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Subject: The downward cycle of bungie moderation
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Posted by: Taken
If you really think "those be fightin" flames and that I am actually trying to cause trouble,


You might not be trying, but every one of your posts has been condescending pap. Trust me on this, i know condescending pap.

The original account WAS my main account then I just created new ones for my Gamertags (I have many)

Then pick one and stick to it. Don't account hop just to make inflammatory posts with no repurcussions.

actually YOU would be considered a troll since you derailed this thread miserably since your first post, dragging me and FF along with you.

I'm not trolling. If i were trolling i'd be doing it for an entertaining reaction. You're simply vexing.

As for dragging it off topic?

heh, no. I'm still on topic. The topic is about a downturn in apparant moderation. It's obvious alot of this is due to an increased workload. You said yourself you could name "A LOT of "regulars" who actively utilise alternate accounts as second personas. How much of this increased workload do you think is down to members who know their way around the rules simply being tossers on alts with no fear of reprisal on their whiter-than-white main?

[Edited on 10.30.2007 11:47 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2007 11:47 AM PDT
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I find it really cute that you only quote key elements of my posts to make yourself look like "the good guy"

Posted by: Taken
If you really think "those be fightin" flames and that I am actually trying to cause trouble, you have never met a good troll.

The original account WAS my main account then I just created new ones for my Gamertags (I have many) I am not trolling at all, actually YOU would be considered a troll. You run around calling everyone alternate accounts flamebaiting people, which you even admit to in your post. Then you try to pull the "You're a troll" card, when in fact you are doing the same things I am, but you are also baiting other users. So, not only are you a hypocrite trying to derail this topic, but you are a flamebaiter

I'm sorry but you "zomg teh troll" act is tired and played out.


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Posted by: elmicker
You're posting on an alt created specifically for this thread.

Why?

Looks like flamebaiting and derailing the topic to me.

[Edited on 10.30.2007 11:51 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2007 11:49 AM PDT

but there's no sense crying over every mistake
you just keep on trying until you run out of cake

Hey guys, why don't you take that outside (this forum) and hammer it out? Y'all going waaay off-topic here.

  • 10.30.2007 11:50 AM PDT

if you light a man a fire you keep him warm for a day

if light a man on fire you keep him warm for the rest of his life 0_o

Well id be a moderater but im not good with punctuation did i spell that rite o my god OMG im mean LOL
Meatloaf oh and neways this is scary where am i oh wait i dont know see whats wrong with me do you see the giant bunny rabbit

  • 10.30.2007 11:51 AM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Qbix89
When he has, with great success, hired moderators using this method...


Arguably, the only successful moderating "hiring" was the very first, way back when. All those since then have been full of emo tossmongery and drama.


Wait...wait. You're saying that giving Shishka mod powers was "successful"?

I kid, I kid.

Actually I miss Shishka. He made me look pleasant.

~B.B.


I don't see anything wrong with the current mods. Other than that they complain about the weight that they carry on their shoulders. I mean, they are mods. They should me amazed by their own success. Lol j/k

  • 10.30.2007 11:51 AM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I'm sure the current moderators have quite a few people in mind that they wouldn't mind seeing hippo-licked. They just go on with business as usual until the time comes to casts lots
~B.B.

Achronos has pretty much shot down any suggestions thrown his way by the moderating staff. At least thats what the voices in my head tell me.


That very much could be true. And wouldn't be surprising actually. However, there is someone who probably would get a nod from a mod (I like typing that) that I would doubt would be shot down. And that someone certainly isn't me. He is the chosen one, if you catch my drift.

Again, it's hard to speculate on it because we "normies" aren't included in the conversation, and for good reason. Who knows, maybe they have asked and everyone was found wanting.

~B.B.

  • 10.30.2007 11:52 AM PDT

if you light a man a fire you keep him warm for a day

if light a man on fire you keep him warm for the rest of his life 0_o

no im an employee for microsoft im j/k too.

  • 10.30.2007 11:53 AM PDT

if you light a man a fire you keep him warm for a day

if light a man on fire you keep him warm for the rest of his life 0_o

The only problem is bungie has me on a stick that has a short end and i m scared of even droping a post in here.

