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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.
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Posted by: Turntable Junky
Cheers for the write up. Tis a shame this thread will probably die as the majority of users on this site won't understand it. But cheers anyway.


oh the irony.

  • 03.15.2009 12:49 PM PDT

I am 40? Really? How did that happen?

K/O indicator:
I have been thinking about my original proposal + would like to make a SMALL change:
-5 you go down 1,
-10, you go down 2,
+5 you go up 1,
+10 you go up 2.

I would be sent off to level 3, maybe 2, in no time flat, if this were implemented.

  • 03.17.2009 2:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Mo the Surfer
k/d is, to me, a very easy indicator of skill. I am constantly in the - (neg) side of the equation, and I still rank up. I end up being the guy who is the worst on your team, or the one person who is the low scoring bullet catcher. In other words, I am your head shot. I am right now playing against players who WAY out class me. BUT!! Because of the new system, I get sent up.
Here is my proposal. -10 k/o, you go down. +10 k/o you go up. Anything else, you stay where you are. Simple.
Your K/D ratio is not the best indicator of your performance in all playlists. Think about any type of objective playlist. Think about how difficult it would be to categorize all possible "skill indicators" while playing a slayer or objective game. What about the player who doesn't have the best K/D ratio but was the team leader as far as communication goes. Or the guy defending your flag the whole game. I could go on and on but the point is, the best way to determine your skill if your team wins or loses.

  • 03.18.2009 5:45 AM PDT
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Explain this to me then.

I win 32 games straight in slayer facing level 50's 49's ect. I ranked up 4 times over a 32 game winning streak. I lost 1 and derank twice.

If this is what they call fair ranking then somethings wrong with a level 50 thats only has 25 exp, when I have more than 300 and a 32 game streak.


[Edited on 03.18.2009 5:51 AM PDT]

  • 03.18.2009 5:50 AM PDT

Posted by: That Canada
Explain this to me then.

I win 32 games straight in slayer facing level 50's 49's ect. I ranked up 4 times over a 32 game winning streak. I lost 1 and derank twice.

If this is what they call fair ranking then somethings wrong with a level 50 thats only has 25 exp, when I have more than 300 and a 32 game streak.
For most of that streak you were partied up with a guy who started at 1 while you were in your 30's. When you have a mixed skilled party (more than 10 skill levels apart) you don't get much credit for the win, especially if you are the highest skill level in the party.

I also didn't see you lose 2 skill levels after 1 loss. I saw your streak end with a loss and you kept your 44. You then won 1 and lost 1 and went to 43. You went back to 44 after your next game which you won. You then bounced back and forth between 43 and 44 while you would lose a couple and win a couple. I only noticed you face 49/50 in a couple games. You definitely did not win 32 straight against 50's like you make it sound.

Yes it sucks getting than many wins in a row but playing in a mixed skilled party really slows you down. Especially when the guy on your team starts as a 1 and is pulling in lower skill level opponents for you to play against.

  • 03.18.2009 6:54 AM PDT
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You know what it strange, 'mu' is the letter M, and sigma is the letter S.
So the Mu and Sigma is actually all about MS.... St00pid microsoft!

  • 03.20.2009 7:23 AM PDT

thanks alot now i know why every one seems better than me...or is it because i suck???

i wish i knew......................................................... ....................................................

  • 03.20.2009 11:16 PM PDT
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well i am a 19 in swat and so is my friend. We made new accounts and have played 73 swat games and have won 70 of them and of course only lost 3 .. we were stuck at 15's even when we were winning 20 in a row.. why can't we ever rank up? we also played one sniper game and won that.

  • 03.21.2009 1:24 AM PDT
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So i played and won 20 - 30 games in a row last night? just romped em. Becasue we have new accounts. we have been trying to play to get our ranks up so we dont play noobs everygame. but since playing someone lower than you gives you 1/5 of a skill point. we never ranked up. and only played against levels too low because bungie wouldnt level us up. FIX THIS POOP!

