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people have too much time to make long posts like the one at the bottom of page 26.

this just in... bungie doesn't care about the 26 pages of complaining in this thread. the DLC plans were most likely drawn up and set into motion before the game was even released. a few 14 year olds complaing about 10 dollars won't get in the way of their business plan.

plus face it, they could have released just one map and charged 10 dollars for it and 75% of you would still buy it and 50% of you would still be saying 'GREAT JOB BUNGIE!!!!!!!' after only seeing a zoomed out picture.

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people have too much time to make long posts like the one at the bottom of page 26.

this just in... bungie doesn't care about the 26 pages of complaining in this thread. the DLC plans were most likely drawn up and set into motion before the game was even released. a few 14 year olds complaing about 10 dollars won't get in the way of their business plan.

plus face it, they could have released just one map and charged 10 dollars for it and 75% of you would still buy it and 50% of you would still be saying 'GREAT JOB BUNGIE!!!!!!!' after only seeing a zoomed out picture.

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I completely agree.

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3 medium sized maps, and they're all human based, unsuprising. Why is it that everyone uses the human stuff? What's wrong with the Covenant weapons, and architecture? Why no small maps? Why is almost every map on earth?


That's another good question. Why are most of the maps human based? I know some of Halo 3 takes place on Earth, but do the MP maps have to? I was hoping for a map that takes place in a Covenant battle Crusier(Like the two levels from Halo 1. I'm praying that is what Purple Reign is.). And why are all of the levels in daytime? I haven't seen one map in night time. Most of the levels are too one-sided for Forge, either having more Human stuff, or Covenant stuff, and seeing how all 3 maps are human from what I saw, I'm guessing this will be a similar scenario with similar choices for Forge stuff in general.

Not very cool, Bungie.

If u didnt notice guys it takes place on earth!!!! DUH


Yes, Halo 3 campaign does take place on Earth, but that doesn't mean the maps have to. Read the whole post before quoting.


I did read the whole quote and im saying, it taked place on earth


Yes, but you're not understanding what I'm saying. I don't care if it took place on Earth. I wouldn't care if it took place on the Covenent home world(Which would be cool). I just want maps in different places other than Earth, or the Rings, for a change on Halo 3. As I said before, the maps for Forge are usually one-sided, such as there being way too many Human weapons/stuff on most of the maps, and a couple of Covenent. If you have read the books, there are a number of other planets that Multiplayer maps could take place. What about Onyx? How about a Flood infested map where the Flood Infecters (Guardians like the Fusion Coils) reserect dead bodies and become an enviromental hazard to everyone? Really, it's not about the current maps, or the Heroic Map Pack, but for future maps I'd like to see something different. Though the Heroic Maps are supposed to be different, they look like more of the same, which isn't bad, but if this continues, then I'm guessing Bungie is running out of ideas. I'm hoping Purple Reign will be something different, as well as other maps to come.

For those of you who are wondering, I'm not mad at the current maps(much), or the Heroic Maps, but at future maps to come. I know that Human-based maps should have more Human stuff, so that's why I'm hoping the new maps after the Heroic Map Pack are not Human based, whether they're on Earth, or not. We have enough Human maps, so I think the Covenent deserve some spotlight, and certainly deserve more than Snowbound. Of course, if the new maps are Human based, but are impressive enough to oversee that detail, then I don't see why I , or we for those who agree with me, can look the other way.

ok sry
this is alot of quoting lol

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Two more words,
HE"S RIGHT!!!!
Would it be that hard to bring snipers back?

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i dont know if they will be great maps because i havent played them yet. they look good though. new maps are better than no maps. i got my two words to say. btb objective. halo 3 is missing that one piece.

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Man i want a weekly update, they didn't have one last week. any stand out is gonna be really good i think the way it sound and i cant wait to forge foundry

  • 11.27.2007 3:35 PM PDT

GT: AuziesWrath :)

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I have way too many things to say and opinions to post and not enough time. I would however like to start by congratulating the DLC and MP design team over at Bungie for making some pretty awesome looking maps (Standoff in particular) I look forward to playing them, but when that time comes is an internal debate that I must resolve by myself.

