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Subject: Re: A complaint about Halo 1..........for once.
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  • 12.21.2004 5:49 PM PDT
Subject: A complaint about Halo 1..........for once.
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dude i -blam!- hate halo 2 now, bungie got whored out by microsoft and bill gate's small -blam!-

  • 12.21.2004 10:28 PM PDT
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i think the pistol in halo 1 was ok but i only used it with grunts. it took em out in 1 shot so ya i guess it was to powerful

  • 12.21.2004 10:42 PM PDT
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I recently went into a custom game, people trying to relive Halo 1 with Halo 2. It was a clan that had made a gametype where everyone spawned with BR and it could kill with 1 burst to the head. They just whored the tanks and spawn killed behind the bases (coag). I really don't miss the pistol.

  • 12.22.2004 5:15 AM PDT
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  • 12.22.2004 10:57 AM PDT
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What we now have is better. Having one weapon that is more effective than the default weapons is good. It forces you (if you want the gun) to go and have an encounter with any member of the opposite team that wants the weapon too. Theres some action before anything really big has gone off. Then its a case of regrouping with teammates who have also been and fought for their weapon, see what you go and head in for the attack. The tactics required now are much more complex than anything required in halo 1 and for this reason it is a better game. That's not taking into account the other aspects of halo 2 like the graphics and physics which are clearly miles ahead of halo 1. It's a better game in every single way and it truly confuses me when people try and get all nostalgic when halo is so far behind halo in terms of gameplay value and reward for skill.

  • 12.22.2004 3:36 PM PDT
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he actually does have a point... i was playing a friend in H1 and he got the pistol..... (this guy has played many other fps games, so hes good with the pistol type weapons..) and he started owning me. i beat him, but...

  • 12.22.2004 9:45 PM PDT
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hahaha no more shotty wh0r3s he says,yeah but now theres sword wh0r3s and people still run for the most powerfull weapons to win the game such as sword,rocket launcher,sniper or beam rifel,heh and the dual wielding dosnt change any thing its just first shot first kill as always.
Posted by: BoxMonster13
Yes I'm a fan of both. I like both for different reason, but I think I am the first person to find fault with Halo 1. When we used to play System Link on H1, it would always turn into a pistol sniping, shotty wielding fest. People would pusposefully run to these weapons just to win. Now in Halo 2, there are many different ways to fight, and the shotty was powered down to keep clumping shotty wh0r3s from ruling a board. Also, no more pistol, which everyone knows was overpowered, even if they don't want to admit it. The new diversity of weapons and dual wielding feature enable people to fight many different ways, instead of the cliche shotty and pistol combo. I think that Bungie did good by Halo 2, by reducing cheapness by the balancing out the weapons and adding more variety to the first games meager selection. What do you guys think? And if you are just going to complain about Halo2, please don't post, I want this to be a constructive criticism/suggestion/support topic, not a bon fire like many other topics have turned into.

  • 12.22.2004 10:06 PM PDT
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Why don't you shut up about the rules. You're not a mod. You never will be.
Anyways, now people just head toward the Sword and Rocket Launcher, especially on Zanzibar and Ivory Tower. They're too close together. On Zanzy, just head up, get the Launcher, then head into the blades and get the Sword. Same thing on Ivory. Get the sword, head out into the middle, grab the Launcher.


Not necassarily. When i usually go to the rocket, I will sometimes stay to rocket an attacking Warthog that will most likely always come in, but 90% of the time I get sniped. You would have to be a quick player or just really stupid to actully go for the sword aswell.

  • 12.23.2004 7:03 AM PDT
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Its called unconditional love for the two greatest games ever

  • 12.23.2004 9:53 AM PDT
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uhhh halo 2 sucks prepared tro halo, and itscalled halo not halo 1

at least using the pistol for a TSK took some skill, and sniping needed some skill too, halo 2 takes no skill, rockets lock on, sniping is 10 times as easy, -blam!- double weilds, if you think the pistol on halo 1 is cheap what about double pistol, how bout plasma pistol and battle rifle, sword? they are all -blam!- nad requir no skill, also, the wraith, how many shjots with the rocket does it take to blow that thing up, if people could play halo on xbl ratehr playing on xbc so many more people would play halo over halo 2,

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  • 12.23.2004 10:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: centinela
In terms of gameplay value and reward for skill.


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oh and rofl

  • 12.23.2004 10:18 AM PDT
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rofl skill hahah what skill does it take to kill someone by duel weilding,...none,what skill does it take to kill some one in one hit with a sniper rifel or beam rifel,....none,what skill does it take to lock on to a warthog and get an instant triple kill absoulotly none.and swords are the same just hide in a corner and wait for someone to come by then kill him in one hit if you call that skill then your crazy.

Posted by: centinela
In terms of gameplay value and reward for skill.


  • 12.23.2004 2:53 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

Terminal, Multi-Team Slayer BR
50-30-28-17
Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Deadi, first of all, Halo is COMPAIRED to Halo 2. And second, the pistol was powered down so dual pistols is actually a lot less powerful then you think. With the sword, you have to get really close to use it effectively, so I would say that takes just a tad of skill, and I will admit the PPBR trick is cheap, but it is also extremely clever and inventive, and deserves some reverence. About the Wraith, that's way they don't have it in online games, because it is horribly cheap, but it hardly ever is a starting vehicle unless you are playing big maps, so stop whining. Go back from whence you came, you whiner. And I doubt that there would be a greater Halo 1 following, for the mere fact that Halo 2 offers more game types.

ps. I say Halo 1 to make the distinction, not because it is actually called that. It is misleading just to put Halo because some people might not know what I'm referring to.

