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Subject: A complaint about Halo 1..........for once.
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Posted by: eliteskull94
Thnak you for posting oour comlain about Halo 1 in the Hlo 2 forum. Please repost in The Library, where you will find much sympathy about the overpowered pistol.


I think u will find that this IS the Library

  • 12.27.2004 11:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: BoxMonster13
wtf does ROFL meaning? I'm new to the posting world, and don't know that much gamer speak. Please explain.


Roll On Floor Laughing.

  • 12.27.2004 11:37 AM PDT
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Halo is a game from 2001. Stop your -blam!-ing.

  • 12.27.2004 4:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deadishot
uhhh halo 2 sucks prepared tro halo, and itscalled halo not halo 1

at least using the pistol for a TSK took some skill, and sniping needed some skill too, halo 2 takes no skill, rockets lock on, sniping is 10 times as easy, -blam!- double weilds, if you think the pistol on halo 1 is cheap what about double pistol, how bout plasma pistol and battle rifle, sword? they are all -blam!- nad requir no skill, also, the wraith, how many shjots with the rocket does it take to blow that thing up, if people could play halo on xbl ratehr playing on xbc so many more people would play halo over halo 2,

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Agree. We need more people like you and me... with opinions that actually matter.

  • 12.27.2004 7:30 PM PDT
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Well.....they were trying something different in a first person shooter. I mean they never really made a FPS like Halo before. Remeber its hard to try something new. YOu should of give them more slack. Since they they studied there mistakes in 1, now they can make re do the errors the first had.

  • 12.29.2004 12:22 PM PDT
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yea yea yea, iloved the pistol ing H1. it is like the combo with SMG AND MAGnum but with no scope even though i miss it, i do thank Bungie for not having it because along wit me and my friends we would be running around with our pistols killing everyone we see...
ooo well thnxs bungie.

  • 12.29.2004 5:08 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

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Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Posted by: MJOLNIR MARK V
Halo is a game from 2001. Stop your -blam!-ing.


If your reading comprehension was actually above third grade level, you would have realized that I was mostly writing about Halo 2 in my original post. I posted on New Mombosa and the moderators moved it here because it addresses Halo 1 as well as 2 (I think it still should go in NM, but anyway). I was commenting on how cheap Halo 1 battles could be and how Bungie more or less balanced the weapons out so there no longer are 1 or 2 go-to weapons (shotty and pistol). Just making an educated observasion, and doing something that most people are afraid to do: pick a bone with the original Halo.

  • 12.30.2004 8:08 AM PDT
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The Pistol was a good weapon, and Halo 1 is a good game. But, in mulitplayer, unless you were some kind of prodigy with the Plasma Weapons, was there any reason to drop a pistol ? In Halo 1 it was Pistol/Sniper, Pistol/Rocket, Pistol/Shotgun, etc. To survive in Halo 1, you needed to be good with a pistol.

In Halo 2, there is no manditory best weapon. If you want, you can be a killer SMG user, or a laid back sniper, and stealhty swordmaster, a Battle Rifle-Midrange Combat expert, etc. yes, the sword dominates if you camp. But if you have a shotgun, and wait at the entrance of the Blood Gulch base (Halo 1), and the guy runs in, don't you have just as easy of a free kill ? There was camping in Halo 1, just with a different weapon.

As for the claim that whoever shoots first wins, wasn't that the same in Halo 1 ? Are you telling me that if a guy shoots you in the head across the map with the pistol, you're going to be able to turn around, figure out exactly where he is, and kill him ? What if you get frozen with a plasma rifle ? What if a guy chases after you with a shotgun, will you be able to magically turn around and kill him before he shoots you a second time ?

The fact is, for almost every complaint made about Halo 2, it was there in Halo 1. Both are mindblowing games, respect them each.