I would like to resolve a couple of issues that I have noticed that people aren't reading the article and understanding what these maps are about and what Bungie plans to do..... the first being that there Will be 3 new maps released that are fully playable in customs, MM, and Forge. Additionally these maps will be enabled with specialized customization options that the other maps did not have i.e. placeable mancannons and Foundry in particular will have an almost fully rearrangable set-up! This does not mean that this map will download blank!!!! They already have a deafult set-up that no-doubt will be in MM.

Ok, moving on to matchmaking, people are complaining that matchmaking will be messed up because not everybody will have the maps and that BTB will be impossible to play. READ THE ARTICLE! MM will identify what players have what maps and will seperate them from each other. Yes, in the beginning we will be waiting a long time to get a game loaded because not everyone is going to have the maps, guess what DLC maps on every other game have the exact same problems. Nothing can be done to fix that, even if the maps were free people that already had the maps would just be complaining that it's taking too long to find a game in MM because the server decided that it wants to load a DLC map. Sadly, someone just keeps asking if anyone knows whether the (DLC exclusive playlist) will be found under Ranked or Social? Did you read the article? Cause I did and you know what it didn't specify, so what makes you think that anyone here has powers of telepathy and knows the answer to that question????? You can only assume that it would be social for obvious reasons, but we know what happens to you when you ASS-U-ME.

So for everyone complaining about only getting 1-2 maps for matchmaking and one "Forge" only map, please stop posting and take the time to read the article again.



Yes, I'll admit I do think that Xbox live and DLC are taking advantage of consumers in a booming trend referred to as "price gouging". More than half the games released for the Xbox 360 do not deserve their $59.99 tag price nor do they deserve an additional $5 - $25 increase for "exclusive", "downloadable", "special edition", etc. etc...... content; however sometimes and to some people it is worth it.

I think everyone should respect everyone else's opinion on whether or not they choose to purchase the maps now or later, no more of this pointless bickering and biting at Bungie for just doing what it is they enjoy.

Remember that you should be able to make yourself happy with what you create, just as much as they should. If they wanna make a couple of maps that are in their own respect "good maps" then they can. Why? Because they are the ones that took those jobs.

Yes, fan and consumer based opinion is very essential to running a profitable organization! Yes, we could have used a smaller FFA, 1v1, arena style map and some more people would have been happy.... But who's to say that they are not going to??

There are still 3 maps that have been unseen that have been mentioned as DLC in the future (Moonbase Alpha, Purple Reign, and O.K. Corral) and whose to say that Frankie doesn't do another news article the 2nd week of December when the 3 new maps are available and start telling us about even more maps and content that they have created.

Patience is a virtue that I will employ, I do think that 4 maps for $10 would have been reasonable to me. And that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it without having to slander somebody else's. So I will wait until spring and be content with what I have purchased until then.

IMO Bungie takes pretty good care of their community, very few LARGE companies pay as much attention to their fans as much as they do. Yeah they're not perfect, and nobody is.

Bottom line..... Don't buy the game if you can't afford it or don't think that it's worth the purchase, and if you can afford or you will find someway to make it happen because you feel it's worth it, then by all means enjoy =)

Don't slander somebody's social status/opinion/values because they find more value in necessity over desire.

BTW, I really think that a patch would be very helpful and much appreciated and obviously more maps (fan desired) wouldn't hurt either.

But let's not forget about things like, new custom armor permutations, weapons/vehicles, and possibly even some sort of side quests for the Arbiter or something that could still easily be added to this game.

Let's not forget that "Best Multiplayer Game of the Year" is not "Game of the Year" and that Halo 3 will be judged on more than that category...

Amazing job so far guys!!!!!! Keep up the good work over there BUNGIE

(Criticism is still attention and attention is love. No matter what some members of the community may say or even those that claim to have moved on to COD4, they wouldn't take the time to read the topic and check the site if they didn't still love Halo!)



Can't believe i read that :'(

  • 11.27.2007 3:55 PM PDT

Some people are just total noobs at life!

