- prometheus25
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- Exalted Mythic Member
Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"
I guess, Foman, that I agree with you. Nothing more than flagging abilities, and possibly a title, should be given.
There's one thing that I just can't get over, though. In the real life, people obey laws because there are valuables that can be lost: money (fines), time (jail), life.
However, not having any elitist structure is a double-bladed sword. There is no value to an account. If we adamantly go against any form of holding one member to a higher value than another, people are simply going to see their accounts as dispensible, as they can start over from scratch with the same abilities that they had and were ever going to get.
Sure, you don't have the possibility of members going around saying, "I'm better than you are" (to be honest, it still happens regardless), but what we do get is an effective and powerful reason for people to not obey the rules; no lasting consequences.
Posted by: atomic weggie
The bottom line is if Achronos doesn't want to appoint new mods because he says it's hard to trust people, then he's sure not going to give a large percentage of the B.net population access to special priviledges or roles.
A thing that I think is a problem. Granted, his oppinions aren't completely unwarranted, as there are many people who shouldn't be trusted watching the proverbial grass grow, but I feel that the trust issue exists because there's no connection or median position between the hierarch postions and the base members. The current base population is far too big to pick and choose from, but if a middle-ground was established that granted something on the lines of thread-flagging privelages, then Achronos/Moderators could promote members without fear of serious reprocussions.
For example, we've got Joe Forumgoer here. Now, Joe Forumgoer is a respectable member. He helps some people here, posts quite a bit there, all on a regular, daily basis. He knows and respects the rules. He runs an active Chapter, and moderates in one or two more. He once had a sticky about how to fix network issues in Halo 2. Now, suppose a new moderator is needed; would Joe Forumgoer be a likely candidate? Of course not, he's just a single fish in a vast ocean. So vast an ocean that he seems indifferent next to other fish.
Now, a similar scenario. Same member, same participation. This time, Bungie.net has a position entitled "Senior Member" or whatever you'd like to call it. Joe Forumgoer has done a good bit for the community, as described earlier, so a moderator promoted him to this position. Joe takes his responsibilities seriously, and is careful not to bump heads with others because of his new title and abilities. However, a new moderator is soon needed. Would the selecter look in the member pool? Not very likely; there's a perfectly good middleground where one could scrutinize a much smaller queue of members, ones that have abilities that slightly resemble those of actual moderators. A much more effective trust system would develop here, as it's a smaller base of members with greater responsibility with their roles in the community.
[Edited on 11.13.2007 2:54 PM PST]