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Halo 2 mulitplayer is going to be cool, but some sod will camp somewhere with a sniper rifle picking your entire team off.
How is bungie going to stop camper snipers, the sniper rifle has way to much ammo in each magazine in halo, the sniper can just fire quickly and easyily waste you even if you dodge.

  • 06.07.2004 2:06 PM PDT
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I dunno, snipers do ruin the game if they're constantly doing it. I think that's why there should be obstacles everywhere so a clear sniper shot isn't possible, like Blood Gulch where a shot is possible practically anywhere.

  • 06.07.2004 2:09 PM PDT
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too many clips in a magazine? man, you can really count high... 4... ohhh...

you have to be skilled to dodge a sniper well. in even todays standards, snipers are brutally efficent and can normally kill in 1-2 shots. most of todays snipers just plop down in a secluded area, take aim, and wait for the order to fire. that could be considered camping.

learn to use a sniper yourself. i'm an OK sniper, but if i'm not usually my team's head sniper. if i am, no one really has very high expectaions for me.

snipers are cowards? they are running a risk of being found while they are tracking someone else. someone could run up behind them, and blast them to the 8th level of hell with a shotty, or melee them. snipers are no more cowards than a grenader or pistol -blam!-.

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  • 06.07.2004 2:10 PM PDT
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having snipers allows for tacticle usage, best used as cover fire for troops moving in or suppression fire i would say snipeing is a good thing, and its not to hard to kill a sniper, most of all now becuase we have banshees and BR/plasma carbines.

  • 06.07.2004 2:13 PM PDT
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You are describing a camper, not a sniper. here take this.

Camper- One who sits in one spot and shoots. Generally with the use of a scoped weapon or one that is extremely accurate. To camp is to require no skill. A camper fires as many shots as he can at a target and prays that they hit it. Most of these shots are at the first thing they see. Also campers are generally found easilly and are easy to take down. This is not the work of a sniper.

Sniper- AKA professional. A sniper is one that is a pro. He is accurate(meaning one shot one kill), and stealthy. He is constantly on the move using his enviornment to his advantage to sneak into enemy lines and to cause as much havok without being spotted. He is quiet and deadly, a force feared by friend and foe alike. They stalk their pray and choose their targets according to his team's needs. Meaning he will take a more skilled player out before he bothers wasting ammo on a regular soldier.

Also the SRS99C S2 AM had the right amount of ammo. Any less and it wouyld have sucked. Take Unreal 2 for example. In MP you have three shots before you reload, four is not too much to ask for, especially considering most magazines have an even number of ammunition. As for wasting you even if you dodge. You obviously are not dodging right then. Learn how to properly and you will no longer have problems.

  • 06.07.2004 2:13 PM PDT
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Man sniping takes skill I have practiced ALOT!! and normally kill someone in a shot but camping is stupid I don't camp I constantly move and try to find more ppl to shoot. like someone else said learn to use the sniper rifle it's the best gun on halo.

  • 06.07.2004 2:14 PM PDT
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i dont like snipers either. they got WAAY too good. if i go into a sniper game, i get killed instantly. but really, snipers ARE NOT campers. what are they supposed to do, run around in the middle of a close range battle field trying to snipe these fast action troops? no! in every war game, every war movie you ever see, snipers are most likely STATIONARY. thats the way they are ment to be. thats the way they will be.

but yes, they are annoying. maybe they can..like..uhh..oh yeah! like in conflict:desert storm, you dont hold the sniper rifle steady, so it moves around alot and its harder to aim. they should do that, so they dont have an easy shot.

  • 06.07.2004 2:15 PM PDT
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well, more like 1-2 shot kills. but close enough. not very many people can make
EVERY SINGLE sniper shot a head shot.

  • 06.07.2004 2:16 PM PDT
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I am usually the head sniper of any LAN party, or any group I join on Halo PC online. Sniping isn't easy. I have been sniping from the start (airsoft guns and videogames), and learned the secrets and the dos and donts. Believe me, if you mess up once, you are bound to be seen due to the vapor trail (a fair balance in Halo). Even if you do get the guy, someone will stil probably see you. It's just about your skill level. I mean if you complain about snipers, then I think you need to work on your skills. Especially those who think the pistol is too strong. God! It's perfect. You just need to learn to adapt.

Well I got carried away. That was just my 2 cents.

  • 06.07.2004 2:17 PM PDT
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on my opinion to stop camping snipers is to have the sniper rifle harder to aim

  • 06.07.2004 2:17 PM PDT
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No snipers should not shake b/c that would suck and screw up gameplay .

  • 06.07.2004 2:19 PM PDT
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real life snipers are true soldiers but halo snipers are just cowards
they think their clever coz they have a longer range weapon
hopefully there will be cover in halo 2 coz of the larger levels
the snow warthog in halo 2 has a closed top does that mean snipers can't get you????

