- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: Jedi Vigilante
Great explanation, and I liked the examples. I can see how the system would work flawlessly in Lone Wolves, but it seems markedly unfair for Team playlists, and it does seem "broken" occasionally. Roughly half of the Team Slayer games I've played have been with a friend of mine, AgentExlax. Just today, we played five games, both of us starting at skill 21. We won the first, lost the second, won the 3rd and 4th, but lost the last.
Now here's where things get tricky. We both went up a rank with the first win (kudos to me for a running riot and only one death) and we both went down a rank from the loss (it happens to the best of us, and I am NOT the best). With the next game, we both went back up to 22, and then up again to 23 with the following victory. With the final loss, however, I went down to 22 (understandable, if unwelcome) and he stayed at 23.
Now, as I said, about half of the TS games I've played have been with AgantExlax (50 or so out of about 100, we started playing together when he was skill 11 and I was 19) so our recent game history in TS has been exactly the same, if you only look at win/loss. In all but the final game, the skill ranks were nearly identical. For the last game, our team had a level 27, 26, and me and Agent at 23. The other team had 3 lvl 25's and a 24, so we were the lowest ranked players. With the explantion given as to how the ranking system works, I can see the loss of rank with that last game, BUT WHY JUST ME. AgentExlax has nearly an identicaly win/loss spread as me, but he didn't go down.
I'm sure it sounds like I'm whining, and to some degree I know I am, but I'm just trying to figure out WHY (why I went down, not why I'm whining). If there is a perfectly reasonable explanation, I would be glad to hear it, no matter what it is. Hell, if you want the exact stats, just look them up with a player search for Jedi Vigilante or AgentExlax. They are the 5 games from 3/3/08 at 11:16:12 AM to 3/3/08 at 11:53:37 AM, starting with the Shotty Sniper on Snowbound to the Team Slayer on Narrows. You can even look at my entire Halo 3 game history and run it through the numbers if you really feel like proving me wrong and rubbing it in my face. Either way, I would just like a reason besides "shut up and stop complaining" so that I know I haven't accidentally pissed somebody off at Bungie and am never going to break 25 in TS.
You guys has seperate TS lives before you hooked up, which means differing sigma's. Don't expect to behave exactly the same as him from a ranking perspective, no matter how many you have played together recently.
And for clarification, the system doesn't work perfectly with LW's. Although you avoid mixed parties, the system still suffers from its sigma flaws. As well, it only works as well as the matchmaking works, which can be quite suspect sometimes.