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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.
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Ummm yeah this is copypasta from a stickied thread posted MONTHS ago. i remember this. use search bar and im sure you will find it.

why claim something as your own, thats stupid

  • 10.30.2008 12:49 AM PDT

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Ummm yeah this is copypasta from a stickied thread posted MONTHS ago. i remember this. use search bar and im sure you will find it.

why claim something as your own, thats stupid
Who and what are you talking about? This thread is almost a year old - reading FTW. This thread was stickied and now now it isn't and hasn't since the site update a few months ago. No one is passing this off as their own but the OP hasn't posted in several months.

  • 10.30.2008 5:03 PM PDT
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I have a shot question. What qualifies as a win to the ranking system? In the top half or first? Also, if you're last and everyone quits making you first then does it count?

Thanks in advance.

  • 10.31.2008 6:27 PM PDT

ive won aand had my rank go down it also takes alot of wins to raise it and only acoule of losses to lower it this ranking system doesnt work

  • 11.01.2008 9:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Plyc
I have a shot question. What qualifies as a win to the ranking system? In the top half or first? Also, if you're last and everyone quits making you first then does it count?

Thanks in advance.
If you are talking about Lone Wolves it is a little complicated. You must place higher than people of a lower skill to gain anything form the win in terms of skill. Coming in 1st against people of lower skill does little for you. Coming in 4th against people higher skill than you will still give you skill.

If you simply mean EXP, then it's 4th or higher now.

  • 11.03.2008 7:32 AM PDT
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this is very informative from what i read(didnt read it all too long LOL) so maybe i missed a part that explains why i win like 10 games in a row on my high skill then lose 1 game (which happens to be 3 vs 4 and we only lose by 3 kills!) and i go back down a level. it just seems like you do so well and work so hard just to get dropped back to where you were before. makes me think there is a few flaws in the system.

  • 11.03.2008 1:47 PM PDT

Get WorkPLaced!!

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this is very informative from what i read(didnt read it all too long LOL) so maybe i missed a part that explains why i win like 10 games in a row on my high skill then lose 1 game (which happens to be 3 vs 4 and we only lose by 3 kills!) and i go back down a level. it just seems like you do so well and work so hard just to get dropped back to where you were before. makes me think there is a few flaws in the system.


You didn't even read it all?
The system works the way it is supposed to.

  • 11.03.2008 1:50 PM PDT
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i think he did a great job explaining the new ranking system. At first i was a little confused about my not leveling up but this changed alot about it

  • 11.08.2008 6:17 AM PDT
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So what if I completely missed an achievement for advancing to spartan officer?

  • 11.10.2008 1:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: Striiid3r
this is very informative from what i read(didnt read it all too long LOL) so maybe i missed a part that explains why i win like 10 games in a row on my high skill then lose 1 game (which happens to be 3 vs 4 and we only lose by 3 kills!) and i go back down a level. it just seems like you do so well and work so hard just to get dropped back to where you were before. makes me think there is a few flaws in the system.


You didn't even read it all?
The system works the way it is supposed to.


Yes the system works the way it's supposed to, but the players aren't.

With all these 2nd accounts flooding in, the system assumes every average player to be completely awful at this game, and subsequently robs him of all his Sigma in NO-TIME.

Also these 2nd accounts regularly beat the 1st accounts (with a higher rank including a more mediocre game history) at most levels with the result of "rank locks" just about everywhere.

To even have a chance to rank up at any higher levels of Halo3, you have to get real (and I mean REAL) skillful at the game before you even start out matchmaking.

That's a FLAWED system.

[Edited on 11.10.2008 5:30 AM PST]

  • 11.10.2008 5:23 AM PDT

Good job on the post it made a lot of sence.

  • 11.10.2008 6:32 AM PDT
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I have a question, u seem to kno a crapload of a lot about halo 3, so i was wondering. I got security and katana and stuff like that and i was really excited about it, but then i turned off my xbox and it was just randomly gone. i tried resetting my xbox several times, and restarting it, but nothing worked. It took away my security AND my katana, can ya help me out? and btw some other of my friends got the 1000 g in halo and had lietenant, and had all the skulls, but didnt get it like i did b4 using it. y is this?

  • 11.14.2008 11:01 AM PDT
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I guess I understand the ranking a little better now.......I have playing with 2 friends and we all started out the same now they are way further in number than I and we haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks so much for your insight.

  • 11.14.2008 9:11 PM PDT

tote trays
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awesome. that anwsers a lot of questions.

  • 11.16.2008 5:36 AM PDT
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matchmaking isn't complicated at all...

Bugnie already explained it awhile back...

You will level up faster if you beat higher levels and de-level faster if you lose to lower levels. The same holds true for the opposite: you won't gain much by beating lower levels, and you won't lose much by losing to higher levels.

This was all explained back a long time ago...




What I didn't find in your thread was how exactly Bungie finds these supposed "matched players"...

It bothers me that no matter what, at least 90% of my games, I always get the wrost teammates. If I don't go 20+ kills we will lose for sure.

My theory: Bungie sees how good you are and puts you up with player that will balance you out. Unfortunately, since I do good most games, I get bad players... and this really pisses me off. How the hell can high ranking players in double team and team slayer be so bad?

I have noticed that if I lose a few games AND I did bad, I would then get really good players the next team, and they would carry me.
I asked Bungie this, but of course, received no reply...

I would complain some more but I have things to do so, that's it for now...

  • 11.16.2008 9:32 AM PDT

Could someone refer me to the area it talks about how negative experience affects the trueskill system? Or has it been talked about yet?

  • 11.18.2008 11:40 PM PDT
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awsome :) but something tells me you just want recon from this...

  • 11.18.2008 11:46 PM PDT

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Could someone refer me to the area it talks about how negative experience affects the trueskill system? Or has it been talked about yet?
Negative EXP doesn't have any affect on TrueSkill. Many people think it does but strictly speaking, EXP is not used by TrueSkill. Sigma is the mechanism at work for those that quit a bunch of games to try and boost or level up quicker.

  • 11.19.2008 5:35 AM PDT
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alright so can anyone tell my why ive won 40 ts games, in a row, 20 of them against ppl 20- 30 ranks higher than me, and i only have a 19?. ps. i have lost only 2 games on this account.

[Edited on 11.21.2008 9:04 PM PST]

  • 11.21.2008 8:26 PM PDT
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Copy and paste?

  • 11.22.2008 2:30 PM PDT
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I know this is a bit random, but can any really good Halo 3 players give me free Halo 3 training. If anyone has any tips for the battle rifle, the sniper, maps or basically anything other than non pro weapons and campaign please send me a message but dont reply in this forum because that will get a bit messy and I dont want to change the subject for everyone else aswell. So send me a message on my bungie.net profile or on my Xbox 360 Live profile which is Major Halman. It's spelled just as I just spelled it. So if you have some tips, message me and I'll add you and you can show me some stuff that has helped you. :) P.S. I'm only doing it in a random forum because I can't make a forum since i just joined bungie.net. So sorry for interupting everyone.

  • 11.23.2008 6:07 AM PDT
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very good info!

  • 11.24.2008 7:49 AM PDT
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Some people know my real name. Please don't use it. I am Icouri as far as anyone is concerned. The internet is not a place for anybody's real identity.

Wow..after I spent a moment to make sense of the equations (being out of school for so long sucks), it makes more sense. Thanks for the effort and I'll try to remember it when I cant get past level 40. lol

  • 11.24.2008 7:18 PM PDT