  • 06.07.2004 2:19 PM PDT
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yeah but you are a coward if you hide . wimp

  • 06.07.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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i've never really like games where the guy is breathing so heavily that the gun actaully has to move. the mercs on splinter cell: PT breathe like friking bears while sniping. no one has ever gotten the breathing animations for games like that right (see hunting games). the sniper was perfect in halo 1, and it should stay the way it was.

  • 06.07.2004 2:22 PM PDT
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real life snipers are true soldiers but halo snipers are just cowards
they think their clever coz they have a longer range weapon
hopefully there will be cover in halo 2 coz of the larger levels
the snow warthog in halo 2 has a closed top does that mean snipers can't get you????

Your right there should be more cover. If there was more cover the snipers would have a harder time getting many line of sight shots from one place, but they would have an easier time moving from one sniping spot to the next as they should be doing.

But sometimes snipers do need to camp for periods of time, to scope out the map and tell there team mates of the other teams movements. Snipers job is two fold to take targets of opportuinity and information gathering.

[Edited on 6/7/2004 2:26:13 PM]

  • 06.07.2004 2:22 PM PDT
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anyone know about the closed top snow warthog?
is it slow coz of its tracks?
can snipers hit you?

  • 06.07.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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Get a sniper or a rocket launcher a shoot them back. If you're on a team, use some anti-sniper strategy. I've seen it done effectively before.

  • 06.07.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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snipers are found easily in halo anyways. If they shoot you once and don't kill you just look for the white streak in the air, it'll lead you right to them. Yes, ofcourse they will move, but they can't move very far in a respawn time.

  • 06.07.2004 2:23 PM PDT
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hey crimtonic, in ur sig, its spellt haunted, not huanted

  • 06.07.2004 2:24 PM PDT
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I think I have the ebst suggestion.

Get the S2 AM and M6D as is, grow up as people, quit complaining about campers and snipers and get better in skill so you can counter them.

You want some good practice for this? Listen to this.

Get a buddy, get two tvs and two xboxes with Halo and go to Sidewinder. All snipers, 100%health, no shields, no motion tracker, and 50 kills. From here have the TVs facing opposite of each other and stalk each other out. Don't jsut randomly shoot, actually try to hit on the first shot to kill your target. Also don't into those stupid up close grenade/pistol matches. Try to go for sniper/counter sniper type combat.

Trust me it's fun.

I'd know, I did a three hour game of sniping when it was just me and one other guy with 5 lives each. Talk about adrenaline tracking him down while being tracked. That is real sniping.

  • 06.07.2004 2:24 PM PDT
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Halo snipers are cowards eh? I agree with you people who sit in one place and kill people on halo are annoying. The only time it doesnt bother me is if they have an aim, e.g. covering someone or killing a flag carrier for instance. But saying they are cowards is a bit much, its a GAME! How could someone possibly be a coward in a game? Next you'll be having pistol duels when someone offends your honour by taking your flag.

  • 06.07.2004 2:25 PM PDT
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i dont like snipers either. they got WAAY too good. if i go into a sniper game, i get killed instantly

you get killed instantly? what do do? stand around in one place waiting for ur 3 shot pistol to spawn?




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  • 06.07.2004 2:26 PM PDT
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kinda off topic, but kinda not:

i bet that me and my group / team are the best snipers anywhere... this sounds stupid as hell, but we've won many tournaments on CtF Sidewinder because we brought sniper rifles into the tunnels, whereas the enemy was expecting the snipes to be by the teleports... the cool thing is, more than half of the kills we got in the tunnels were from no-scope sniping... we are really good at no-scope single headshot sniping because we have trained a bajillion hours of ALL SNIPER Wizard, or some other small level like Longest (scope prohibited).. We've actually mastered using the sniper rifle as a short range weapon and we all play at 10 sensitivty... well, what i'm really trying to say is: My team > you & yours.

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  • 06.07.2004 2:27 PM PDT
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snipers in halo are just good, + if any one is near by or he misses you, you will spot the vapor trail and take him out, trust me sniping isn't cheep. the pistol was messed up, its a sniper and an assault weapon (a vary good one to) in Halo2 i hope/heard rumers that it will be scopless and a tiny bit weaker.

  • 06.07.2004 2:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: applejacks21
My team > you & yours.


Highly doubt that. When you have a team of 4 that can take on 12 skilled players and win in a CTF 15 capture game, and the enemy gets none, I think then you might be a challenge. Plus we have done our own work as well. We are comfortable with any weapon at nearly any range. (M90 and Needler are excluded from long)

  • 06.07.2004 2:29 PM PDT

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