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I have way too many things to say and opinions to post and not enough time. I would however like to start by congratulating the DLC and MP design team over at Bungie for making some pretty awesome looking maps (Standoff in particular) I look forward to playing them, but when that time comes is an internal debate that I must resolve by myself.

I would like to resolve a couple of issues that I have noticed that people aren't reading the article and understanding what these maps are about and what Bungie plans to do..... the first being that there Will be 3 new maps released that are fully playable in customs, MM, and Forge. Additionally these maps will be enabled with specialized customization options that the other maps did not have i.e. placeable mancannons and Foundry in particular will have an almost fully rearrangable set-up! This does not mean that this map will download blank!!!! They already have a deafult set-up that no-doubt will be in MM.

Ok, moving on to matchmaking, people are complaining that matchmaking will be messed up because not everybody will have the maps and that BTB will be impossible to play. READ THE ARTICLE! MM will identify what players have what maps and will seperate them from each other. Yes, in the beginning we will be waiting a long time to get a game loaded because not everyone is going to have the maps, guess what DLC maps on every other game have the exact same problems. Nothing can be done to fix that, even if the maps were free people that already had the maps would just be complaining that it's taking too long to find a game in MM because the server decided that it wants to load a DLC map. Sadly, someone just keeps asking if anyone knows whether the (DLC exclusive playlist) will be found under Ranked or Social? Did you read the article? Cause I did and you know what it didn't specify, so what makes you think that anyone here has powers of telepathy and knows the answer to that question????? You can only assume that it would be social for obvious reasons, but we know what happens to you when you ASS-U-ME.

So for everyone complaining about only getting 1-2 maps for matchmaking and one "Forge" only map, please stop posting and take the time to read the article again.



Yes, I'll admit I do think that Xbox live and DLC are taking advantage of consumers in a booming trend referred to as "price gouging". More than half the games released for the Xbox 360 do not deserve their $59.99 tag price nor do they deserve an additional $5 - $25 increase for "exclusive", "downloadable", "special edition", etc. etc...... content; however sometimes and to some people it is worth it.

I think everyone should respect everyone else's opinion on whether or not they choose to purchase the maps now or later, no more of this pointless bickering and biting at Bungie for just doing what it is they enjoy.

Remember that you should be able to make yourself happy with what you create, just as much as they should. If they wanna make a couple of maps that are in their own respect "good maps" then they can. Why? Because they are the ones that took those jobs.

Yes, fan and consumer based opinion is very essential to running a profitable organization! Yes, we could have used a smaller FFA, 1v1, arena style map and some more people would have been happy.... But who's to say that they are not going to??

There are still 3 maps that have been unseen that have been mentioned as DLC in the future (Moonbase Alpha, Purple Reign, and O.K. Corral) and whose to say that Frankie doesn't do another news article the 2nd week of December when the 3 new maps are available and start telling us about even more maps and content that they have created.

Patience is a virtue that I will employ, I do think that 4 maps for $10 would have been reasonable to me. And that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it without having to slander somebody else's. So I will wait until spring and be content with what I have purchased until then.

IMO Bungie takes pretty good care of their community, very few LARGE companies pay as much attention to their fans as much as they do. Yeah they're not perfect, and nobody is.

Bottom line..... Don't buy the game if you can't afford it or don't think that it's worth the purchase, and if you can afford or you will find someway to make it happen because you feel it's worth it, then by all means enjoy =)

Don't slander somebody's social status/opinion/values because they find more value in necessity over desire.

BTW, I really think that a patch would be very helpful and much appreciated and obviously more maps (fan desired) wouldn't hurt either.

But let's not forget about things like, new custom armor permutations, weapons/vehicles, and possibly even some sort of side quests for the Arbiter or something that could still easily be added to this game.

Let's not forget that "Best Multiplayer Game of the Year" is not "Game of the Year" and that Halo 3 will be judged on more than that category...

