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Subject: Why do you think Halo 2 is better than Halo 3 (or vice versa)?
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I find myself playing more Halo 2 than I do playing Halo 3, because it is so much more fun. I think that is because of its faster pace and better maps.

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  • 11.11.2007 8:45 AM PDT
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Halo 2 has better maps

  • 11.11.2007 2:16 PM PDT
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Halo 2 has better maps and its faster paced, plus the better players survive. Halo 3 is too balanced and the stronger players get killed by the weaker players. Plus halo 3 has no skill in it, all people do is melee and use the AR.

  • 11.11.2007 5:59 PM PDT

Halo 2 has great, great maps. I haven't played since halo 3 release though.

  • 11.11.2007 8:07 PM PDT

Posted by: fiagra
Halo 2 has better maps and its faster paced, plus the better players survive.

The maps are better, I'll agree with that. Good players still survive in halo 3 - it just requires a re-assessment of what is considered a good player. Most of the people complaining simply aren't as good as they thought they were.

Halo 3 is too balanced and the stronger players get killed by the weaker players.
Not really. The players who are actually better don't lose to players who are actually worse. Only those who thought they were hot -blam!- but really weren't. If you get beaten by "weaker" players, you ARE the weaker player. A lot of people who relied on halo 2's skewed system are suddenly finding they need to work hard to win, not just hold onto the good weapons and repeatedly smash helpless SMG-wielders with them.

Plus halo 3 has no skill in it, all people do is melee and use the AR.
It already has more skill thanks to the reduction in aim-assist. And most of the people who complain about the overuse of AR+melee are too stubborn to stand the hell back when they get a better weapon like they ought to. It's the spawning weapon, why on earth should you be surprised it is used a lot? Often you don't have a choice. If the SMG had been even half-decent in halo 2 then you would have observed the same phenomenon there.

  • 11.12.2007 2:21 AM PDT
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Whenever I play :( halo 3 :( -which I rarley do- I find it pretty easy to get kills. Surprisingly I don't use the AR too much, I perfer a BR. Plus the reduction of aim-assist makes it EASIER, that is, of course, if you have Halo CE experience. I Myself find it easy to get kills and its not a real challenge most of the time.

I like :) halo 2 :) because its challenging. This might be crazy but, the aim assist in :) halo 2 :)made it challenging since every one has the same. People don't camp often in :) halo 2 :). I myself don't like it when people camp, I can't really say it takes skill, so its more of a stratedgy.

  • 11.13.2007 5:39 AM PDT
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Halo 2 has better maps and is more challenging than halo 3. halo 3 is way too easy and has alot more unskilled players

  • 11.13.2007 3:42 PM PDT
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I can't believe some people out there honestly think that Halo 2 takes more skill than Halo 3.

Reduced auto aim means you have to actually aim your guns yourself and not have bungie hold your little hand.

Balanced weapons ARE a good thing people, and they're the main reason halo 3 takes so much more skill.

Power Weapon whoring against SMG spawners isn't a skill people, you don't have to have any quick reflexes or prowess on a controller to do it.

Anyone, even people who have never played games before can hold x over a rocket launcher and blow up someone who has had the game 3 years but spawned facing the other way with an SMG...

Power weapon whoring may be a "strategy", but it doesn't take skill and it doesn't mean your good.


I will agree that halo 2's maps were much better, but skillwise halo 3 is FAR superior.

  • 11.14.2007 12:31 PM PDT

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i agree with the Halo 2 maps being better. i do really like a few halo 3 maps though. one of my main gripes with halo 2 was the spawning with the SMG. you spend your first few seconds searching for a better gun where as halo 3 the AR works really well so you can jump right into it with half a chance, especially chasing down a flag carrier or to attack a bomb carrier.

i can't really explain exactly why, but i almost have as many games on xbox live with Halo 3 now than i did all the years Halo 2 has been out. i did the same with the Beta. i've also met a lot of really cool people with 3 that i regularly play with now. that's the most fun for me.

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  • 11.14.2007 3:31 PM PDT

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Halo 3's radar has a radius of like 2 feet, and no matter where oyu are you will be gang banged by like 5 people, and it takes no skill, and the snipe sucks, even though i did the sickest snipe today... some guy tried to splatter me with the ghost and i jumped over and no scoped him in the head, and it was a 4-way split screen, pure pwnage.

  • 11.14.2007 8:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: NotShookImCold
Halo 3's radar has a radius of like 2 feet, and no matter where oyu are you will be gang banged by like 5 people, and it takes no skill, and the snipe sucks, even though i did the sickest snipe today... some guy tried to splatter me with the ghost and i jumped over and no scoped him in the head, and it was a 4-way split screen, pure pwnage.



