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Good updates but one thing doesn't make sense. Guardian was already in Team Slayer. We used to get it a lot. Hmmmmmmm typo maybe?

  • 11.13.2007 5:17 PM PDT
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I hope whoever came up with Rocket Race got Recon. Played it for the first time today, that -blam!- is awesome. Nicely done nameless variant creator.

  • 11.13.2007 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Hemroid
Good updates but one thing doesn't make sense. Guardian was already in Team Slayer. We used to get it a lot. Hmmmmmmm typo maybe?


Yeah i was wondering about that the first time i saw it. Just doesnt make sense

  • 11.13.2007 5:20 PM PDT
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Personally, I hate this whole thing. Rocket Race is sweet and all, but it should be a game type in Multi-team or something. Social Doubles was my favorite part of Halo 3. Bungie, I'm begging you, and so is everyone that I know...

Bring back Social Doubles! It doesn't make sense not to have it. Why can't we have both Rocket Race and Doubles? Team Doubles just isn't the same...

  • 11.13.2007 5:52 PM PDT
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Congrats Bungie!!!!!!
You have done what my wife has failed to do for almost two months, I'm going to stop playing HALO 3!!! This update sucks so bad!!!! Nice way to break what wasn't broken!!!!

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  • 11.13.2007 6:05 PM PDT
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taking out social doubles was the stupidest thing ever... what was bungie thinking??? that's mostly what my brother and myself played to have fun and not worry about rank...bungie this was a garbage move on your part..

  • 11.13.2007 6:11 PM PDT
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why did ya'll take off social doubles....that was a good matchmaking gametype

  • 11.13.2007 6:17 PM PDT
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It really bites no double team socails!!Rocket Race will get OLD!! quick . that was the cool thing about halo 3 the social doubles,you and a buddy can play 2v2 on the same account

  • 11.13.2007 6:41 PM PDT
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Wow, i'll try race rockets

  • 11.13.2007 6:51 PM PDT

Posted by: HardKnox07
I hope whoever came up with Rocket Race got Recon. Played it for the first time today, that -blam!- is awesome. Nicely done nameless variant creator.

Yeah it hasn't got a name on it because it was made by the guys at Bungie before H3 was released, kind of like as a subsitute for those who loved race in H1, ahhh those were the days!

And nice work on the changes Bungie. I'm not really a fan of Hammerzeit but you can't please everyone. To all those kids complaining, get over it, he game doesn't have to suit every single one of your picky little needs. If you honestly can come back from a game of Rocket Race and say you haven't had a blast, then maybe Halo isn' the game for you, try Barbie Horse Adventures.

  • 11.13.2007 6:53 PM PDT

Don't ask about the name-- it's a long story

Personally, I love Rocket Race, don't care about Social Doubles (never played it), adding Hammerzeit there was good, I love that game type, and Swords on Lone Wolves? It's actually kinda good, considering you ignore the existance of Steppin Razor and probably Overkill. Been waiting for that for a while. It's good to play Swords on XBL outside of custom games. Also, bumping up the number for Lone Wolves from 5 to 6? Don't care, just means more action and less camping. But I agree with others who talked about more maps for BTB, adding tanks, Fuel Rods, Plasma Turrets, Hornets, and Gauss 'Hogs. Barely use any in customs, like'd to see in matchmaking (even if only on social BTB). Another thing, yes, seperate playlists for BTB (BTB Slayer, BTB Objective), I don't like playing objective much.

  • 11.13.2007 6:57 PM PDT
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I miss Social Doubles... I was disappointed when I was looking for it when my friend was over. This game is just one disappointment after another. It's hard to get into a good infection game because it involves yelling at people in your friends list to try to get a game set up. Now they took the best thing to do when you have a friend over away? This probably isn't leaving my shelf until Bungie does something about the matchmaking. They should try to make EVERYONE happy by having MORE gametypes and lists to choose from. Rather than catering to a majority.