  • 03.21.2009 1:35 PM PDT

Ok I have a confusing question. Lets say my OVERALL EXP is 2200. My EXP in Team Snipers is 100 but I am a level 50. Would I show up as a General in my service record or do I have to get 500 EXP in team snipers to become an overall Service Record General?

  • 03.22.2009 12:38 AM PDT
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ok this is excellent info to a part-time killer like myself. it's usually so hard to get straight-up info...thanks a million

  • 03.22.2009 12:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: Bulkney Spears
Ok I have a confusing question. Lets say my OVERALL EXP is 2200. My EXP in Team Snipers is 100 but I am a level 50. Would I show up as a General in my service record or do I have to get 500 EXP in team snipers to become an overall Service Record General?


I put an answer to your question over in the MLG forums (you asked there as well).

  • 03.23.2009 10:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Swat PROZ
well i am a 19 in swat and so is my friend. We made new accounts and have played 73 swat games and have won 70 of them and of course only lost 3 .. we were stuck at 15's even when we were winning 20 in a row.. why can't we ever rank up? we also played one sniper game and won that.


Thats covered throughout this thread in depth. Stop playing with only the same teammates.

  • 03.23.2009 10:34 AM PDT

absolutely clueless =o

-Squidga

Thank you for this very in-depth guide on how the Halo 3 ranking system works, especially organising it and explaining it clearly so one can understand it while reading. I finally have an understanding why it takes so a a few games to level up in Lone Wolves and Team Slayer.

  • 03.23.2009 11:07 AM PDT

I dont believe this is true. If you're sayin that you level down and up in equal win loss proportions then how come i have won 12 games, not levels up, lost 2 then levelled down?

  • 03.24.2009 7:29 AM PDT

Posted by: AtP Squirrel
I dont believe this is true. If you're sayin that you level down and up in equal win loss proportions then how come i have won 12 games, not levels up, lost 2 then levelled down?
It's not that you go up and down in equal proportions. The amount of wins or losses really has little to do with it. It's the skill level of the player you beat and lose to that makes all the difference. Winning against lower skilled people gets you very little. Losing to lower skilled people will hurt you a lot.

  • 03.24.2009 7:47 AM PDT

My friend and I had never played DT till last night. we won 43 games and lost 1. We are now lvl 21. this system is stupid as hell.

  • 03.24.2009 12:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: II SiAo II
My friend and I had never played DT till last night. we won 43 games and lost 1. We are now lvl 21. this system is stupid as hell.


It's because the system doesn't know which one of you is causing the wins. You have to give the system an opportunity to test you individually. Split up for 5 games it will make all the difference in the world.

  • 03.25.2009 8:31 AM PDT

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Good Post !

I still think this true skill system is a joke I'm a level 30 highest rank and in Team Slayer I am constantly coming up against like three level 40-50's and one level 5 and this is purely because of the new ranking system and boosters abusing it.

We were told to wait it out for the level system to level out, but I have dropped a load of levels because of this. This system really dosn't give the regular player who's never going to be a level 50 a fair crack of the whip. In regular games I'm quite often MVP and more than often go positive yet for every 4-5 games I win and go up I play one bad one still go positive and go down.

Which is why I play CoD WaW 5 because that ranking system makes more sense !

  • 03.26.2009 6:01 AM PDT

Nice thread

  • 03.26.2009 6:07 AM PDT

Wait until you break into the 40's. That's when the joke really comes around. You can be a 41, and get two team mates that are 42's and your four will be a 40.

It'll pair you up against a 33, 47 and two 44. LoL You basically play anyone from 30's to 50's once you hit highest skill of 40.

  • 03.26.2009 6:10 AM PDT
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on a new account playing from 0 to 30 in team slayer has been a joke. i have never leveled up so slow. it teams us up with lower level people all the time, our skill over powers them and we dont go up. never ending cycle.

  • 03.26.2009 1:34 PM PDT

~~~Rufe Dude~~~

God this helps but i still don't get it

  • 03.29.2009 1:10 PM PDT