  • 10.30.2007 11:55 AM PDT

Strange evolution how people have come to believe
That we are it's greatest achievement
We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
Overrating themselves

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I'm sure the current moderators have quite a few people in mind that they wouldn't mind seeing hippo-licked. They just go on with business as usual until the time comes to casts lots
~B.B.

Achronos has pretty much shot down any suggestions thrown his way by the moderating staff. At least thats what the voices in my head tell me.


That very much could be true. And wouldn't be surprising actually. However, there is someone who probably would get a nod from a mod (I like typing that) that I would doubt would be shot down. And that someone certainly isn't me. He is the chosen one, if you catch my drift.

Again, it's hard to speculate on it because we "normies" aren't included in the conversation, and for good reason. Who knows, maybe they have asked and everyone was found wanting.

~B.B.

If you're right, you do realize that would mean if both he and Recon posted in the same thread, it would take 3 days to read.

  • 10.30.2007 11:57 AM PDT

if you light a man a fire you keep him warm for a day

if light a man on fire you keep him warm for the rest of his life 0_o

Im just bored at work checking the forums for any updates .
I ran across the downward cycle of bungie moderation article.

  • 10.30.2007 11:59 AM PDT

if you light a man a fire you keep him warm for a day

if light a man on fire you keep him warm for the rest of his life 0_o

Im glad we have had this pointless conversation but who will care in 100 yrs.

  • 10.30.2007 12:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Flavor Flav
Wait, here is the best part. You are telling me that Mr_Mousetrap is talking to someone(i'm guessing whoever you said I was), but you still dont give the direct answer to say who he is. I wonder why that would be? Prehaps the straw man has friends.


If you think i'm faking those chatlogs you're free to join #moap @ IBO and have them confirmed from others if you'd like. (ed: lol. seems you've already done it via msn. keke.)

Also, you are trying to accuse other members of breaking the rules

Another member. I only had a go at you for posting a drama thread on a new account.

more stuff.

shucks, love. didn't realise pointing out the fact that the thread was being torn to bits by a pair of blatant alts (which was quite ironic, really, considering the subject matter) would be such a touchy subject with you.

As for being on topic. I am. Read my previous post. Alt posting is responsible for a great huge hunk of -blam!- for the moderators. Ending it would lighten the workload and allow them to focus on actual moderation instead of dealing with emo tossmongery. Have you not found it curious how the current moderator team find it so hard to trust anyone on the public forums? It's difficult to make a case in favour of ending alt posting without first showing how much its abused by certain groups within the community.

Anyway, the actual OTness of this thread is questionable, at best. It's very similar to several we've had in the last couple of weeks, and Achronos has answered each one in the same way: "More mods = more problems." The actual discussion ended around page 3. The rest of it has been me dragging you through the -blam!- and BB 'n' co reminiscing.

I find it really cute that you only quote key elements of my posts to make yourself look like "the good guy"

I quote the point i'm responding to. It keeps my posts tidy.

[Edited on 10.30.2007 12:08 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2007 12:05 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

Mods not on the downfall

I have NEVER been warned for this before, and I have done stuff like it hundreds of times before.

Me thinks the mods are getting pissed?

Posted by: Disembodied Soul
You have been sent a warning from ash55. This warning's text is below:

A Bungie.net Forum Moderator has warned you for violating the code of conduct and/or rules of the forum in the thread below. Further violations will likely result in a ban.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14099427

"In before the lock style posts" (posting when you know the thread will be closed) are against the rules. Use your brain.

  • 10.30.2007 12:09 PM PDT

but there's no sense crying over every mistake
you just keep on trying until you run out of cake

Posted by: PKF_647
Mods not on the downfall

I have NEVER been warned for this before, and I have done stuff like it hundreds of times before.

Me thinks the mods are getting pissed?

Posted by: Disembodied Soul
You have been sent a warning from ash55. This warning's text is below:

A Bungie.net Forum Moderator has warned you for violating the code of conduct and/or rules of the forum in the thread below. Further violations will likely result in a ban.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14099427

"In before the lock style posts" (posting when you know the thread will be closed) are against the rules. Use your brain.


That has always been against the rules. But yes, they probably are a little grumpy-but who can blame them?

  • 10.30.2007 12:16 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I'm sure the current moderators have quite a few people in mind that they wouldn't mind seeing hippo-licked. They just go on with business as usual until the time comes to casts lots
~B.B.

Achronos has pretty much shot down any suggestions thrown his way by the moderating staff. At least thats what the voices in my head tell me.