Amazing job so far guys!!!!!! Keep up the good work over there BUNGIE

(Criticism is still attention and attention is love. No matter what some members of the community may say or even those that claim to have moved on to COD4, they wouldn't take the time to read the topic and check the site if they didn't still love Halo!)


tyvm Subjugator everthing you say is so true everythings that was needed to be said was said. i advise everyone whos about to post read this first. this guy knows wat he's talkin about

  • 11.27.2007 7:44 PM PDT

Does Anyone know if there will be more map packs in the future. Because the h3 maps weren't that great, and i think they need to come out with more so that there are enough great maps. But yeah thanks any bungie

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Posted by: Subjugator 22
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I have way too many things to say and opinions to post and not enough time. I would however like to start by congratulating the DLC and MP design team over at Bungie for making some pretty awesome looking maps (Standoff in particular) I look forward to playing them, but when that time comes is an internal debate that I must resolve by myself.

I would like to resolve a couple of issues that I have noticed that people aren't reading the article and understanding what these maps are about and what Bungie plans to do..... the first being that there Will be 3 new maps released that are fully playable in customs, MM, and Forge. Additionally these maps will be enabled with specialized customization options that the other maps did not have i.e. placeable mancannons and Foundry in particular will have an almost fully rearrangable set-up! This does not mean that this map will download blank!!!! They already have a deafult set-up that no-doubt will be in MM.

Ok, moving on to matchmaking, people are complaining that matchmaking will be messed up because not everybody will have the maps and that BTB will be impossible to play. READ THE ARTICLE! MM will identify what players have what maps and will seperate them from each other. Yes, in the beginning we will be waiting a long time to get a game loaded because not everyone is going to have the maps, guess what DLC maps on every other game have the exact same problems. Nothing can be done to fix that, even if the maps were free people that already had the maps would just be complaining that it's taking too long to find a game in MM because the server decided that it wants to load a DLC map. Sadly, someone just keeps asking if anyone knows whether the (DLC exclusive playlist) will be found under Ranked or Social? Did you read the article? Cause I did and you know what it didn't specify, so what makes you think that anyone here has powers of telepathy and knows the answer to that question????? You can only assume that it would be social for obvious reasons, but we know what happens to you when you ASS-U-ME.

So for everyone complaining about only getting 1-2 maps for matchmaking and one "Forge" only map, please stop posting and take the time to read the article again.



Yes, I'll admit I do think that Xbox live and DLC are taking advantage of consumers in a booming trend referred to as "price gouging". More than half the games released for the Xbox 360 do not deserve their $59.99 tag price nor do they deserve an additional $5 - $25 increase for "exclusive", "downloadable", "special edition", etc. etc...... content; however sometimes and to some people it is worth it.

I think everyone should respect everyone else's opinion on whether or not they choose to purchase the maps now or later, no more of this pointless bickering and biting at Bungie for just doing what it is they enjoy.

Remember that you should be able to make yourself happy with what you create, just as much as they should. If they wanna make a couple of maps that are in their own respect "good maps" then they can. Why? Because they are the ones that took those jobs.

Yes, fan and consumer based opinion is very essential to running a profitable organization! Yes, we could have used a smaller FFA, 1v1, arena style map and some more people would have been happy.... But who's to say that they are not going to??

There are still 3 maps that have been unseen that have been mentioned as DLC in the future (Moonbase Alpha, Purple Reign, and O.K. Corral) and whose to say that Frankie doesn't do another news article the 2nd week of December when the 3 new maps are available and start telling us about even more maps and content that they have created.

Patience is a virtue that I will employ, I do think that 4 maps for $10 would have been reasonable to me. And that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it without having to slander somebody else's. So I will wait until spring and be content with what I have purchased until then.

IMO Bungie takes pretty good care of their community, very few LARGE companies pay as much attention to their fans as much as they do. Yeah they're not perfect, and nobody is.

Bottom line..... Don't buy the game if you can't afford it or don't think that it's worth the purchase, and if you can afford or you will find someway to make it happen because you feel it's worth it, then by all means enjoy =)

Don't slander somebody's social status/opinion/values because they find more value in necessity over desire.