  • 11.13.2007 7:03 PM PDT
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Bring back social double! There's to much players in multi teams!

  • 11.13.2007 7:11 PM PDT

"One bullet, One Shot"

Rocket Race seems to be cool. it would play well on my Forge Map "Halo Race" would be fun. yup

  • 11.13.2007 7:13 PM PDT
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HAHA!

That's exactly what happened to me, except I'm too young to marry. My mom was happy as a pig in crap when I put the disc back in the box for the first time. I'm just glad to hear that I'm not the only one looking for a new game after this horrible change. I hear Call of Duty 4 is amazing. Maybe it's time to move on to something more realistic and fun, rather than something futuristic that slips further and further away from perfection each time it's creators have a whim.

Bad move Bungie... I'll give you a week to put Social Doubles back. After that, I doubt I'll be playing HALO anymore.

  • 11.13.2007 7:54 PM PDT
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WHY DID U REMOVE SOCIAL DOUBLES GUYS!!!! SOCIAL DOUBLES IS SOOOO FUN AND MUCH EASIER TO GET EXP AND I CAN PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS WITH A GUEST ON THAT!!!! ROCKET RACE [ no offence] IS REALLLY BORING SOCIAL DOUBLES WAS SOOO MUCH BETTER!! PLZ PUT IT BACK PUT ROCKET RACE AND SOCIAL DOUBLES PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ sry to be mean but i loved social doubles

  • 11.13.2007 7:56 PM PDT

Man, is it just me or is Bungie retarded? Why not put rocket race in Multi-team? why put any more Hammerzeit games in considering its the most vetoed gametype I have ever seen? Why make a lonewolves gametype that is simply America=wins automatically? Why not make Social doubles max party 2 instead of 4 like a retard?

I seriously do not understand you people. you make mistake after mistake and ignore the community that is supposedly helping you to "World Domination" at this rate you will dominate nothing other then your office building. thats all you will have left if this -blam!- keeps going.

Also, Removing Social Doubles does not stop boosting at all. all you need is 3 guest's in Rumble pit, get 1 kill with the real account and bam, you get EXP. hell, You dont even need to do that. stop half arseing this crap and do it properly. Have a look at the Optimatch forum and actually find out what your community WANTS not what you think they want.

  • 11.13.2007 8:16 PM PDT
Subject: Lone Wolf Troubles

My main concern with this update is that the max of 5 people in love wolves was changed to 6. I can't see the reasoning behind doing that. 5 people was perfect, 6 is 1 too many. It's hectic! Might as well be rumble pit from Halo 2. Now I can't walk 10 steps without getting killed. Please change it back to 5, Bungie. I speak for many people when I say this (mainly the ones who don't have bungie.net accounts).

Also, why was Social Doubles replaced by rocket race? Sure I didn't play it, but what am I supposed to do now when my friend comes over to play Halo with me? Kinda killed my hopes of 2 on 2. :( If you did it because people were being exp whores, I'm sure you could have fixed the problem without removing the playlist altogether. Besides, the ones that wanted a "high rank" but really suck? It's their funeral when they go into matchmaking against people who truly are those ranks.

Enough complaining from me though. Thank you for FINALLY putting a sword gametype in lone wolves. ^^ I played my first match tonight since the update, and it was swords. Yeah I got owned and frustrated, but the few kills I got made me almost die laughing. xD And thank you for reducing oddball games. They're fun once in awhile, but before the update it was horrible.

Lastly, on Guardian being added to the team slayer playlist, did you mean Sandtrap? Because that wasn't there before, and Guardian was. o.O Thanks Bungie for a semi-lame update. Melee update next, anyone?

[Edited on 11.15.2007 8:18 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2007 8:28 PM PDT
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BOO! HISS!

Swords is garbage. Rocket Race is not what we have been asking for. I want Ninja back!

  • 11.13.2007 8:54 PM PDT
Subject: Lone Wolf Troubles

I swear to DRUNK, I'm not GOD!

