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Posted by: Foxsnipe
Posted by: Mikeafer
Stand up for what you believe in, I remember reading too.
I am standing up, so dont tell us to stop complaining. Maybe 10$ is great for you, but its not for me and I am not going to do it, and I am not going to do it everytime someone says it cost MS points to buy something. Enhance my gaming experience from out of the multibillionaire jackass who has the money to do it for everyone at least 10 times. I am standing up by complaining about it right here i am standing up and say I dont believe in it. For everyone who says they are fine with this and what not thats great but theres more people out there who arent seeing this that wont touch, We know what would win. Lack of support for this is the only route. But then bungie will probually come back and lie saying that xbox live has had its big download ever for gaming content. Cause you know what that will be crap, cause no game compares to Halo Universe.
You are not standing up, you are making a ruckus that is grossly unneccessary. People are turning this into the civil war instead of the Montgomery Bus Boycott. No one even forced you to play the game online, that was your own choosing. Halo 3 is quite an enjoyable game with campaign and local co-op alone; remember the days when that's all we had? You can't expect everything for free (don't even bring Sony/PS3 into this, each company can do what it wants with its service).
(This is directed at no one in particular)
You will not win by making a scene. The only way to force change is to refuse to give-in, by not buying the goods. Mouth off to Bungie/MS all you want, in the end it won't hurt them in the least. The only way to hurt a company is to refuse to buy their goods or go to a competitor. That's what the free market is all about.
I say again, if you feel ripped off, then wait. Waiting for Spring will not cause your death. If you can't wait, then go find a temporary job to get the $10. If you protest on the principle, then again, don't buy it.
There is no reason for this selfish display of whining, kicking and throwing a tempter tantrum the community has shown. Get over it, life isn't fair. Either buy the map pack, wait, or don't buy it at all. It's your decision, now make it without complaining like a 4 year old.
Today its 10$ for 3 maps, Tomorrow its 15$ for 3 maps. No one needs to keep purchasing crap to enhance a game that cost almost 70$ to begin with. No one. Period. Go on marketplace for your games played go through and look how much it would cost you to enhance only the games you play right now quite often. IT would wipe you clean, for what a couple hours out of your day. Not right.
That argument is what's called the fallacy of slippery slope. Prove to me the price will be greater the next time around and without justification (i.e. the resources put into the product). I bet you can't. Get a better argument.
No one is forcing you to buy any of the content. It's there for those that want it, otherwise, ignore it. Do you see me buying cars for PGR? No, because it doesn't interest me, nevermind the thought I'm sure people have that they should be included free (or where on the PC they are released seperately free). You have no right to get anything you want from these companies. They are providing you a service, whether you wish to take it or not is up to you. Just because it exists does not entitle anyone to it.
Foxsnipe, I have to say that your defensive view is quite narrow.
Nobody held a gun to my head and made be buy any of the Halo games, or the 360, or any of the stuff off of the Marketplace. I chose to do it because I am a fan of video games. I love the Halo franchise.
However, I think there is a larger issue here that gamers need to be wary of. Companies--especially Microsoft--are taking advantage of our love for gaming. Now it's not enough for them to make a profit the old fashioned way by creating a product that people want and offering it for a reasonable price. The new business model is to squeeze every penny out of us that they can. It goes beyond good business into the realm of ridiculous greed and gross disrespect for the ones that make it possible for companies like Microsoft and Bungie to exist in the first place. I think this is a dark time for gamers. Sure, some games may be better than anything we've played before, but it's also costing us more than ever before. This can't go on forever and I fully expect there to be a crash before the next generation or shortly there after. That crash will not be good for those of us that love gaming.
People have every right to complain right now and voice their concerns/resentment. Bungie talks a lot of community. The creation of this "community" of dedicated fans may just be another way to insure cash flow for Bungie, but it actually means a lot to fans. Honestly, I think we deserve better. The bottom line is Bungie is a business and they need to make money, but they are making plenty of that right now and they have us to thank for it. I don't think they should take advantage of us by over-charging for maps--and they are over-charging because $10 is 1/6 the price of the full game that took them three years to make. Don't tell me it took 1/6 of the development time and money to make these three maps. They don't even have to press any disks. It doesn't equate.
More than anything else, I feel really disappointed right now. I want there to be many map packs for Halo 3, but I also don't want to be a mindless sheep that gives Bungie and Microsoft free access to my bank account. Even if $10 isn't anything to you, I would hope that people would stop and look at the big picture. How about we send a clear signal to them that we aren't mindless consumers and hold out on these maps until they are free or the price drops.