- chaostheory101
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Okay look, I joined these forums in 2004 or so. I almost NEVER post here though. I do however post at mlgpro a lot cause I've been a moderator there for almost 3 years now (and I know pretty much any and all there is to know about Halo CE). I know that probably makes pretty much no difference at all in my argument here, but I hope it may give me a tiny bit more validity. The trueskill system is genuinely terrible. You have no idea how much I laughed when I read some of the replies in this thread when objections were brought up about how it works and the answer was "Its working how it's supposed to." It rang SUCH a bell. See, I am also a Network administrator and a consultant for a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner so I deal with microsoft products all day every day. And so many times when I come across a bug or a problem, the answer from MS is "OH Thats by design!"
Bull.
My problems are not nearly as bad as some of the people in here. I saw in a post above some kid won 51 games and won 50 of them and stayed the same rank. Now not only is that just plain unfair and stupid to him, but its COMPLETELY unfair for the lower skilled players that constantly have to face his obvious dominance. I just did the same thing. I just played 19 games in a row as a level 23 in team slayer (the 32 and 21 in my did not level up once either in 19 games).
Not only did we win every game, but I think only one team broke 30, a small handful broke 20 and the rest scored in the teens or even less than 10. At least 4 teams jsut quit due to frustration and lack of options (I felt bad for them - I could knock out a novel on your game balance in matchmaking but thats a different beef). You think kids are having fun when they quit? NO. So dont give me that "its by design" crap. This system is the freakin WINDOWS ME of videogame rankings. Its an absolute gotdamn joke. A JOKE. All the fancy Mu and Stigma equations in the world dont make it good. Don't think that some mathematic smoke and mirrors are going to make your system sound more relevant and effective. IIve seen MS try to pull that with other software stuff; you can confuse some people into submission and acceptance, I dont happen to be one of them. t's flawed, and just plain doesnt work if its purpose os to make the idea gaming environment for players of all skill levels.
You probably wont believe me but I HONESTLY dont care about my level that much. If I did I would have gotten a 50 when the game came out. Im friends with people who did it in the first 2 weeks the game was out. I just dont care that much. I lanned halo CE last night - thats my competitive gaming fix, this is just to pass time. It was going to be worth my time this afternoon to get it up a few levels but I feel like I wasted 3 hours. How can you possibly say a system in which we didn't have any increasing challenge at all, the kids we were playing didnt have fun AT ALL and I finished a 3 hour streak of halo 3, after having WON - pissed and frustrated? How is that justified.
"By design" ...yea I bet. I dont even know why Im surprised - I deal with stupid MS products at work all day, use crappy windows CE on my smart phone, play a frustrating game with a bad ranking system made by a MS studio on my MS console - ALL of which have a ton of problems. This was just the last straw this afternoon tho. These poor kids had to play us 20 times in row. They were quitting, we were set up with snipe, BR and rocks, playing like most good tems do. No one was having fun, wheres the adrenaline when its 45-14? OOOooHh whos gonna win??? How many more teams do we have to 50-15 before Trueskill decides to let them have a break and give us a bit more of a challenge? Such utter crap. Explain away Bungie - tell me to play with a different party, give me all the same advice you give to the kids on here that FIEND for a level 50, a symbol, a recon helmet and a katana on their damn back. I dont give a damn.
Doesnt matter what you tell me - it's broken. No explanation you could give me after winning 19 games and staying a 23 will be sufficient.. It wasnt fun for any one of the 160 individuals involved in my halo 3-based afternoon with absolutely NO indication that we would EVER have a different experience with that group of people playing. No increase in rank for us and no fun for the legit 20-30 level players AND no progress at all in 3 hours? That means Trueskill failed.
I eagerly await your response to my complaint. Hell you may even agree with me and be forced to give me some standard reply seeing as you have no control in the matter. This is one qualified adult telling another qualified adult that your system is not working properly. Take it for what it is.
Regards..
cT