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Awesome - more CTF

Lame - still no ranked team games above 8 players

C'mon! I want to be ranked in BTB!

  • 11.13.2007 2:29 PM PDT
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Wow, go bungie!

Thanks for making the achievements WAY too easy.

There was some challenge in getting an overkill when there were 5 people in a game, but with 6 it's just too easy.

Were people seriously having trouble getting Stepping Razor that you had to add a Swords game to LW?

What's next, Rumble Lasers?

On a positive side: Rocket Race...bangin!

  • 11.13.2007 2:40 PM PDT
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Why did they do away w/ Social Doubles?

  • 11.13.2007 2:57 PM PDT

My Best Bungie moment: finally beating all the Halo games on solo legendary.
My Worst Bungie moment: not seeing giant stuffie grunts in the Bungie store.

This is so unfair I spent hours getting all the achievements and now NOOBS will be able to get the Overkill because there is another person in Free For All

  • 11.13.2007 3:03 PM PDT
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Bring Social Doubles back. Thank you

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  • 11.13.2007 3:10 PM PDT
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I wondered why everyone was kicked off of XBL at 4am (EST) last night!!! The updates look pretty awesome. Too many people boosted or convinced people to play "acheivement" matches for acheivements anyway, so there is no point in crying about that. There are many different things that people would like to see implemented, but if they didn't play Halo 2, they probably don't realize, it took almost 1 and 1/2 to 2 years for Team Snipers, Ranked BTB, SWAT, and other things to come about. Don't whine about what's not there, enjoy what is, and look forward to changes in the future. And final point that I would like to make before the whambulance gets too loud, just because the medals exist doesn't mean that they have to be acheivable. Though it would be nice to have another chance to get a hell's janitor... all those completionists out there are getting a little too obssessive over medals that are only seen on bungie.net. Rejoice that you just pwned 10 zombies... and don't about the virtual pat on the cheek.

Luke stated there would be mucho DLC coming for the holidays, so I'm pretty excited about forging some man cannons into something. :)

  • 11.13.2007 3:14 PM PDT
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Where is juggernaut for Lone Wolves?

Other than that though, I love it. I can't wait to play tonight.

  • 11.13.2007 3:17 PM PDT

Beelkeel

It's awesome to see they are doing things like this. I can't wait to try the rocket race playlist, I love rocket race. Still can't wait for ranked BTB and for an all player created games playlist though. But for now great move with 6 in Wolves and adding swords. Also glad to hear about hammers and less VIP in multi team, i think VIP is best with two larger teams.

  • 11.13.2007 3:22 PM PDT

i would like to add that they fix wats important ..like say the mauler...(why some who has no shield and a mauler in there hand can shoot me and hit me simultaniously as i hit them and i die?) or how about the beatdown in general...better yet the fact that i won 15 games in a row on my lvl 45 ts and didnt move and inch ...my other party members were 40's and they all caught up to me? then i may repurchase the game... and u can check my stats and films for some proof .. not all but for some reason i couldnt stop playin no matter how much i complain so i guess thats a good thing? right?

  • 11.13.2007 3:28 PM PDT

no skill you say, hmmm last time i cheked the sword needs a lot of skill. to prove it ill take ya on 1 on 1 and ill show ya how how "no" skill is needed

  • 11.13.2007 3:35 PM PDT
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BOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm now convinced that the real Bungie team is in Hawaii sipping on Mai Tais. Whoever they left in charge is blowing it. Big time.

Thing's you should not have done:
Put swords in Lone Wolves
Got rid of Social Doubles
Ever even thought up Hammerzeit
Listened to the noobs on this forum

Things you should have done:
Made Big Team Battle ranked
Put in Team Snipers
Made that horrible 'D-Pad to talk BS' optional
Brought back Head to Head
Relesed more maps
Not listened to the noobs on this forum

Unless you are going back to fix your mistakes please never release another update because this one was garbage.




