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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.

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FINALLY I UNDERSTAND Y I DONT LVL UP IN TEAM SLAYER

  • 08.11.2009 11:04 PM PDT

very good this will help many people, thanks for the thread

  • 08.13.2009 9:51 AM PDT

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hmm wonder why the op was banned?

  • 08.13.2009 10:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Joshuhwha
hmm wonder why the op was banned?


The OP was not banned, he is a Forum Modderator and was getting to many Pm's about this...so he deleted his name...had he been banned the thread would be locked...

  • 08.13.2009 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: Delta 15t
Posted by: Joshuhwha
hmm wonder why the op was banned?


The OP was not banned, he is a Forum Modderator and was getting to many Pm's about this...so he deleted his name...had he been banned the thread would be locked...
He wasn't banned or a MOD, he was inactive for over a year and his account was deleted. This thread dropped 2 months after H3 release in Nov of 07.

  • 08.13.2009 1:03 PM PDT
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ok well the mu and sigma system still makes no sense to me at all. but what i was getting from all that is it basically takes the info from your last 50 games and determines whether or not u will rank up and how fast you will do so.

three of my friends and i started new accounts to play team slayer, so we were all at the same skill level to play with each other and get our ranks up, now out of 200 plus ranked team slayer games we were only highest skill of 15-20, with only 20-25 loses. thats the situation, now heres my question if we start out with 100% sigma, and sigma meaning you level faster then why after 20-30 wins in a row not one of us level up?

here's another example one of my friends had a win percentage of over 80 and was stuck at somewhere around a 27 in team slayer for about 200 games. so basically what im asking is if he wins 160 out of 200 games why would he be locked at 27?

i hope that these questions can give me a more in-depth view of the way we level up, and that maybe BUNGIE can do something to change the ranking system like maybe instead of not only going off how many games you win but also factor in game performance like +k/d. how fair is it if there are four guys destroying people in team slayer, cause they are stuck at low levels due to the way the ranking system is set up. oh and while those four guys are dominating in team slayer, the people trying their hardest to gradually get better and get their skill level up are stuck where they are at cause we all know that for every lose it will take more wins to go up. this is one of the reasons why so many of the people i used to have on my friendslist have stopped playing halo and started playing call of duty.

come on BUNGIE please fix the one and only problem i have with halo 3.

  • 08.18.2009 2:13 AM PDT

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ah i sorta see now thats a good guide.

  • 08.18.2009 1:19 PM PDT

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So you are saying that if you are not already good at halo, you are going to loose a bunch and when you finally get good, you are going to take forever to rank up because you have so many losses

  • 08.20.2009 3:23 PM PDT
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The ranking system does not want you to be a 50 if you are not a 50 skill-wise. Basically, you should stop worrying about levels. The system is there so that you get even matches when you play, not as a goal for you to reach. In Gears, it is the same thing, just the number is invisible.

  • 08.22.2009 10:22 AM PDT
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so i lag out alot and can't help it, can i make it where that doesn't have an effect on my ranking? cause my team usually loses when i lag out, or we win and i don't go up. and don't go telling me to get a better connection cause i don't pay the internet bills around my house therefore i have no control over it.

  • 08.23.2009 4:18 PM PDT

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A friend and I were playing doubles. I was trying to get him his 45, he was a 43. Got him his 44, and we were on a role, won about 7 matches in a row and then lost one by only a few points and boom, he deranked to a 43, doesn't make a lickofsense.

  • 08.26.2009 11:32 AM PDT
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Can someone tell me if you rank up slower if you are a commander in a playlist you have never played before than you would in the same playlist on a fresh account?

  • 08.26.2009 6:53 PM PDT
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umm at one point on another of my accs i had a 49 with 6 wins in a row on it wtf? i had 150 exp to it didnt make sense it was a fresh 49 with 6 wins?

  • 08.26.2009 7:06 PM PDT
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great post... completely agree

  • 08.27.2009 12:39 AM PDT
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i win so many games in a row and never rank up, just today i was playin doubles and im only a 33 and it took like 20 games to get from 31 to 33

  • 08.27.2009 12:47 AM PDT

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Very informative. I was taking a look at the TrueSkill calculators by Microsoft but didn't have a clue what Mu or Sigma was. And was wondering if there was anyway to find out your own Mu or Sigma. Guess not.

The calculator(s) are here btw:
TrueSkill Calculators
TrueSkill FAQ
Both from Microsoft.com

  • 08.28.2009 5:40 AM PDT

Posted by: RecklessOWNAG3
Very informative. I was taking a look at the TrueSkill calculators by Microsoft but didn't have a clue what Mu or Sigma was. And was wondering if there was anyway to find out your own Mu or Sigma. Guess not.

The calculator(s) are here btw:
TrueSkill Calculators
TrueSkill FAQ
Both from Microsoft.com
No, there isn't a way to get your own MU and sigma values for each playlist.

  • 08.28.2009 8:10 AM PDT
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Very Helpfull thanks alot : )

  • 08.29.2009 9:04 PM PDT
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No way...something isnt right about your theory of the ranking system. For 1, you didnt include the reasons for why you rank faster going in with randoms than going in with friends. My brother and I went into Team Slayer with brand new accounts, only playing that playlist. For some odd reason, we had 3 losses after 100 games and only had a highest skill of 30. The ranking system is meant to progress the better players to a higher skill of games, so that we dont continue to wreck the terrible 30s. That would be great if it worked like that, however after a 60 game win streak (ranking up terribly slow) we lost one against people with the same skill rank but we deranked 2 skill points. Perfections, Rampages, 70% sniper head shots, and more Frenzys then God....we still didnt rank. Bungie gets mad about people destroying bad kids, and making it not fun for them but they refuse to fix the ranking system. If you are consistantly going positive double digits...you are obviously a more skilled player than the players that you are playing. Thanks Bungie...thanks for helping me send more kids to Call of Duty. They hate Halo because of me.

  • 08.30.2009 4:22 PM PDT

Wait, so the more you win your sigma gets lowered?

  • 08.30.2009 4:30 PM PDT
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Cool.

  • 08.30.2009 6:54 PM PDT

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No way...something isnt right about your theory of the ranking system. For 1, you didnt include the reasons for why you rank faster going in with randoms than going in with friends. My brother and I went into Team Slayer with brand new accounts, only playing that playlist. For some odd reason, we had 3 losses after 100 games and only had a highest skill of 30. The ranking system is meant to progress the better players to a higher skill of games, so that we dont continue to wreck the terrible 30s. That would be great if it worked like that, however after a 60 game win streak (ranking up terribly slow) we lost one against people with the same skill rank but we deranked 2 skill points. Perfections, Rampages, 70% sniper head shots, and more Frenzys then God....we still didnt rank. Bungie gets mad about people destroying bad kids, and making it not fun for them but they refuse to fix the ranking system. If you are consistantly going positive double digits...you are obviously a more skilled player than the players that you are playing. Thanks Bungie...thanks for helping me send more kids to Call of Duty. They hate Halo because of me.
This issue has been addressed on every other page of this thread. PLaying on new accounts with only the same teammates and no one else will make gaining skill almost impossible. If you guys split up and play 5 or 6 games with randoms and then team back up, you will gains levels much easier. When you only play with the same teammates for ALL of your games the system cannot judge your individual skill and gives you almost nothing for the wins.

  • 09.04.2009 6:52 AM PDT

really good, but stil doesn't explain why I won 17 against higher opponents and only went up 2.

  • 09.04.2009 11:55 AM PDT
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Very informative. Nice post.

  • 09.05.2009 11:45 AM PDT

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  • 09.05.2009 7:56 PM PDT