"takes no skill"

I like how you slid that into your post thinking no one would notice.

Please explain how you think this game takes no skill compared to Halo 2.

  • 11.14.2007 8:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: NotShookImCold
Halo 3's radar has a radius of like 2 feet, and no matter where oyu are you will be gang banged by like 5 people, and it takes no skill, and the snipe sucks, even though i did the sickest snipe today... some guy tried to splatter me with the ghost and i jumped over and no scoped him in the head, and it was a 4-way split screen, pure pwnage.



"takes no skill"

I like how you slid that into your post thinking no one would notice.

Please explain how you think this game takes no skill compared to Halo 2.


I agree with Ninjaspartan777. In Halo 2 auto-aim, BXR, and a host of other glitches were in the game. I’m not saying that Halo 2 is horrifying or anything, it is mediocre for a game. The thing is, I prefer Halo 3 because it has no auto-aim and I love the Brute Spikers.

  • 11.15.2007 5:13 PM PDT

i think halo 2 is always a fight for better weapons and if you are the stonger player you will hold thos better weapons,
i halo 3 you can almost kill anybody with anything

  • 11.15.2007 9:02 PM PDT
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First of all I like halo 2 better it's my fav halo game. I don't like all the changes they made to the game

#1 no more dual needlers i know there stronger but i want to mix it with other weapons and dual it, they didn't have to make them so much stonger but i still like the new needler i just want to dual it.

#2 why can't the banshee go strait down any more, and i dont like the way its handals any more, but i like how u can shot the plasma bomb off now thats cool.

#3 Why take away the weak spot in the ghost that was cool they should bring that back.

#4 No more lock on with rockets come on, i do like the new rocket pod but it's doesn't work very well against people

#5 No more noob combo, I now people hate it when people used it in halo 2 but that took skill and i don't care what any says about that, the new plasma pistol sucks, but it is cool how you can stall a vechicle with it but it does not track any more and that sucks

#6 I hate the hammer most of the time i just push people away and they kill me and that sucks I know if i waited for them to get in my face then hit them that would change but if i did i would must likely be dead any way.

#7 I don't like how the made the warthog more powerful and it's seems slow to me, but i do like how easy it is to drive backwards

#8 why does it take so long to change weapons that really sucks i like how you could hide the sword in halo 2 then pull it out when someones gets closer but now the weapon change takes too long.

#9 I know must people hate this but i like to super bounce any one can do them and on halo 3 they made the barriers on the maps so small you can't even get out of the maps in forged game type it was fun to just glitch around. They should have made it so you can get out of the map in forged games some maps there are some place you can get out but not like in halo 2.

#10 I like the sniper in halo 2 better but the sniper in halo 3 is good becuace it take more skill to us it.

#11 I hate the AR and i always did why bring it back bungie can't you see people like br starts

#12 I don't like how even halo3 is if you stick with your team you can allmost always win halo3 is more about team work and gernades Iam a One Man Army I don'y need teemmates to lose the game for me. In halo 2 give me a sniper and BR and it's game over

#13 why change the game types i don't like new terrortories, rocket race sucks, and bring back my favs SWAT, BTB, 1VS1, 2VS2, and Nutral Flag.

#14 what is the deal with this respawns people can respawn right behide u it happens all the time and it sucks, plus u can't spawn camp no more that should be part of the game it is a good strategie.

There are some things that i like about halo3 like forging i like to make cool maps for zombie game i have a ton i just wish they would make it so you could search .for custom games. I also like forge because you can bring back some of the cool stuff from halo 2 like BR starts and fix the respawns so people dont spawn behind u all the time on my maps i make it so there are two side one for each team and there are lots of respawns so it's hard to spawn camp.

I also like the new weapons and vechicles but they should have put fire bombs on the maps and the flamethrower its so much fun to us. The new maps look good but if your noticed on halo2 the maps are alot more flat and leavel so it is easyier to snipe but i do like the new look of the game but some maps should be flatter.

I am not two happy about the energy fields on door ways you should be able to knock them out or some thing and where did they come from i never seen them in the game before but some times they can save your butt.

Why arn't there any teleports on the maps just man canons i like to put them on my custom maps

I am sure there more but iam tired

P.S. halo 2 takes more skill and Halo3 takes more team work

IF you like custom games i have alot game types and forged maps for you to try out so if you want send me a FR my new GT is "alloutofmercy" no caps no spaces


[Edited on 11.16.2007 12:16 AM PST]

  • 11.16.2007 12:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: killaman187
First of all I like halo 2 better it's my fav halo game. I don't like all the changes they made to the game

#1 no more dual needlers i know there stronger but i want to mix it with other weapons and dual it, they didn't have to make them so much stonger but i still like the new needler i just want to dual it.