BTW, I really think that a patch would be very helpful and much appreciated and obviously more maps (fan desired) wouldn't hurt either.

But let's not forget about things like, new custom armor permutations, weapons/vehicles, and possibly even some sort of side quests for the Arbiter or something that could still easily be added to this game.

Let's not forget that "Best Multiplayer Game of the Year" is not "Game of the Year" and that Halo 3 will be judged on more than that category...

Amazing job so far guys!!!!!! Keep up the good work over there BUNGIE

(Criticism is still attention and attention is love. No matter what some members of the community may say or even those that claim to have moved on to COD4, they wouldn't take the time to read the topic and check the site if they didn't still love Halo!)



thank you, ur the only person so far that actually knows that ok corral is different than standoff. and that those 3 maps were mentioned in some of the latest updates but not have been shown yet

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Does Anyone know if there will be more map packs in the future. Because the h3 maps weren't that great, and i think they need to come out with more so that there are enough great maps. But yeah thanks any bungie


Dude this is Bungie were talking about we WILL! see more maps. They will have a whole section of Bungie that soul need is to create more "kick ASS!" maps for Halo 3.

(I bet they dont even sleep?)

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Although these maps will be great and the man cannon and shield doors on Forge will also be nice, I am fairly dissapointed. Bungie has made well structured maps, but has failed at making any EPIC maps. Throw away all the nearly symetrical maps such as Construct and Midship, they have to be the most poorly designed maps Bungie has made. Why can't they, for once, make something such as a Thunderstorming platuea that limits vision with rain pellets on your visor and a big hill in the middle with bunker and cliffs and caves, with a huge omenous sky overlooking the whole doom-ish scene. They need to expand their ideas outside of their typical MLG maps of boring symmetry.

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Posted by: PlagueOfDarkness
Although these maps will be great and the man cannon and shield doors on Forge will also be nice, I am fairly dissapointed. Bungie has made well structured maps, but has failed at making any EPIC maps. Throw away all the nearly symetrical maps such as Construct and Midship, they have to be the most poorly designed maps Bungie has made. Why can't they, for once, make something such as a Thunderstorming platuea that limits vision with rain pellets on your visor and a big hill in the middle with bunker and cliffs and caves, with a huge omenous sky overlooking the whole doom-ish scene. They need to expand their ideas outside of their typical MLG maps of boring symmetry.

dude ur gonna judge the new maps by a picture. wow. and i dont see a problem with the other maps i mean some could be better but they arnt terrible. You've gotta give em a break because they are under so much pressure from people like u. Is u want an amazing map then maybe u should make one.
The man cannon and shield doors are gonna be awsome too.

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Hey Bungie, i thought Forge was going to be more than just a editing station. Before the release of Halo 3 I saw your ViDoc for forge and saw that you guys were using it for battles, with one (oracle) on each team. I can't find 15 other players to play this with me. So i have a question, CAN FORGE BE PUT INTO A PLAYLIST AND USED FOR BATTLE? Big Team? Since i have all of the achievements, theres nothing else for me to do Online on Halo 3 but to get my rank up........PLEASE GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO DAMN IT!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Hemlock Sandwich
Hey Bungie, i thought Forge was going to be more than just a editing station. Before the release of Halo 3 I saw your ViDoc for forge and saw that you guys were using it for battles, with one (oracle) on each team. I can't find 15 other players to play this with me. So i have a question, CAN FORGE BE PUT INTO A PLAYLIST AND USED FOR BATTLE? Big Team? Since i have all of the achievements, theres nothing else for me to do Online on Halo 3 but to get my rank up........PLEASE GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO DAMN IT!!!!!!!!

i agree or let us put custom games up for optimatch like Rainbow six

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i think bungie ran out of map ideas for halo 3. BRING BACK MORE REMAKES. on a lighter note, WTF 10 dollars?

  • 11.28.2007 5:31 PM PDT

Remember that time I gave you guys 50 dollars for Halo Combat Evolved, then another 50 for Halo Combat Evolved PC, 50 for Halo 2, and 70 for Halo 3. I think we deserve a little loyalty for supporting you guys constantly. $220 and you can't give us 3 maps that we already bought. Not to mention the 60 dollars for Crackdown just so I could participate in the beta. 290, over 300 if you add the tax in.....

