- Shai Hulud
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- Exalted Mythic Member
With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.
Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Shai Hulud
Well one would have to take that statement and say it's very immature to nit-pick on a single statement made in a thread that's about a standard page long.
Length doesnt matter when it's invalididated by its very content. You can prattle on about monitoring the forums all you like. Still doesn't give you the ability to come back after more than 2 years of near absolute inactivity and post something that would get anyone else banned. You tried to categorise every bungie.net member (except yourself and your fellow "veterans") into a selection of negative categories. It's nowt short of trolling.
Length doesn't matter much, but my concern was that you didn't say much about my actual post. You decided to get pissy and tell me to leave. I don't think you really read the post. You saw that I was "complaining" in your eyes, and you want me to -blam!- off. That is, more or less, a flame of sorts, and I knew that I'd get it from someone. I'm not surprised it came from you.
What gives me the ability to come back after, READ: Half a year!, is the fact that my account remains, and so it shall, because I'm connected to this place in an almost profound way. This community isn't what it used to be. It doesn't accept who I am anymore. It stopped doing that about two years ago. For a time, I dealt with it, up until I saw how some were treated once they were elevated to Moderator status. People who hated them turned tail and started liking them just because they were mods. I commented on this, and I was faced with a general lack of acceptance of my own opinion. Also, decisions made by Bungie that were, in my opinion, complete bull-blam!-, coupled with the community's general lack of reaction to them, caused me to see that I just didn't fit in.
However, I stay because I am still connected. One does not simply say "no more," and walk away without threads lingering back to the source. When I said I would leave, I knew I'd be back. I didn't necessarily want to admit it, but I knew. Part of me still loves it here. The escape, the nostalgia. Although, a vast part of me has a distaste for it. For me, this place is like a candied-apple that has gone rotten. It's got it's caramelly goodness, but the bulk of it seems to want me to spit it back out once I take a bite. You, elmicker, are part of the rotten apple.
You get angry at people like me
What makes you think i'm angry? :S
I'd say telling me to get lost and saying I have no right to be here are statements filled with hostility. And you say you're not feeling any anger? I question your grasp on your own emotions. Try counseling. It might help.
and better yourself as a community member.
How would you have me better myself oh great worm?
I'm well aware that I don't deserve the immediate respect from newer memebers who have never heard of me. However, telling me, and others who have been around for a damned long amount of time, to get lost when they come back is not an admiral thing to do. Although you may not see it, I have influenced others, who have influenced others, who probably even influenced those who are active to day in some ways. Depending on the user and the time period, those influences may have come about due to actions of good, or actions that were generally despised. Even those who are despised at least serve as an example of what not to be like for the general public, and for that, they are invaluable. Whether or not the public decides to accept them is another thing. How can you learn from an argument if you don't get to see both sides?
try to do things (whatever they may be) to better this community in some way.
Practice what you preach, worm. I'm not the one who's -blam!-posting here.
My thread is evidence of such practice. Whether you like it or not, I have brought back those who haven't posted here in some time. I believe their presence is a benefit to the community.
Posted by: atomic weggie
Posted by: Shai Hulud
Elmicker, you tell me to get back under my bridge. Why? I care about this community, and I will state my concerns when I please. And wouldn't you say that my presence, and the fact that I've brought out many who haven't posted in a while, more "veterans," is a good thing? It adds a bit of color, in my opinion.
No, a good thing would be if you and your posse came up wih constructive ways to fix these so-called ills of our community. Not to incite people and rant about what hundreds of people have already said.
If you really cared Shai and wanted B.net to be more like the good ol' days, then you would get back in the trenches and cause positive change.
What better way to do that than to make the community aware of what we think? Being in no positions of real power, me and my "posse" (hah!) can't just go and change things without making what we think known.
So, because I, and the people with whom my forum personality "grew up" with on this site have some distaste for the state of the community now means that we can't be here and try to make things better? What kind of "community" throws away those who stop fitting in? Read some history, and you'll find that those types of communities have not been very moral in their decisions.
Posted by: BerserkerBarage (in response to Josher)
Knock yourself out kid. I'd love to see the results. Or you could just convene the "Jumpers Council" right, and let them vote on it. While you're at it, why not take another vote: who has their head stuck up their ass more? Shai or Josher?
"More funny"? Please, go back to your studies. Most of us like to say, "funnier". Such as, "I can't tell which is funnier, Josher's failed attempts at intellect or his hubris?"
Cheers,
~B.B.
First, I'd like to see why you think Josher and I have our heads stuck up our asses, if only because we don't like the current state of the community.
Don't you see anything wrong with that? Automatically assuming that we're stuck-up because of our opinions of the forums are negative? Go through these questions in your head: How does that make us stuck up? Is it right to call us that merely because our opinions are different from your own?
Second, I despise your attempt to insult Josher because he decided to use formal grammer. Say funnier all you want, B.B., we all know what you mean. But calling someone stuck up for saying something differently than you, and claiming that it's what the community uses, is quite hypocritical. It's like telling a teacher to piss off when she tells you that "ain't" ain't a word!
Many of you claim to speak for the community, but honestly, in doing so, you're giving the community an even worse name than what I labeled it with. I'm going to choose to think that you are not competent spokesmen for this community, and are simply choosing to speak out of your asses through anger without thinking beforehand.
[Edited on 11.01.2007 11:48 AM PDT]