#2 why can't the banshee go strait down any more, and i dont like the way its handals any more, but i like how u can shot the plasma bomb off now thats cool.

#3 Why take away the weak spot in the ghost that was cool they should bring that back.

#4 No more lock on with rockets come on, i do like the new rocket pod but it's doesn't work very well against people

#5 No more noob combo, I now people hate it when people used it in halo 2 but that took skill and i don't care what any says about that, the new plasma pistol sucks, but it is cool how you can stall a vechicle with it but it does not track any more and that sucks

#6 I hate the hammer most of the time i just push people away and they kill me and that sucks I know if i waited for them to get in my face then hit them that would change but if i did i would must likely be dead any way.

#7 I don't like how the made the warthog more powerful and it's seems slow to me, but i do like how easy it is to drive backwards

#8 why does it take so long to change weapons that really sucks i like how you could hide the sword in halo 2 then pull it out when someones gets closer but now the weapon change takes too long.

#9 I know must people hate this but i like to super bounce any one can do them and on halo 3 they made the barriers on the maps so small you can't even get out of the maps in forged game type it was fun to just glitch around. They should have made it so you can get out of the map in forged games some maps there are some place you can get out but not like in halo 2.

#10 I like the sniper in halo 2 better but the sniper in halo 3 is good becuace it take more skill to us it.

#11 I hate the AR and i always did why bring it back bungie can't you see people like br starts

#12 I don't like how even halo3 is if you stick with your team you can allmost always win halo3 is more about team work and gernades Iam a One Man Army I don'y need teemmates to lose the game for me. In halo 2 give me a sniper and BR and it's game over

#13 why change the game types i don't like new terrortories, rocket race sucks, and bring back my favs SWAT, BTB, 1VS1, 2VS2, and Nutral Flag.

#14 what is the deal with this respawns people can respawn right behide u it happens all the time and it sucks, plus u can't spawn camp no more that should be part of the game it is a good strategie.

There are some things that i like about halo3 like forging i like to make cool maps for zombie game i have a ton i just wish they would make it so you could search .for custom games. I also like forge because you can bring back some of the cool stuff from halo 2 like BR starts and fix the respawns so people dont spawn behind u all the time on my maps i make it so there are two side one for each team and there are lots of respawns so it's hard to spawn camp.

I also like the new weapons and vechicles but they should have put fire bombs on the maps and the flamethrower its so much fun to us. The new maps look good but if your noticed on halo2 the maps are alot more flat and leavel so it is easyier to snipe but i do like the new look of the game but some maps should be flatter.

I am not two happy about the energy fields on door ways you should be able to knock them out or some thing and where did they come from i never seen them in the game before but some times they can save your butt.

Why arn't there any teleports on the maps just man canons i like to put them on my custom maps

I am sure there more but iam tired

P.S. halo 2 takes more skill and Halo3 takes more team work

IF you like custom games i have alot game types and forged maps for you to try out so if you want send me a FR my new GT is "alloutofmercy" no caps no spaces



No comment on 1-7, as they're mostly personal preference.

#8. No, I think the stall in the weapons change is a good thing, because it makes power weapons less abusable.
#10. I think you have it the other way around. I don't see how a stall and slight recoil can make a sniper rifle take "less skill", maybe you just don't like it because it's harder to get kills with?
#11. Hey, at least it beats the SMG...

You did make some points I agree with, but I think you're really confused about your last point.

"P.S. halo 2 takes more skill and Halo3 takes more team work"

Halo 3 would be more about individual skill, since you have less auto aim, and a decent spawn weapon, so your precise aim and maneuvering (not to mention the weapon balance) actually means you can fend for yourself.

Halo 2 doesn't require nowhere near as much individual skill imo, and the game is HEAVILY team based seeing as how the whole game revolves around power weapon controlling.

  • 11.16.2007 8:53 PM PDT
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This is my old account but iam a highest level in halo 3 is 44 and i could make it higher but i don't like matchmaking that much so i play custom games more then the other.

#8 the weapon stall is stupid there was no stall in halo or halo2 why in halo 3 it sucks if you have the weapon already how cares if you can change weapons faster you should have kept me from getting the weapon in the first place.

#10 you must have read it wrong i said the sniper in halo3 take more skill because you can't just pop of rounds as fast as you can like in halo2 and by the way i owen with the sniper in any game you should see my file share film clips

#11 the smg is better in halo 3 then in halo 2 i think and they should made it a back up and the BR a starter weapon because that the first thing you grab
if you can't get a sniper. Plus you can't dual it .

I am going to agree to disagree about the skills needed to win in halo3 if you just run around with teammates in H3 its very easy to win and because of the map lay out on most the maps there lost of place for your team to get the lead and just camp to the end like on construct, and snowbound. Plus i think your wrong about how halo2 take less skill .