That very much could be true. And wouldn't be surprising actually. However, there is someone who probably would get a nod from a mod (I like typing that) that I would doubt would be shot down. And that someone certainly isn't me. He is the chosen one, if you catch my drift.

Again, it's hard to speculate on it because we "normies" aren't included in the conversation, and for good reason. Who knows, maybe they have asked and everyone was found wanting.

~B.B.

If you're right, you do realize that would mean if both he and Recon posted in the same thread, it would take 3 days to read.


Quite so, but at least it would be a well-thought out 3 days.

Sidenote- What's crazy is some of Recon's posts are made from his cell phone. For the love of all things Qwerty, Recon, give the keyboard a break!

~B.B.

  • 10.30.2007 12:19 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

my point is they are "working to rule" more nowadays

its good I guess, I just dont want to piss off any mods with me not knowing every single rule

  • 10.30.2007 12:19 PM PDT

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.

Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

Posted by: PKF_647
my point is they are "working to rule" more nowadays

its good I guess, I just dont want to piss off any mods with me not knowing every single rule


Which is why he warned you instead of temp-banning you. Be grateful. It wasn't so long ago that the "warn" system was only a figment of Achronos' imagination. Before, a 3 day temp-ban *was* the warning.

~B.B.

  • 10.30.2007 12:22 PM PDT

but there's no sense crying over every mistake
you just keep on trying until you run out of cake

Posted by: PKF_647
my point is they are "working to rule" more nowadays

its good I guess, I just dont want to piss off any mods with me not knowing every single rule


Duck and cover, my friend lol. But most of the rules, IMHO, are pretty common sense. Sure, you can't memorize everything, but if you think something might be wrong, look at the rules before posting. Either way, you definitly know about that one now lol :)

  • 10.30.2007 12:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: atomic weggie
Zag mom jokes never get old.................NEVER!

Besides, it looks like you guys have turned this thread into discussing whether it's appropriate to post on a duel account instead of the original topic.


I agree. On both points.

  • 10.30.2007 12:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Flavor Flav
Ash 55 just said you were hitler on MSN, does that make it true?


Did he? Meh. He's called me worse. ♥ You ashy baby.

2 months is hardly new.

Yes, 2 months is new. However, you've been here longer than that, Alt.


And now youre saying youve having a "go" at me, meaning it is your intent to start trouble. Once again, youre breaking the rules.

That's spinning it a bit far, now, isn't it? It's not like i insulted you or called you hitler or anything. I merely questioned your credibility with intent to raise the point of alt posting. Which, i've done.

You do realize the ignorance of your statement right? Your first post was entirely offtopic, derailing discussion, insulting members, and slinging accusations.[/quote[

all designed to make a point. It's been thoroughly made now, if i'm any judge.

[quote]So instead of saying "alternate accounts are a common problem especially with users who create new accounts to spam over and over again" which wouldve easily gotten you to where you say you were going, you started an argument with other users, flamed, trolled, baited, etc. That defiatly makes it seem like you werent trying to cause problems and that you were simply trying to prove a point. If you detect sarcasm, it is merely a coincidence.


I grabbed the nearest example of the common problem. Do you have a problem with that? The baiting was simply to prove the point that they're alts. You've both made admissions way beyond your days.

  • 10.30.2007 12:26 PM PDT

SB-117

Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Flavor Flav
Ash 55 just said you were hitler on MSN, does that make it true?

Did he? Meh. He's called me worse. ♥ You ashy baby.

I was inquiring who said this as I had my suspicions.

<3

So Flav is 100% confirmed as Logical then... Gimme a sec...

[Edited on 10.30.2007 12:30 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2007 12:28 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Posted by: PKF_647
my point is they are "working to rule" more nowadays

its good I guess, I just dont want to piss off any mods with me not knowing every single rule


Which is why he warned you instead of temp-banning you. Be grateful. It wasn't so long ago that the "warn" system was only a figment of Achronos' imagination. Before, a 3 day temp-ban *was* the warning.

~B.B.


and thats why im not complaining

only saying that people who think that the mods are doing nothing or very little are wrong.

I have been to bans-ville before...a few times, i try to be good, but sometimes they catch me with something i never knew was a rule.

oh well, their site their rules.

  • 10.30.2007 12:29 PM PDT