[Edited on 11.13.2007 3:47 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2007 3:35 PM PDT
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Does anyone else see a problem with Valhala on team slayer? That's a huge map for 8 people. Unless everyone spawns with BR and they nerf the sniper I can't see how that's a good idea.

  • 11.13.2007 3:49 PM PDT
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Why are you playing Mass Effect so early? Instead of playing Halo 3 .

  • 11.13.2007 4:03 PM PDT
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Sounds pretty good! Most of the changes will work pretty well. One problem I have had is that Valhalla turns up too often on the Rocket Race hopper. I want to play on the Sandtrap (Race) version once in a while. Otherwise, good stuff!

  • 11.13.2007 4:08 PM PDT
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Rocket Race

Hey Bungie Team. When everyone gets used to Rocket Race, or you guys going to start adding other maps besides Vahalla and Sandtrap? I have a good race for Snowbound, but I'm pretty sure y'all could do Snowbound better than me.

That's all. Hey, and Frankie/lukems. Y'all want to play some rocket race later??

  • 11.13.2007 4:10 PM PDT
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Valhalla on team slayer sounds terrible if its still AR start. Also Social Doubles was cool, sucks that its gone. Rest of the update sounds cool though.

[Edited on 11.13.2007 4:15 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2007 4:13 PM PDT

I swear to DRUNK, I'm not GOD!

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Posted by: Hannibal Skye
Oh....boy.....I'm...just so excited I can't contain myself....oh wait, no I can. So Big Team Battles still just have Three maps.....and we still have no maps that have tanks or prowlers or flame grenades, etc etc. Oh yea, great update, I'm really excited.



All you need is Rocket Race.




No, it's not all I need. I like big team battles, and I hate that there are so few maps, and so many territories and vip matches. I played for 2 hours the other night and I think I might have played 1 slayer.

And, I ran 4 different threads with polls with multiple ideas for new maps that would make the game so much better, and it will be readily ignored, I'm sure.


I dunno what to say really... Big Team Battle is a great playlist... There's lots of team-mates to help you out, lots of enemies to shoot at, and the games tend to be a lot longer in general as well. But the draw-back is it's only got one category, and all the slayer, CTF, Oddball, Assault, and all the other game-types are crammed into this one category. It's not sorted like Social Slayer, Social Skirmish, Team Slayer, Team Objective, Team Tactical are. With those, you have a set game setup, but your choice of the game-type. BTB just stuffs it all into one playlist, and only 3 maps to play that on on top of everything else.

It's kind of sad really. I mean, I think it would be nice if you could at LEAST break BTB into... say... Big Team Slayer and Big Team Objective. That would be nice. But then again, chances are good that more than half of the people who even read this forum at all will just scroll past it. Oh, well!

  • 11.13.2007 4:31 PM PDT
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Why swords in Lone Wolves?. . . Seriously, was that a joke? Because I don't find it funny at all!

  • 11.13.2007 4:32 PM PDT

Giggles, I love shooting by someone on rocket race after my "gunner" wipes them out, listening to their screams of joy and terror. I am SO glad that an inovative, and usual gametype such as this has been finally implemented.

  • 11.13.2007 4:34 PM PDT
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Yea, Valhalla with 8 people really becomes boring. But more to the point..... Why dear god why would you replace social doubles with Noobfest 2007 (Rocket Race), half the people playing have no idea whats going on and spend the game unloading their rocket launcher into you well you desperately search for a mongoose, very few people comprehend that the games purpose is not to kill but simply to race ( which is sad considering the obvious name). And I understand that you should have the rockets to make it harder for opposing players to drive, however making the mongooses destructible is a sad error in thought because the game turns into a foot race (or an assassination fight), and that makes the game pitifully boring when you must walk from way point to way point. So I don't know about everyone else but the Halloween disappointment and the continuation of the destruction of a wonderful game by adding games that are completely unnecessary is leading me to want to purchase another game that is much more fun (ex. Assassin's Creed). I Hope Bungie can get it together because I love Halo, but this is just sad.

