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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.
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alright i have a question that i should be able to think through myself, but im confused
so here goes
im currently on a hot streak in team dbls, leveling up almost every game
so if i go cold on something like lone wolves or team slayer, would that decrease my sigma? or my mu??

thanks

  • 01.28.2008 4:12 PM PDT
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ok made a new 1 month account and i have played 117 games and i am having trouble leveling up i seem to be getting stuck on every level idk whats he prob

we win everygame like 50 to 5 and i dont understand y we arent lvling up aster seeing how the teams we are playing cant compete with us so do i have to startlosing in order to level up like i should

ex. i am a 11 in TS and i have played 50 something gamesand havent lost yet

the same is hapening with the 3 friends i am playing with WHATS GOING ON

  • 01.28.2008 4:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Regggie Noble
alright i have a question that i should be able to think through myself, but im confused
so here goes
im currently on a hot streak in team dbls, leveling up almost every game
so if i go cold on something like lone wolves or team slayer, would that decrease my sigma? or my mu??

thanks


Sigma is on a per playlist basis. Playing LW's or TS won't do anything to your doubles issue.

If you are undefeated in doubles...yeah your sigma will start to decrease rapidly. If you have already lost before, your sigma should have been dropping slowly regardless. Once you start losing a little you won't be ranking up every game.

MU goes up if you win
MU goes down if you lose
Sigma goes down every game (in 99.9% of cases)

  • 01.28.2008 5:45 PM PDT
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If anyone who works for bungie sees this will you please send me a personal message, i have a serious problem to address (not dealing with you guys at all i swear)

  • 01.28.2008 7:23 PM PDT

Thought I would just update you all on how I am doing. I got very frustrated with Team Slayer and Team Doubles, so I thought I'd try Lone Wolf. I found I level up frequently in Lone Wolves and I have finally achieved the skill of 35. Now I can play doubles with my friend and not be frustrated about my skill not rising fast enough until I need to get to 40, haha.
I still find this a little funny because I played players all lower than me and won oddball. I had 50 next person had 31. I went up two ranks. I then played people whom were 38-41 when I was 34 and won, didn't go up, then I played again and won, then again and then I got my 35.
Oh well, I got it, now to get it in doubles!

  • 01.28.2008 7:30 PM PDT
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why don't you just say "If you're stuck at one level, try doing this, or this"?

that's be way more helpful

  • 01.29.2008 6:55 AM PDT

Posted by: I GodlySkills I
ok made a new 1 month account and i have played 117 games and i am having trouble leveling up i seem to be getting stuck on every level idk whats he prob

we win everygame like 50 to 5 and i dont understand y we arent lvling up aster seeing how the teams we are playing cant compete with us so do i have to startlosing in order to level up like i should

ex. i am a 11 in TS and i have played 50 something gamesand havent lost yet

the same is hapening with the 3 friends i am playing with WHATS GOING ON
What is your GT?

  • 01.29.2008 8:15 AM PDT

Posted by: Y0uthinasia
why don't you just say "If you're stuck at one level, try doing this, or this"?

that's be way more helpful
If you're stuck at one level, try winning consistently against equally or higher skilled opponents without playing in a mixed party or with only the same teammates. It's only on every other page in this thread but that's OK.

  • 01.29.2008 8:17 AM PDT

Posted by: iTz x FaTaL BR
If anyone who works for bungie sees this will you please send me a personal message, i have a serious problem to address (not dealing with you guys at all i swear)
Your best bet is to PM one of them or a mod. I doubt they will PM you since they are usually pretty busy people.

  • 01.29.2008 8:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: I PUNCH WOMEN69
this is the answer to the ranking system. see you guys just need to be awesome at halo 3 like me. Ya sure it takes a billion games to level up, but if you don't lose like me, you eventually will level up. Ya I get pissed when i don't level after winning 20+ games but the answer is...win more games. That's why i have a 50 in team slayer and team doubles and currently working on my 50 in lone wolves...If anyone needs help getting boosted up send me a message i like doing charity work.


Have you ever even played Halo 3?
Or do you have a different gamertag?

  • 01.29.2008 10:43 AM PDT
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What does it mean when a player might we say be a "captain" but when you look back at his rankings, gunner sergeant grade 4 and 3 is dimmer then grade 2 and 1... what does this mean?

  • 01.29.2008 10:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: LMAO NUB BBQ
Is something with the ranking system screwed up right now??? I have like 70 total games played, I just won 25+ games in a row at level 26 and 28. No one on our party leveled up at all except for 1 game we all moved up 2 levels. Glitched??? Will we all suddenly move up like 10 levels or something?


I looked up your history and it seemed like you were ranking up generally normal.
You kind of exaggerated, but I'm impressed with your skill, being so unexperienced. If you keep at it, I wouldn't be suprised if you achieved 40's to upper 40's soon.
Just keep at it. To be a 34 at 75 games played is really good.

