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Subject: In depth explanation of the Halo 3 skill ranking system.

Has anyone experience leveling down from winning? My friend and I won over forty straight games and on more than one occasion a piece we leveled down from wins in addition to the fact that it took way longer to level up than usual when using a new account.

  • 01.10.2010 11:27 PM PDT

I'm sorry, I didn't read the 99 pages..but can you explain this to me? I made second accounts to play with my friends because one is already a 50. So We have played 46ish games and lost only 2. One at level 7 and one at level 11, and Now we have 44 EXP and we are level 12. Seriously, We have 33 steak dinners, and I find it stupid that the trueskill rank system cannot see that we are destroying people 50-4. Almost every game we win by a difference of 20+. I will link you to my secondary and you can see for yourself how frustrating TS system is.. Gt Machete is I, GT Maquina and GT Masacre are my friends. We have all played the same games and we cannot rank up, My friend has 8 Perfections and you can see he usually doesn't carry us because we can hold our own. In one game we went 30 and 0....Check the Matchmaking history.

GT Machete

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  • 01.11.2010 4:07 PM PDT

i think this ranking sistem is floored i was in a game and i go 25 kills (team swat) but my team wernt that good althouh there sill was high ther kd with like -7 so we still lost the game ant i lost skill i find this stupid... i think you should get exp for kills not wins

  • 01.12.2010 5:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: x I VISiONs I x
i think this ranking sistem is floored i was in a game and i go 25 kills (team swat) but my team wernt that good althouh there sill was high ther kd with like -7 so we still lost the game ant i lost skill i find this stupid... i think you should get exp for kills not wins



then play lone wolves

  • 01.19.2010 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Insane Onza
I'm sorry, I didn't read the 99 pages..but can you explain this to me? I made second accounts to play with my friends because one is already a 50. So We have played 46ish games and lost only 2. One at level 7 and one at level 11, and Now we have 44 EXP and we are level 12. Seriously, We have 33 steak dinners, and I find it stupid that the trueskill rank system cannot see that we are destroying people 50-4. Almost every game we win by a difference of 20+. I will link you to my secondary and you can see for yourself how frustrating TS system is.. Gt Machete is I, GT Maquina and GT Masacre are my friends. We have all played the same games and we cannot rank up, My friend has 8 Perfections and you can see he usually doesn't carry us because we can hold our own. In one game we went 30 and 0....Check the Matchmaking history.

GT Machete


your not going up cause your playing with the same people.

  • 01.26.2010 9:16 AM PDT

ive been trying to get from a 35 to a 40 forever. i am trying to do it in lonewolves because thats how i got my 35 to begin with but. everytime i play i never rank up. i could play 5 games and win or atleast get second and not rank up. my exp is just 466 i think why can't i rank up? im currently a 30 in lonewolves because i actually ranked up today for the first time in like 7 months. and i went from a 35 to a 29 because i lost like 3 times. i wish sumone could help me.

  • 01.31.2010 10:50 AM PDT

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  • 01.31.2010 3:04 PM PDT

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Place an MA5 down by my feet!Don't cry for me, don't shed no tear!
Just pack my box with PT gear!
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Don't you worry, don't come undone!It's just my ghost on a PT run!

i know it helped me out loads great post

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  • 02.02.2010 9:29 PM PDT
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Excellent. Very impressed with this thread. This clears up so many of my questions about the ranking system. I had a few questions that I would like someone to clear up for me.your

1) Does having a lower amount of experience have anything to do with your mu and sigma rating?
2) And does playing in a party with people who have new accounts affect how your mu and sigma are affected by a win or a loss?

If someone could clear those up for me it would be great. Thanks again for the amazing thread.

  • 02.03.2010 9:31 AM PDT
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That has happened to me a few times. It always happened after I quit out of a game. I might have just been that you quit out of a game and started a new one before the game had time to recalculate your rank after the quit.

  • 02.03.2010 9:35 AM PDT

Excellent thread. On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 20. This thread should be recommended to everyone who wonders how the true skill system really works. Good job.