I personally think the 6 players on Lone Wolves was a good move. It didn't make a lot of sense that Rumble Pit had 6 players while LW had 5.

But also, why are people whining so much about the loss of Social Doubles? I mean, I would play the game every once in a while, thinking I could play a game with less lag if there were fewer players (I've got wireless DSL, and my connection isn't the greatest) but I honestly think that when there's just two people on two people, it's too much of an ego thing, and it gets to be more about proving yourself than having fun.... and that's to say nothing of the times when your buddy doesn't have a mic and won't communicate with you, or just bails out of the game completely, leaving you on your lonesome. Sure, sometimes it's fun to just do a 2v2 game because most other games are played with teams of 4 or more people.... but I think that if there was any other playlist to bump off to make room for a new one, it would have been Social Doubles.

And I might throw in just as a little idea... these games are great and all... but it's a little disconcerting that none of the games in matchmaking have Tanks. Forget about the fancy prowlers and gassus warthogs and hornets, (as cool of vehicles though those may be) I'm just curious, would it be too much to ask if there were... say... a scorpion for each base on Sandtrap... for Big Team Battle games at least? I'm just saying it's a bit disconcerting how few of the levels have vehicles on them... and I'm talking about vehicles that people actually use...

--- Sure, there's a ghost on Snowbound.... the level where everybody dukes it out in the tunnels underground.

--- Sure, there's a pair of Mongeese, a ghost and a warthog on Last Resort.... which nobody really touches except for the beginning of the game, but after that pretty much all of the fighting goes on around the windmill and in the base (and you can check the heatmaps if you don't believe me!)

--- Sure, there's a ghost on Isolation and some Mongeese too.... but with the tight quarters on that level, you're liable to get shot at from all directions unless you're making a speedy escape.... and even then you need to be lucky.

No, Bungie, there's a definite lack of vehicular combat in Halo 3 Multiplayer, and that could easily be changes with a few simple adjustments in Forge, and distribution of the new maps to matchmaking like you did with with Rocket Race and the Infection hoppers you had up. (which were both really fun)

Hmm....... I bet no one heard what I just said.... let alone anyone important at Bungie. Oh, well! *sad face*

  • 11.13.2007 9:21 PM PDT
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Thanks for ruining love wolves. I guess I'll find another game to play

  • 11.13.2007 9:29 PM PDT
Subject: Matchmaking Playlist Changes are Live

Posted by: Emo Joe89
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Posted by: Hannibal Skye
Oh....boy.....I'm...just so excited I can't contain myself....oh wait, no I can. So Big Team Battles still just have Three maps.....and we still have no maps that have tanks or prowlers or flame grenades, etc etc. Oh yea, great update, I'm really excited.



All you need is Rocket Race.




No, it's not all I need. I like big team battles, and I hate that there are so few maps, and so many territories and vip matches. I played for 2 hours the other night and I think I might have played 1 slayer.

And, I ran 4 different threads with polls with multiple ideas for new maps that would make the game so much better, and it will be readily ignored, I'm sure.


I dunno what to say really... Big Team Battle is a great playlist... There's lots of team-mates to help you out, lots of enemies to shoot at, and the games tend to be a lot longer in general as well. But the draw-back is it's only got one category, and all the slayer, CTF, Oddball, Assault, and all the other game-types are crammed into this one category. It's not sorted like Social Slayer, Social Skirmish, Team Slayer, Team Objective, Team Tactical are. With those, you have a set game setup, but your choice of the game-type. BTB just stuffs it all into one playlist, and only 3 maps to play that on on top of everything else.

It's kind of sad really. I mean, I think it would be nice if you could at LEAST break BTB into... say... Big Team Slayer and Big Team Objective. That would be nice. But then again, chances are good that more than half of the people who even read this forum at all will just scroll past it. Oh, well!




Ok, first of all, I just played some rocket race and I think it's retarded. It for sure doesn't need it's own playlist. You want a new playlist, well here you go, infection. You have medals for it, it should be there to play. PLUS Big Team Battle still needs to have a ranked version.