Edit: Just noticed- Gravity Hammer fights......come on.... I mean really what is Halo turning into?
Instead of putting gravity hammer fights and rocket race in why not put in team snipers or team swat?

P.S.- To the guy below this- The entire reason they put the feature "Discuss the topic" at the bottom of all the news is so that they can receive feedback, whether it be positive or negative, so that they have something to build off. If no one came on and started "whining" then they would never think anything is wrong and the game would retain all of its issues.

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  • 11.13.2007 4:39 PM PDT

"Go then. There are other worlds than these."

Wow.

I can't believe how much whining there is on these forums. It's like my two year old daughter learned to type.

If you don't like the games in matchmaking play customs. If you don't have enough friends to play a custom game then get on one of the million Halo fansites out there and use it to build your friends list.

I'm sure every last one of you has the best ideas EVAR about how matchmaking should be run. Congratulations. You know how it really works when players determine all the gametypes? You end up with the same game on the same map over and over. Played Rainbow Six Vegas lately? If you like Team Sharpshooters on LVU Campus then you are in luck. Otherwise you might as well forget it.

I'm excited to try out the new stuff. Sounds to me like a lot of what is new is there because of requests from the community. If this game had been out for six months and there had been no updates then I might think some of this griping is justified, but the bulk of you seem to be forgetting that the game has only been out for a month and a half. Take your Ritalin and have a little patience.

  • 11.13.2007 4:54 PM PDT

Want my honest opinion? Not that you'll read this.. but what the hell might as well get flamed for saying what a lot of players are thinking..

You guys took the easy route out by just straight up removing Social Doubles from the Social Playlists... there were many fixes available to you if you had actually bothered to think outside of your apparently tiny box... Here is what I would of done:
Either...
• Made max party size for Social Doubles set to 2 so that legitimate doubles teams can warm up before playing ranked..
• Removed EXP gain from Social Doubles, meaning that legitimate doubles teams can still warm up... however this solution wouldn't be particularly successful as some players wouldn't see Social Doubles as a good use of time if there is no chance of an EXP gain even if they are only using it to warm up...
anddddd thirdly (now I quite liked this idea when I thought about it... in theory its perfect how easy it would be to implement practically is another issue)
• Make it so that a game of Social Doubles (or anything.. if its appropriate) can only grant EXP to the winning team (or both teams if there is a draw) if more than 10% of a game is completed... (or an even higher percentage if you see appropriate..) All this means is that for a normal game of 2vs2 Team Slayer... one of the teams would have to get 2.5 kills (if 10% is needed) for a proper game of Social Doubles (not one used purely for EXP boosting) this would be achieved and not effect anybody negatively... however an EXP boosting team that just leaves their xbox online over night with 4 people in a party continuously entering social doubles on a loop, with no actual input to the game whilst this is happening would no longer be able to gain EXP as the game would end with the score 0 - 0 meaning that 10% of the game has not been completed and therefore EXP gain is nullified.

There thats your solution, stop cutting corners in an attempt to please the masses with a quick fix that actually irritates the community who didn't abuse the system.


Oh and for the love of god give us Hardcore.. we need a decent BR start playlist... you surely know that?!?

  • 11.13.2007 5:05 PM PDT
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Horrible update! 6 player lone wolves is too congested. There isn't any stedegy any more just run around and kill people. Die as much as you want beacuse there is no consequences. Swords are rediculous in lone wolves! Games should be weighed by how your kill ratio is not thqat you killed 25 nad won BUT died 30 times.

  • 11.13.2007 5:05 PM PDT

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Does anyone else see a problem with Valhala on team slayer? That's a huge map for 8 people. Unless everyone spawns with BR and they nerf the sniper I can't see how that's a good idea.


And Valhalla is awful, so...

  • 11.13.2007 5:15 PM PDT

Now, go play.

"Information could not be retrieved from the Halo 3 server."

  • 11.13.2007 5:15 PM PDT