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really like the new maps

  • 11.28.2007 9:09 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

yes the new maps will be fun (for some & suck for others, Its inevitable) but we could use an epic map or two. Ten dollars is a bit much for three maps. we could also use a patch ( I guess, most of the time I feel its fair but then about 10% of the time, crazzy - blaming blam - happens) and some covenant designed (or just random alien world) maps, and a few tweeks to MM (ie Team swat , Btb Object, Hardcore , 8 man Ffa , custom game search, and Forge playlist) and just because MS is split doesnt mean Gates is done with you,...... he is the anti-christ after all.

[Edited on 11.28.2007 9:57 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2007 9:51 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

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Remember that time I gave you guys 50 dollars for Halo Combat Evolved, then another 50 for Halo Combat Evolved PC, 50 for Halo 2, and 70 for Halo 3. I think we deserve a little loyalty for supporting you guys constantly. $220 and you can't give us 3 maps that we already bought. Not to mention the 60 dollars for Crackdown just so I could participate in the beta. 290, over 300 if you add the tax in.....
Nice


[Edited on 11.28.2007 9:54 PM PST]

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Posted by: shanksterr
Remember that time I gave you guys 50 dollars for Halo Combat Evolved, then another 50 for Halo Combat Evolved PC, 50 for Halo 2, and 70 for Halo 3. I think we deserve a little loyalty for supporting you guys constantly. $220 and you can't give us 3 maps that we already bought. Not to mention the 60 dollars for Crackdown just so I could participate in the beta. 290, over 300 if you add the tax in.....


yea, I kind agree. I bought the legendary edition. I think we need to get some compensation for buying a version that costs more. ie, people who bought legendary should get this and all other map packs for free, and the cost should go up from there for people who bought lesser versions, but not cost much a all, maybe like 2-3 dollars. The Halo 2 MP map pack cd costs $15 at my local Gamestop and that was 9 new maps. some of that money was probably going towards the creation of the CD, so now with DLC on XBL that cost can be eliminated, so there is only the cost of the new maps. now 15/9 is $1.67 so, 3 maps should cost at most $5.01 if sold on a CD, which they will not be, so overall it should cost less than that. I'll be waiting till next spring when they are free.

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not every body has used as much money as u have not our fault u have spent 150 extra dollars besides halo 3

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Posted by: shanksterr
Remember that time I gave you guys 50 dollars for Halo Combat Evolved, then another 50 for Halo Combat Evolved PC, 50 for Halo 2, and 70 for Halo 3. I think we deserve a little loyalty for supporting you guys constantly. $220 and you can't give us 3 maps that we already bought. Not to mention the 60 dollars for Crackdown just so I could participate in the beta. 290, over 300 if you add the tax in.....


yea, I kind agree. I bought the legendary edition. I think we need to get some compensation for buying a version that costs more. ie, people who bought legendary should get this and all other map packs for free, and the cost should go up from there for people who bought lesser versions, but not cost much a all, maybe like 2-3 dollars. The Halo 2 MP map pack cd costs $15 at my local Gamestop and that was 9 new maps. some of that money was probably going towards the creation of the CD, so now with DLC on XBL that cost can be eliminated, so there is only the cost of the new maps. now 15/9 is $1.67 so, 3 maps should cost at most $5.01 if sold on a CD, which they will not be, so overall it should cost less than that. I'll be waiting till next spring when they are free.

Not everybody got the legendary edition and its not our problem if u wasted ur money

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wow. 1 Dude if u havent noticed the cost of living is going up thats probably one reson.2 they put time and effort in to the maps so they probably would like to be paid.3 Get used to it. Life isnt fair. And u guys compaining probably wont make them change thier minds. If u were in there position u would want as much money as possible and u can make 10 bucks in about an hour 2 if u just started working and u probably have 10 dollars now. U guys are just compianing cause u want attention

  • 11.29.2007 4:34 AM PDT