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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.

Posted by: evan6992
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I have a quick question...

If i quit out of games in another play list will it effect my ranking up speed in a different one?


no


you sure?
Yes, he's sure

  • 05.06.2008 6:00 PM PDT

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After searching these pages I have found no mention of it, so I would like to bring to your attention the possibility that time is factored into those equations.

3-4 months ago, I was leveling up like crazy. I was still having single-win skill progressions in the 45-47 area. Then, life called, and I got off for 3 months.

When I came back, I got got back into my rythm in other playlists (which, according to the facts, should not affect my slayer rank), and even became better than before. By that I mean, I couldn't use the BR against other BR's 3-4 months ago, and since the playlist wasn't so BR laden back then, I could get away with it.

Now after coming back, I'm more in the 3-4 win area to level up or down, with no change to the amount of wins or losses.

Is it possible that prolonged inactivity can cause the system to forget your mu or sigma? Thus desiring you to reprove yourself before it takes you back to the same level? Thanks.

  • 05.06.2008 7:36 PM PDT

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  • 05.07.2008 12:37 AM PDT
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start a new account and kill newbs. this is what the true skill system rewards ....
...no wait the newbs are second accounts

nice ranking system for a video game though : D

  • 05.07.2008 2:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Silentone2
After searching these pages I have found no mention of it, so I would like to bring to your attention the possibility that time is factored into those equations.

3-4 months ago, I was leveling up like crazy. I was still having single-win skill progressions in the 45-47 area. Then, life called, and I got off for 3 months.

When I came back, I got got back into my rythm in other playlists (which, according to the facts, should not affect my slayer rank), and even became better than before. By that I mean, I couldn't use the BR against other BR's 3-4 months ago, and since the playlist wasn't so BR laden back then, I could get away with it.

Now after coming back, I'm more in the 3-4 win area to level up or down, with no change to the amount of wins or losses.

Is it possible that prolonged inactivity can cause the system to forget your mu or sigma? Thus desiring you to reprove yourself before it takes you back to the same level? Thanks.
There is no indication anywhere that time is factored in to the equation. It is very difficult to make it in to 45+ range with a high sigma unless you won almost every game. Going up or down after ever 1 or 2 games is very unusual. The fact that you can still go up or down after 3 or 4 games is an indicator that your skill level is still pretty fluid and you have a relatively high sigma.

I didn't look through much of your history but I did see you've played some games with teammates 20 levels below you. Keep in mind that those games are given less weight in skill updates so you get very little for the win. Also, going up after 3 or 4 wins at your level is good and about the best you'll get at this point. For some, by the time they get to 45+, they've played so many games and won and lost so many that it takes 10 wins to go up one level.

Anyway, I do not believe time is factored in. You have the fact you played in a mixed skill party, you are winning and losing (not just winning every game to keep your sigma high) and as the population matures it becomes harder to get to the top.

  • 05.07.2008 5:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: evan6992
Posted by: Baaaaaaaaaaaaah
Posted by: evan6992
I have a quick question...

If i quit out of games in another play list will it effect my ranking up speed in a different one?


no


you sure?


yes

  • 05.07.2008 8:54 AM PDT

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This is a really cool thread. After reading this, it explains a lot. thx

  • 05.07.2008 2:22 PM PDT

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Nicely put that was pretty good but I have a bad attention span so I forget easily but this interested me for some reason!!!

  • 05.07.2008 2:24 PM PDT
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very nice post!!!!

  • 05.07.2008 4:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Trochan001
This thread is a perfect example of how every question in history has been asked in this forum.

A-mazing.

  • 05.07.2008 8:01 PM PDT
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Question:

Does your rank effect how you will level up?

For example, i am a brigadier grad 2 with 1340 xp, will this effect how many games it will take to get my 50?
P.S. I am a 49 in TS

Thanks, Great Post.

  • 05.08.2008 5:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: hitman456
Question:

Does your rank effect how you will level up?

For example, i am a brigadier grad 2 with 1340 xp, will this effect how many games it will take to get my 50?
P.S. I am a 49 in TS

Thanks, Great Post.


The things that will affect how long it takes to rank up:
1) your sigma
2) opponent's sigma
3) opponents MU

  • 05.08.2008 10:20 AM PDT
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very informative post. thanks

  • 05.08.2008 2:42 PM PDT

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no offense seriously
but this is way too long i stopped in paragraph 2
Edit: what i did read was pretty good though =)

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  • 05.08.2008 6:26 PM PDT

Thanks for the help =]

  • 05.08.2008 10:21 PM PDT
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One question, how do you get the rouge armour. people have told me different things and I don't know which is the right way. I've heard 3 no-scopes in one game, become a spartan officer...

  • 05.13.2008 7:44 PM PDT
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Question,

I don't know if this has been answered, and I am sorry if it has. Is their a way I can get my skill reset or at least my rank? I don't want to be an Officer really I'd like the Gunner Sergeant ranks much better :)

  • 05.13.2008 9:59 PM PDT

Posted by: SSgtAnsell
Question,

I don't know if this has been answered, and I am sorry if it has. Is their a way I can get my skill reset or at least my rank? I don't want to be an Officer really I'd like the Gunner Sergeant ranks much better :)
No, there is no way to reset your skill or rank.

  • 05.14.2008 5:33 AM PDT
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i'm stuck in the 25-27 ranked slayer levels becuase when i'm on fire, the rest of my time plays like level 2's and it sucks because i can never get on the winning team and level up....... it shouldnt always be based on winning because of situations like this, it should be based on your performance

  • 05.14.2008 10:35 AM PDT
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Great post. Thanks for the info

  • 05.14.2008 1:56 PM PDT
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So, I'm a little confused as to how this works. I get the team part, but what about Lone Wolves? Is it still 65% winning? And if so, does that apply only to first place or to top three in general?

  • 05.14.2008 7:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: I Z Krack I
i'm stuck in the 25-27 ranked slayer levels becuase when i'm on fire, the rest of my time plays like level 2's and it sucks because i can never get on the winning team and level up....... it shouldnt always be based on winning because of situations like this, it should be based on your performance

People complain about this all the time. Unfortunately, that's how MM works. If you don't like it play lonewolves, play social, or only play team with friends.

  • 05.14.2008 7:54 PM PDT
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Just a small question:

How would I calculate my win/loss percentage in a playlist? My Team SWAT playlist is 62 wins/11 losses = 73 games total I've played in ranked SWAT.

So how would I calculate my win/loss percentage? Is it 11 x .62?

  • 05.15.2008 10:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Domino Theory 2
Just a small question:

How would I calculate my win/loss percentage in a playlist? My Team SWAT playlist is 62 wins/11 losses = 73 games total I've played in ranked SWAT.

So how would I calculate my win/loss percentage? Is it 11 x .62?

It's wins divided by total games played. Though for the percentage the OP talks about, you only need to worry about your last 50 games. Your overall would be 62/73= just about 85% or a .849

  • 05.15.2008 12:36 PM PDT