[Edited on 12/30/2004 4:22:41 PM]

  • 12.30.2004 4:21 PM PDT
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lone sentinal your right and im going to take it from your last paragraph, halo 2 is a great game and you could do things that you couldnt do in halo. for instance the ability to take your allys weapons and to duel wield and to even hop onto enemy craft boot them out and take it for yourself. those are things you couldnt do on halo. and yes there is flaws on halo and i dont give a crap about the " there is no flaws on halo" or "i think im the first person to find one" there is plenty. how about when you shot down the elite piloting the banshee on the first part in the lvl halo. and if your a great shot(like me) and you had the banshee you would have saw that the game did not let you drive the banshee. i think that restriction is a load of crap. and how is it that you cant run things down with a ghost and when you try your enemies do a nice fine little roll or jump or dive, and you can duck and run but you the master chief who is a sparten cant even roll and you end up getting layed out. and please this crap i keep seeing about the pistol. dude the pistol in my term sucks. during gameplay and during multiplayer. ooo yes its got that sissy 2x scope and whoo hoo you got yourself a little sniper/gun weapon on hold. i dont think so, in multiplayer the pistol didnt go very far against me. now i must give the pistol its glory and pro's. yes plp it can come to handy and is a weapon that i myself used many times but when plp say its a weapon you positivly need i think there wrong.

  • 12.31.2004 1:46 PM PDT
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Your right. Perfectly said.

But I don't think I have any thing else to say.

  • 12.31.2004 3:18 PM PDT
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If you guys thought the pistol was cheap, than what about the magnum PP combo? That takes only two shots to kill compared to the pistol's three. And now a total noob can pick up a sniper rifle and land head shots. That is way to easy to do. You cannot say that sniping takes skill. Without the pistol, halo would have never been what it is now.

  • 01.05.2005 3:52 PM PDT
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Finaly someone else who thinks the first pistol was overpowered to. I can beat the main campaign on heroic with only the pistol (on levels where it is avaliable). That just ruined the fun for me because it became a 1 gun game. Also, for all you people who will bring up the flood against me, 2 or 3 shots to the chest of a combat form will drop it... Come on, when was the last time you saw somebody kill a zombie by shoting it in the chest!?

By the Way, both games have tied for 2nd best game i have ever played, I just can't chose! Don't Make me!

  • 01.06.2005 9:03 AM PDT
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I totallly agree. Sometimes I'd find myself using the pistol instead of the assault rifle, and that's definetly NOT how it should be. A pistol, or any sidearm for that matter, should be switched to only if your out of ammo, reloading, etc. They did it just right in the 2nd Halo.

  • 01.06.2005 1:54 PM PDT
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I simply love both versions. Their's always going to be something someone dislikes from a game. That's what makes this forum great.

  • 01.06.2005 4:21 PM PDT
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You can't possibly complain about the gun that made the game equal. You can go over to halo 2 and be the best goddarn player in the world, and u can get p00ned by some noob dual wielding, just because u die in under a second. And since you perpetually spawn with the WORST weapon ever created (smg) you have absolutely no chance of survival, especially if you run out of nades. And you know what, halo 1 isn't all about the pistol. You can be the best pistoler in the world and lose to someone who uses grenades more effectivly than you. And if you are complaining about people with shotguns in h1, i dont think youve ever used the plasma rifle. Think about it.

  • 01.08.2005 2:03 PM PDT
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I agree with you of the pistol. It's starting to piss me off when I get shot from across the map with no trace of knowing where the enemy is. However, I disagree with the shotgun statement. It wasn't a really powerful weapons; it actually took a minimum of skill to wield it or to avoid it ( I know I sound exactly like a person defending the pistol, but hey). But I think Bungie shouldn't have "randomized" the shotgun. It would have been much more sensible to tone it down, instead of making it unpredictable.
But hey, I'll live with it.
Personally, I think the shotgun is still goddamn effective.
And I also like the Plasma Rifle + SMG combo.

