seems like it's really easy for some to rank up, but for others it's all an uphill battle. The only thing I could recommend is to just keep playing.

Wow, that website explains a lot >.>

  • 10.26.2007 2:22 PM PDT

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Look, this is getting silly. Things are working correctly, they just don't work like they did in Halo 2. Here's a few things to remember.

1. Your individual performance during a team game doesn't matter - if you lost, you lost, it doesn't matter how well you did personally.
2. Rank progression is NOT linear.
3. Rank progression is based on consistency and the rank of your opponents. That is, if you always lose to higher level opponents, and win most but still lose some to equal level opponents, you won't go up that match.
4. If you lose to someone lower level than you, your rank is going to suffer more. Winning against lower level players is expected, and will not assist you in going up.
5. I cannot say this enough - just winning more than you lose isn't going to get you rank. It is but one requirement. As I said, if you're not beating higher leveled players consistently, you don't go up a level because you haven't earned it.
6. Rank will initially change often, but once you get to a certain point, the system becomes statistically certain about your level in a playlist, and just playing games and winning is no longer enough to go up - you have to consistently win against higher leveled players and not lose to lower level players.
7. Please, PLEASE stop assuming things aren't working because it doesn't work how it did in Halo 2. Playing and winning only guarentees your EXP goes up, it doesn't guarentee your skill level goes up. That depends on who you are playing.

  • 10.26.2007 4:02 PM PDT
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how come i play team slayer with the same guys all the time we started with the same rank i do consitintl better than the other three yet there rank would go up three times faster than mine would im a 23 yet my freinds went to 30+ and yet are skills are some what equal.

  • 10.27.2007 8:27 PM PDT
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Yeah im having trouble ranking up, its a real pain. I was playing with three other players the other night and they were all a bit higher ranked than but had around the same skill. Despite winning 7 games in a row at one point my skill level didnt go up once despite every one elses going up a few. After about 15 games they had all gone up by about 5-8 and I went up 1. I was playing just as well getting good scores, loads of exp points but no skill.

Really sucks, if it is just the way the system works then I think it seams quite unfair.

  • 10.29.2007 9:34 AM PDT
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I don't really get why some people complain about this all the time. Yes, you may have some stretches where you don't really rank up, but look at the people you are playing. If it is people equal to your skill or less, is it really worthy of leveling up for beating some that is at best as good as you are? In order to rank up relatively quickly you'll need to beat players on a consistent basis who are better than you.
Also, what would be the point of the trueskill system if it were easy to level up? There would be a lot of high level players who shouldn't be there and only got there because they play a lot of games.
Now right now I'm a level 29 and I have played quite a few games for such a low rank, but that's because the trueskill system is working. Last week, I was a level 25 and I went on a huge streak and now I'm a major. That is an example of the trueskill system functioning normally and is no reason for concern by people on here.

  • 10.29.2007 9:50 AM PDT

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i say this new rank system is complete and utter bull-blam!-

i play with party of people, im lowest rank, and the person that is HIGHEST rank always goes up

even though i am going agiants HIGH ranks and winning

i smell bull-blam!-

  • 10.29.2007 12:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Mr Dinsdale
Despite winning 7 games in a row at one point my skill level didnt go up once despite every one elses going up a few.


Your 14 pages of game stats show that you've never won seven matches in a row. On the 23rd, you won six in a row, but in those matches you were matched up with equal or lower level players. Which is why you didn't go up a whole lot in rank.

So in the end, people may not like the True Skill experience/rank system because they exaggerate their wins and losses and who they're playing against. But it works.

  • 10.29.2007 1:09 PM PDT

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Uh, I'm not a level 50 yet. This system sucks.

  • 10.29.2007 1:11 PM PDT

Posted by: SS_Zag1
Uh, I'm not a level 50 yet. This system sucks.


You're a level 50 to me Zag.

  • 10.29.2007 1:20 PM PDT

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You're a level 50 to me Zag.

Mrs. Weggie, is that you? What are you doing on your son's account?

  • 10.29.2007 1:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: atomic weggie
You're a level 50 to me Zag.

Mrs. Weggie, is that you? What are you doing on your son's account?


Son? This is not your family tree Zag. She's my wife, not my mom.

  • 10.29.2007 1:29 PM PDT

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There is no problem. If you go +3 a game all the time then youre a +3 player. You could win 10 games in a row with you going +3 each time, but its also the method of killing that counts (ie if you can only kill people with a grav hammer, or only a sniper, then your overall skill spans from the sniper only). The wider the range of your kills AND your consistency will count towards a skill level.

EXAMPLE: Player A gets 20 kills in Slayer Game 1. He uses a mauler for 12 of his kills, and the AR for the rest. He dies 15 times (thus going +5), and his team wins the game.

Next game same happens again, Player A gets 18 kills by using a mauler and AR. If this continues he wont go up as quick as he wouldve done in Halo 2 Because the RANGE of his skill is limited (he used only AR and Maulers for his kills, showing that his skills only come from maulers and AR).

However, if in the second game he got 5 sticks and a few snipes, then he would go up as he's shown that he can get a consistent amount of kills with a variety of weapons.

As the weekly update says, its a judge of your overall skill, not just your skill with a grav hammer...

  • 10.29.2007 1:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: SS_Zag1
Uh, I'm not a level 50 yet. This system sucks.


You're a level 50 to me Zag.


And people say this board has a problem of elitism and hatred.

This post made my day. *snickers*

  • 10.29.2007 1:37 PM PDT

Does #1 imply that your performance within your team doesn't affect your experience. eg. if i come in 3rd (on the 1st place team) i get just as much XP as everyone else on that team .. if we're the same level?

  • 11.01.2007 9:14 AM PDT