"Halo 2 doesn't require nowhere near as much individual skill imo, and the game is HEAVILY team based seeing as how the whole game revolves around power weapon controlling."

The only thime weapons really matter is when you play slayer and must of the time people just run around by there self more then in halo3 because of the better map layouts. And there weapons are placed futher away from each other. If you try to run around in a team slayer game in H3 you should just kill your self and save some time because you will just get team gang banged or some one will spawn right behind you what is up with respawn in halo3
they suck i know there trying to stop spawn killing but that has always been part of the game.

I loved the game before they should have kept the game play the same and just added new weapons and maps ect but keep must of the stuff the same.

on the other hand what is up with all the barriers now some times people like to glitch around aleast make it so you can get out the maps in forged games or custom games what is the harm i that. while iam talking about this you can get past all the barriers in H3 you just need some one to help you first change game to forge then make a turret and have your friend jump on it then move the turret next to the barrier and then push up on the D-pad and you should be past the barrier now if i could find a way to get a teleporter out there then you could get out the map in custom games. There is one way that i know to stay out the barrier with out being killed by the gaurdians you have to make a flot and platform to stand on then make your teleport on it and your out on some maps it does not work thow.

  • 11.17.2007 2:29 PM PDT

Halo 2 has better maps. If the moved all the maps from halo 1 and 2 about a million more people would play halo 3.

  • 11.17.2007 8:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: LigerMan95
Halo 2 has better maps. If the moved all the maps from halo 1 and 2 about a million more people would play halo 3.


I agree, I mean why the hell did they get rid of blood gultch when it was in the first two games and was such a great map.
On XBL for halo3 all I see is -blam!- snowbound.

  • 11.17.2007 10:53 PM PDT
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i am sure they will bring back some of the maps but change some thing like zanzabar to last resort will i least i hope.

  • 11.18.2007 12:34 AM PDT
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Last night I decided to play a Halo 2 match, so I went to matchmaking and went straight to a Team Slayer game.

Now that I've played Halo 3 for a while now I can say that Halo 3 simply feels better than Halo 2.

Yes, maybe it lacks good maps but the weapons, the equipment, the control scheme plus many other details gives you more fun, although Halo 3 is definitely not for the competetive players.

[Edited on 11.18.2007 11:15 AM PST]

  • 11.18.2007 11:14 AM PDT
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If the assault rifle was in H2 then there would be no SMG whores....H2 had the best multiplayer because of this Halo 1 was groundbreaking no multiplayer, Halo 2 just as ground breaking but HAD multiplayer. Halo 3 same thing but i think competitive gamers are used to Halo 2's scheme and are used to online thats why some ppl say H2 is more addicting.

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  • 11.18.2007 2:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xbot
Halo 3 is much too balanced (if that makes any sense) I think Halo 2 is better BUT remember, they are working on a patch for Halo 3 so that can change in a heart beat. Halo 2 seems much more fast paced which made the game SO much better.


I love those fast paced games.
Lol the fastest being a dual wields games I like to play on beaver creek.

  • 11.19.2007 4:08 AM PDT
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I have to say that I like both games. I'm more of a Halo 2 player simply since a 360 isn't in my budget atm, so I can only play Halo 3 when I frequent the apartment down the hall (happens quite frequently, I assure you)

Some points I'd like to make...

Frankly, I don't think Halo 2 needed aim assist anyway, and I'm glad it was reduced in Halo 3. That being said, I'm used to NO aim assist, so I barely notice a difference at all. However, i do think that if you can't aim your gun on your own, you shouldn't be playing FPS.

I like Halo 2 because in my opinion, the level of co-operation you need between teammates is crucial to the game. It's important in Halo 3 as well, but not to the extent it is Halo 2. I also think that occasionally unbalanced things are ok: There was an article in PC gamer a while back talking about unbalanced games, and a great example was Star Wars Galaxies. A dancer was pretty much ALWAYS going to be worse against a storm trooper than a bounty hunter was, and that was o.k. In Halo, not all the weapons are going to be equal in power, and they shouldn't be.

This being said, Halo 3 has PHENOMENAL multiplayer play, and Bungie did good when they added permutations since it adds a whole new level to the customization process. However, I am a fan of the temporary bond-like thing you can form when you're on a team, and I feel like Halo 3 is a little more focused on being a lone wolf that I would like.

  • 11.19.2007 5:26 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

I played Halo 2 pretty much every day it was out until Halo 3 came out. I already quit Halo 3 in favor of Call of Duty 4. Draw your conclusions from that.

  • 11.19.2007 8:28 AM PDT

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