  • 01.29.2008 10:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: CLD007
What does it mean when a player might we say be a "captain" but when you look back at his rankings, gunner sergeant grade 4 and 3 is dimmer then grade 2 and 1... what does this mean?


This means that they skipped those grades of gunnery sergeant because their ranked skill level was over 10.
The numbers next to the side mean that you need to have that skill level to become a player of that rank.
For example, I'm a Colonel Grade 2. I don't have a 45 in anything, so I haven't ranked up to brigadier yet. If I get certain amounts of experience, I'll rank up in my grade of colonel, not my rank.

  • 01.29.2008 10:54 AM PDT

I agree, this was very helpful for me, thanks Sticky!

  • 01.29.2008 11:15 AM PDT
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ok my gamertag is I GodlySkills i yea i kno i messed up the second i o well but anyways i have played 117 games and havent lost i have played and won all 60 dt games and remain a 30 then i see kids who have 20 less games and are like 35

people say play consistent i do i win everygame my at least 20 so y am i stuck i m playing the same skilled kids and i dont mean to be trashing them its just i play at a better level they take no effort to beat. so wouldnt it make since to rank me up faster so that i can play aganist higher levels who can offer me a actually effort

idk i read some posts bout this mu??? thing i dont rally get it but the leveling system doesnt make since i should fly past the lower lvls so that they can play kids more around there skill lvl

  • 01.29.2008 11:37 AM PDT

Posted by: Garman
ok my gamertag is I GodlySkills i yea i kno i messed up the second i o well but anyways i have played 117 games and havent lost i have played and won all 60 dt games and remain a 30 then i see kids who have 20 less games and are like 35

people say play consistent i do i win everygame my at least 20 so y am i stuck i m playing the same skilled kids and i dont mean to be trashing them its just i play at a better level they take no effort to beat. so wouldnt it make since to rank me up faster so that i can play aganist higher levels who can offer me a actually effort

idk i read some posts bout this mu??? thing i dont rally get it but the leveling system doesnt make since i should fly past the lower lvls so that they can play kids more around there skill lvl
It looks like you guys are only playing together. There is a known issue (Bungie is aware of it) where teams that ONLY play together level up slowly and eventually get stuck around level 14/15 in TS. Basically, the system cannot mathmatically determine your individual skill when you guys only play with each other on the same team. I know it is kind of bunk but that is why. So far, the only way to around this is to play an unknown amount of games with someone else or randoms. This will be true for any team playlist including Team Doubles and Team Slayer.

  • 01.29.2008 12:20 PM PDT

Shoot First Never Ask Questions Later

Thanks so much cuz ive been wondering y my skill lvl hasnt been goin up

  • 01.29.2008 3:42 PM PDT
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me and my brother played 5 doubles games, and one them all in a row, and then we finally lost our sixth game, and my skill went from 35 to 32. just from that one loss. i don't want to sound like i'm complaining, but i'm too ignorant to understand this thread and all of the details. can someone put it it laman's terms, why i went down so quickly? thank you!

  • 01.29.2008 6:42 PM PDT
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Ah I think the system is pretty clever .. So if you suck at Oddball your low stigma wont f-up your level (i'd know since im horrorible at Oddball)
XD


Thankx for taking the time to type that all up OP :)

  • 01.29.2008 6:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: I PUNCH WOMEN69
this is the answer to the ranking system. see you guys just need to be awesome at halo 3 like me. Ya sure it takes a billion games to level up, but if you don't lose like me, you eventually will level up. Ya I get pissed when i don't level after winning 20+ games but the answer is...win more games. That's why i have a 50 in team slayer and team doubles and currently working on my 50 in lone wolves...If anyone needs help getting boosted up send me a message i like doing charity work.


Have you ever even played Halo 3?
Or do you have a different gamertag?


I have a different gamertag that i actually play on. Its Pet Mr Frisky

  • 01.30.2008 1:19 PM PDT
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Does this mean all the people complaining about being "stuck" at a level is not possible? Or can you reach a point to where you are there for good?

  • 01.30.2008 2:09 PM PDT
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Bungie is not cool. I have won 34 double team games in a row, and im only lvl 16. We win with scores such as 25-7 almost every game. This is getting rediculous.

  • 01.30.2008 2:27 PM PDT
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so by looking at my ranks will i be a luetenant when i have 70 exp?

  • 01.30.2008 6:20 PM PDT

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Hit me up

Very nice man and thanks for the info

  • 01.30.2008 10:25 PM PDT

Posted by: CUbulletsponge
Does this mean all the people complaining about being "stuck" at a level is not possible? Or can you reach a point to where you are there for good?
In general, no. Your skill level can always change. If you start losing a lot, you will start to fall. If you start winning a lot, you will eventually go up. The more games you play, the longer it will take for your skill to go up.

There are a few issues where a person can get "stuck". Playing ALL your TS games with the same guys is one issue. Playing in a mixed skill party is another case where a person may not move up. Both of these can be corrected by either playing with different people or playing with people your same general skill level.

  • 01.31.2008 6:16 AM PDT