To address your concerns about Big Team Battle. It's only assault, flag, vip, territories and slayer. That isn't too many to put into one category.....so long as you have MORE THAN 3 MAPS FOR THE WHOLE PLAYLIST!!!! This update blows. It did absolutely nothing for me.

  • 11.13.2007 9:36 PM PDT
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god I'm so mad they took out social dubs when it was just me and a friend who doesnt have halo it would usually end up being a good matchup. SO mad. also good way to get new friends without raging competition like in ranked.

rocket race? not really any skill, it shouldnt be something that you get experience because your not really getting any better at anything. Its fun though.

everything else is fine, not a huge fan of hammers but its okay.

I dont understand why everyone thinks infection should be a playlist, theres two ways you can play it. Actually have fun and fight and become a zombie eventually, or find the perfect spot that no zombie can get to thats not fun. it shouldnt be a playlist option your not gaining any skill by playing it.

bungie needs to forget everything and make some solid maps. seriously every halo 2 map was dope especially lockout, where it really took skill with a battle rifle and you could really excell when you know the map. Instead of guardian, pretty much the only small map, where you can excell by crouching with a mauler or shotgun and sitting there.

my serious opinion, I wish bungie just made a 360 version of halo 2. which would have better graphics, much more solid, takes way more skill, and a whole lot more fluid. now nobody plays halo 2 anymore it sucks.

hey im up for friendly arguments

  • 11.13.2007 9:49 PM PDT

Okay, big problems.

Instead of infection, which everyone was dying to keep, we get a Rocket Race matchmaking with only 2-3 maps. About 2 gametypes on each which are essentially the same. I think most can agree that rocket racing is a fun game type, but not fun or varied enough to have it's own match making list. It also features 4 teams. Why can't this just be added to multi-team?

A matchmaking that is really needed would be one called "Social Custom" or something. Where each game would be something user made, or completely off the walls. Like that jailbreak CTF, Rocket Race, and a bunch of other fun and zany maps or game types made by users. Maybe some low gravity, high health, hammer battles on guardian? Can you manage to *not get thrown off when being hit? Maybe gametype called Tug of war. 2 rounds, first to 5 kills wins, but here's the kicker. You die, your team loses a score. so you need to score 5 higher than the other team to win. Possibly even a map called Vehicles, which is of course, loaded with every vehicle. (I know there must be hundreds of other good idea's out there). People entering this matchmaking should expect that some game modes might not be perfectly balanced, or hard to understand at first, but all will be solid fun. A good matchmaking for people that want to just screw around and have some non-stop random entertainment with random people.

Also, if bungie really wanted to have a Rocket Race matchmaking list, why settle for just a few similar maps/gametypes? Where's the variety? Why can't some game types be Fuel Rod Race or Brute Shot Race? Why not skip the specifics and name the matchmaking 'Race'? This way it can be used on all maps, with a number of different weapon types. There can be a race on Guardian, where all players are invincible and have Gravity Hammers. Or maybe even just a small moving hill with low gravity. I'd like to see someone stand in the hill while people are batting him across the map with their hammers.

Long story short, I was excited about rocket race, until I realized it was bungie just milking a few maps with even fewer modes into a full out matchmaking. It's not varied, and it gets boring quite quickly. 2-3 Maps of the exact same thing is not enough to keep anyone entertained for too long. Anyone could make plenty of fun game types and maps for the Race variant. Please don't settle for less, bungie. =/

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  • 11.13.2007 9:49 PM PDT
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Well, ive never played social doubles and didnt know what rocket race would be like... It's pretty disappointing. Too much luck in it and just silly randomness. the people who get the next checkpoints next to them always get them. maybe make new types of map variations with closed tracks? and non-randomised escort points? (also, racing without weapons)

[Edited on 11.13.2007 10:17 PM PST]

  • 11.13.2007 10:16 PM PDT