  • 02.03.2010 10:20 AM PDT

Posted by: I ToOxClutcH I
Excellent. Very impressed with this thread. This clears up so many of my questions about the ranking system. I had a few questions that I would like someone to clear up for me.your

1) Does having a lower amount of experience have anything to do with your mu and sigma rating?
2) And does playing in a party with people who have new accounts affect how your mu and sigma are affected by a win or a loss?

If someone could clear those up for me it would be great. Thanks again for the amazing thread.
1. No

2. Accounts with no games in the playlist have high sigma, which slows all others down.

  • 02.03.2010 10:23 AM PDT
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Thank you very much.

  • 02.04.2010 10:36 AM PDT

I have a question: should I use the preference for a match with people around the same skill level as me, or should I just use the quickest preference before starting matchmaking?

  • 02.05.2010 2:07 PM PDT
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Thank you so much. This was a good read and helped me understand the system ALOT. I was jus about to post a topic asking about the system but saw this in the hot topics...very good read!

  • 02.05.2010 5:49 PM PDT

for example.
If i derank my SWAT skill and that i have less exp, is it going to raise my sigma??? Cuz im stucked at level 43-44 in TS.

  • 02.09.2010 6:51 PM PDT

I hate this system. I'm 98-1 in LW and I'm only a 35. Hell, i only lost my first game on my 97th match, and i went down too!

High sigma + insane win streak = NO LEVEL FOR YOU

  • 02.09.2010 6:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Whitepaws QC
for example.
If i derank my SWAT skill and that i have less exp, is it going to raise my sigma??? Cuz im stucked at level 43-44 in TS.
If you're stuck due to low sigma, deranking is the last thing you should do. No, it does not raise your sigma.

  • 02.09.2010 7:00 PM PDT
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Haha, don't come trash talk me like you know me. GTFO

This system does indeed bite. However, it's a lot better than Call of Duty's kill = rank system. That just sucks..

Looking at this thread, I love how back when Halo 3 first came out, there weren't so many trolls and crap to ruin people's forum fun.

Hoepfully the system will be better in Reach.

  • 02.10.2010 1:15 PM PDT

Very informative, it's interesting because I never realized how much TrueSkill uses relevant probability rules. I'm in a college level statistics class and it's cool how we've learned about the Normal curve with mean (Mu) and Standard deviation (Sigma), and how it relates to this system. If only only the Mu and Sigma values were known of everyone in every game you played...I'm sure the ranking system would be much more predictable.

Great Job!

  • 02.10.2010 3:19 PM PDT
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Blahhh. Halo 3 rankings are so frustrating.

Ok, so I'm currently level 25 ts.
I have played close to 70 games, lost 10, 5 in ts.
Was in a party of three with one guy being the same stats as me almost, and a level 19 with 87 games with 3 losses.

We easily won 20 games and lost 1. Within the first five games, the guy got to 20, but then we lost 1 game and he dropped to 19. We won more than 10 games after that, yet no one leveled up.

Why is this? I mean we don't have very many games, yet we seem to be level locked at such a low level.

  • 02.10.2010 10:52 PM PDT

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  • 02.13.2010 5:23 PM PDT

If you have any problems whatsoever that you are complaining about, please, stop complaining and get the f**k over it. :)

SWEET!! i can annoy my friend EVEN more now XD

  • 02.16.2010 9:13 PM PDT
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My problem is the complete opposite, I keep losing but keep ranking up. Really starting to piss me off. In the last 25 games I am lucky to have placed 4th in 5 games, the remaining are 5th or 6th. I am ranked 10th now, since this losing streak I started ranked 6th. I either get in rooms where I am the lowest rank, or, in a rooms with sandbaggers (ie ranked 2-4)and they just clean the room.

The worst of it is that I can't get more than 5 kills and just keep getting my ass handed to me, no fun.

  • 02.18.2010 9:04 PM PDT