  • 12.23.2004 3:53 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

Terminal, Multi-Team Slayer BR
50-30-28-17
Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Gaming, you discount that fact that sniping takes 2 shots to kill, and aiming is a skill. Dual wielding also requires strategy (Read my strategy guide posted in New Mombosa) and aiming, both skills, and isn't just about who shoots first. I can't count the times I've killed my dualwielding opponent who started shooting first, because I dodge and weave, while firing accurately. I admit zord camping is cheap, and doesn't require much skill, but if you had skill you could probably kill him, or at least realize he was there and flush him out first so your team can help. And with regards to the launcher, picking up the launcher requires no skill in either game, it shot faster in Halo 1 so you didn't have to lead targets, and the rounds were more explosive. The solution: don't pick up the launcher it never required skill, so don't complain about the lock on, or warthog triple kills. Remember skill isn't just about pulling the aiming and pulling the trigger at the right time, it is about strategy and picking the right weapons for the situation. Everything in Halo1 and Halo2 requires some type of skill, and some people have more than others (that's why you probably get beaten alot).

  • 12.23.2004 4:00 PM PDT
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it dosnt take to shots to kill some one with sniping head shots give instant kill.plus i use the crouch and weave strategy which helps sometimes but cant always be realied on i my self have found that its harder to do then say when you try to fush out a sworder cause they mostly know the stage well enough not to be caught off gaurd,and in halo:ce the rocket launcher guy couldnt take out banshees or ghosts or even warthogs out as easy unless he was very close to the vehicle or it was moving very slow,now he can just lock on and theres no chance of not getting hit.and fyi i dont get beaten alot.but if they had put XBL on HCE i wouldnt play H2 as much.

  • 12.23.2004 8:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Manifesto
dude i -blam!- hate halo 2 now, bungie got whored out by microsoft and bill gate's small -blam!-


Bill gates doesn't own microsoft anymore, he stepped down after the anti-trust lawsuits because 50 billion is apparently the magic number.

Posted by: gamingfreak200
rofl skill hahah what skill does it take to kill someone by duel weilding,...none,what skill does it take to kill some one in one hit with a sniper rifel or beam rifel,....none,what skill does it take to lock on to a warthog and get an instant triple kill absoulotly none.and swords are the same just hide in a corner and wait for someone to come by then kill him in one hit if you call that skill then your crazy.


No, it doesn't take much skill to do those things. Anyone who has played any fps and then halo for 5 mins could figure them out. The skill is beating the people who do those things.

[Edited on 12/23/2004 8:39:29 PM]

  • 12.23.2004 8:35 PM PDT
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the pistol in halo 2 is not much different i mean if you have a good sense of judment and you scoped with the new pistols and you had a pretty good idea were the center of the screen was you can still snipe the guys out i do it all the time

  • 12.23.2004 9:04 PM PDT
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oh sorry if i changed the subject i didnt see there was an other page on this forum sorry

  • 12.23.2004 9:08 PM PDT
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I would have to agree with Blu Mammoth. Skill DID rule all in Halo, and that also goes for the second Halo. Everything, every battle revovled around skill, if you had it, you won, if you didnt, you lost, that's how it goes, and that's how it will always go. BUT, I do not like people who grab a sniper and sit up at spots that are unreachable (unless you have a Banshee), and snipe the whole game. That sucks, I do not see THAT as skill, I see it as wimping out. Sniping is ok, I really dont mind it, but at least do something different every once is a while, get some decent kills you know?...

  • 12.23.2004 10:41 PM PDT
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And Incizor has a GREAT point. The skill is to wipe out the people that do the cheezy stuff. So I kinda have to take back some stuff from earlier, because I didnt really think about that point.

  • 12.23.2004 10:45 PM PDT
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well sometimes thats hard or impossible to do as they are sometimes in unreachable places,or when they dual weild its still mostly of who starts shooting cause if you get somone from the back with a magnum+smg or a plasma pistol+smg you can take them out before they can respond its still a matter of who sees who first and who has the better weapon,or in some cases vehicle in ctf wraith its almost impossible to destroy a wraith so as for destructible vehicles theres still some juggernaughts they just replaced the scorpion which i agree was overpowered with a slightly less invunrable wraith .
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Posted by: Manifesto
dude i -blam!- hate halo 2 now, bungie got whored out by microsoft and bill gate's small -blam!-


Bill gates doesn't own microsoft anymore, he stepped down after the anti-trust lawsuits because 50 billion is apparently the magic number.

Posted by: gamingfreak200
rofl skill hahah what skill does it take to kill someone by duel weilding,...none,what skill does it take to kill some one in one hit with a sniper rifel or beam rifel,....none,what skill does it take to lock on to a warthog and get an instant triple kill absoulotly none.and swords are the same just hide in a corner and wait for someone to come by then kill him in one hit if you call that skill then your crazy.


No, it doesn't take much skill to do those things. Anyone who has played any fps and then halo for 5 mins could figure them out. The skill is beating the people who do those things.

  • 12.24.2004 12:40 AM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

Terminal, Multi-Team Slayer BR
50-30-28-17
Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Gamin, you make a point about shooting someone in the back, and whoever sees first kills first, but that goes for Halo 1 aswell. If you and your target each have a pistol and you see him first, you will probably win the battle, if you start shooting before he sees you. It is a governing concept of any FPS! The more skilled players know where to look, know how to look, and they can find enemies faster, and take them down more easily. Halo 1 and 2 both have this aspect, so you can't dismiss the look first-shoot first-kill first method, it makes FPS's what they are.

  • 12.27.2004 8:44 AM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

Terminal, Multi-Team Slayer BR
50-30-28-17
Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

wtf does ROFL meaning? I'm new to the posting world, and don't know that much gamer speak. Please explain.

  • 12.27.2004 8:46 AM PDT