  • 01.08.2005 2:19 PM PDT
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I agree. The M6D pistol is the choice for weapon whores everywhere. I almost never play without a pistol and a sniper/needler because you can just KILL with that combo.

Although, in Halo 2 there are new weapons to whore and camp with. Like the sword. Or the -blam!- rocket launcher that locks onto vehicles.

  • 01.09.2005 12:43 AM PDT
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haha all this pistl talk its called taking cover... being good with the weapn and returning fire
aint that hard man... i never saw a problem witht the pistol sure it was crazy but i dont think it dominate the game too much it still took good players such as mua to take out sosme one with 2 head shots.. many people cant aim it jsut a lil juke or jump would shake them i men really it wasnt that bad..and i played allooooooooooooottt of halo trust me i got the bad grades to prove it

  • 01.09.2005 1:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: GRIZ
haha all this pistl talk its called taking cover... being good with the weapn and returning fire
aint that hard man... i never saw a problem witht the pistol sure it was crazy but i dont think it dominate the game too much it still took good players such as mua to take out sosme one with 2 head shots.. many people cant aim it jsut a lil juke or jump would shake them i men really it wasnt that bad..and i played allooooooooooooottt of halo trust me i got the bad grades to prove it


Wow, somebody's high.

  • 01.09.2005 1:13 AM PDT
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hahahahaha dead is soooo right. if halo one was online more people would play it halo, halo 2 is a yes im going to say it NOOOOOb CONSpiracy.. what do u mean griz? i mean its a marketing strategy by bungie to make the game easier to play by a wider range of people those wider ranges including tons and tons of noobs,,who think they a re good?!?!? one word.. sword!!

but griz u know where the sword is why dont u get it do you suck...
but griz i got 36 medals 20 kills from the sword..im sooooo goood
ps. i hatttttttttte the lock in slide across several feet for the melee attack as well with the guns.. mannny shotgun users exploit this to get closer to you!! watch out for the nooobs

  • 01.09.2005 1:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Vasudan Man
Also, for all you people who will bring up the flood against me, 2 or 3 shots to the chest of a combat form will drop it... Come on, when was the last time you saw somebody kill a zombie by shoting it in the chest!?

By the Way, both games have tied for 2nd best game i have ever played, I just can't chose! Don't Make me!


Well the Infection Form is in the chest of the Combat Form so that was his weak spot i.e. in Halo 2 you can actually see the Infection Form and can kill a Combat form in 1 shot if you aim there.

  • 01.09.2005 7:54 AM PDT
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Meh, true.

  • 01.09.2005 1:49 PM PDT

Turn my headphones up! Turn them -blam!-s up!

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Score: 39 Spree: 16 Deaths: 8 Medals:17 (8 Doubles, 2 Triples, 1 Killtackular, 4 Sprees, 1 Riot, 1 Rampage) Accuracy: 46% Head Shots: 9
Moral of the story: Gauss Hog for President.

Eric 77, if you were a true Halo fan, you would know what a good gamer means when he says a gun is overpowered. Overpowered simply means that the weapon deals out too much damage for how weak it actually should be. For instance, no pistol is more powerful than any type of rifle. The pistol is way more powerful than the AR, therefore it is overpowered. When we say overpowered we are not referring to the fact that people go for it because it is powerful, merely that it should not cause as much damage as it does. In this sense the pistol is OVERPOWERED. Three head shots? No way. I love it, but it is still a way too strong for a pistol. I think Bungie did well by the Battle Rifle, it takes more two seconds to kill someone, and it is a more realistic weapon. Oh, and futurism doesn't make a game my friend, balanced weapons and variety of gameplay do. You start with an SMG to make you search for something better, it is merely a backup. You shouldn't start with the best weapon in the game already (H1 pistol), then you don't really have to work for your kills. And answer me this, why are the weapons more unbalanced in H2? You have to back it up to type.

[Edited on 1/16/2005 9:22:57 PM]

  • 01.16.2005 9:22 PM PDT