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First off, nice guide Hikaru 119. I can't emphasise using the edges enough. And checking all the way around yourself. Ifnot, if you've got a really good profressional sniper behind you they can get behind you and you'll be dead before you can say 'sniper'.

  • 07.06.2004 5:16 PM PDT
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Do you have any tips for defeating a sniper? they would be of great use to me.

  • 07.06.2004 5:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: silentstalker101
Do you have any tips for defeating a sniper? they would be of great use to me.


well, the only way I see to defeat a sniper is simply being a better sniper =P but I'll put down a few pointers:

If we're talking sniper vs sniper, then it really does go down to whos the better sniper. Practicing with a partner is the best way of getting better. That way you can get used to the movements another person would use to dodge your shots. Other then that, powerups would be key. Active camo all the way!

As for getting upclose and personal (or.. semi close anyway) the pistol is your best friend. That depends on whether you've been spotted or not ofcourse. If you havent been spotted, take your time and figure out the best option (ie, should I snipe him when he's not moving or keep moving as close to him as I can and then strike) Now, if a sniper is heading your way, but hasnt seen you at all (since he's scanning in the other direction) its a wonderful blow to their ego when you smack them on the back. I've killed (and been killed) doing that way just because the enemy wasn't looking where he was going.

Now, if you have been spotted.. you probably wont know until its too late. However, sometimes they'll miss and you'll see that you're a target. Rule of thumb; DONT JUMP; if you do, that sniper will already know where'll you'll be going by the time you land and have probably already killed you in mid-air. Try being random in movements as well, sometimes ducking is agood thing. Oh, and also, if you're out in the open, hills are a good thing.. not for standing ontop of. This goes especially for blood gultch. If you want to be proctected by snipers who are behind their base, follow the mini valley path, that way they really cant see you (and thus, snipe you) Now if you need to take a quick view to the other side, try just skimming the edge of the hill so only a part of you is visible to the enemy. Again, the pistol is your best friend in this situation

Hope that helps

  • 07.06.2004 6:31 PM PDT
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I like to think of sniping as 90% mental and 10% physical. To many times people overemphasis aiming as a trait of a sniper. That is a mistake it's one thing to be a good shot it's another thing to wait out be patient and take down someone only when the oppurtunity presents itself. Always use your head to prevent losing it, your anticapation of the enemy must be right on. Once you kill someone from a spot usually the will try and stop and will assume your going to use that spot again instead of camping in one spot use counter sniping spots to trap your enemy. For example one spot in blood gultch that I use is below the blue side tunnels in a small indentation in the hill from there I can get shots at the red side pathway and the blue hilll ramp and if I have the TV sound up I can hear would be snipers walking above me! Only use these spots when there is a enemy sniper for sure.

  • 07.06.2004 7:08 PM PDT
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Scince about 3 months ago I have never missed a headshot. How? Well theres this thing i saw in a hunting catalog. You watch your enemy move (if moving) Then slowly follow him with the sniper rifle. When your (crosshairs) get on his head. You fire. This is called the follow through method and i hope to hell noone posted it yet.

  • 07.06.2004 7:24 PM PDT
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Shooting the enemy in the head.....Brillant! (Guiness draft style)

  • 07.06.2004 7:25 PM PDT
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lolol your all talk and no action, you talk the talk but can you walk the walk? If you've ever been to a range they teach you to lead your shot, wile the enemy is runnin you shoot in front of them, its logical. Hes moving so if you shoot where he is you'll miss. Master that and sniping will be as easy as pie.

  • 07.06.2004 10:19 PM PDT
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wow. i really must congratulate you on this more than awesome guide...im actually suprized at how many ppl dont know most of this...u left out vehicles, which are pretty easy. just go for the head...but once again congrats on the lesson.

  • 07.06.2004 10:34 PM PDT
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Edit : If I don't have anything nice to say, I won't say anything at all.

[Edited on 7/6/2004 11:11:38 PM]

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hmm.. there really isnt much you can do vs vehicles. I mean, obviously someone in a tank is just asking for a head shot because they cant look around and drive around at the same time. (as well as their head is really easy to track)

And really the best way to snipe a person from a vehicle is when they're either just getting on it, or just getting out of it. The problem I see with sniping someone in a vehicle while its in motion is that the vehicle wont be driving in the same direction at the same speed, so you have to constantly correct your aim.

  • 07.06.2004 11:00 PM PDT
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Another "Trick" thats been there for a while is if your moving and your enemy is moving autoaim takes place. the cross hair sways with the person. If you are sniping and aren't seen, try walking back and forth and then take your shot or 2. I know you people dont like these little tricks to be posted, but i believe it does help with sniping.

  • 07.06.2004 11:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: ClearArmor
Another "Trick" thats been there for a while is if your moving and your enemy is moving autoaim takes place. the cross hair sways with the person. If you are sniping and aren't seen, try walking back and forth and then take your shot or 2. I know you people dont like these little tricks to be posted, but i believe it does help with sniping.


That only happens on single and it only works on a lower difficulty such as Easy or Normal and that won't help you get any better.

  • 07.07.2004 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: silentstalker101
Posted by: ClearArmor
Another "Trick" thats been there for a while is if your moving and your enemy is moving autoaim takes place. the cross hair sways with the person. If you are sniping and aren't seen, try walking back and forth and then take your shot or 2. I know you people dont like these little tricks to be posted, but i believe it does help with sniping.


That only happens on single and it only works on a lower difficulty such as Easy or Normal and that won't help you get any better.


Wrong.

  • 07.07.2004 3:57 PM PDT
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hey this is one of my favorite drills to do

steal the banshee in aotcr and fly up to the very top ledge that circles around the valley, stand there and then snipe out everyone at the bottom
here's the hard part, after everything is dead
make sure you have 4 frag grenades.
1- take a frag
2- throw it down toward the bottom
3- spin around
4- target it, and shoot it before it hits the ground

you will know when you hit it because the frag will ricochet off into a completely different direction while its falling
it helps to target things quickly and get a fast shot off, not that fast is always good with sniping but it helps if ur in a tight spot

  • 07.07.2004 5:09 PM PDT
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So uh yeah, I've got another pretty decent pointer, though its pretty short.

Out of all honesty, I usually dont go for the head, unless my target is standing still.. alot of the times its just too difficult to have a good lead on them for the headshot while their in motion, because they're probably constantly changing their direction. Especially when I need to make a quick kill. I understand the fear of being spotted after a shot is fired (from the quite obvious trail left) but in reality, the time it takes to fire two consecutive sniper shots at someone is faster than the target realizing he's being sniped. Basically, by the time you've killed that person, weather it be one shot or two shots, its still too fast for the person to really figure out he was sniped.

so.. sniper lesson for the day kids; snipe smart, dont snipe flashy

Oh, and I did some "testing" on the range of the pistol, basically its effective range is 1/3 across blood gultch from one base. so that's also a very effective weapon for sniping, and especially counter sniping. (but thats kinda obvious anyway)

  • 07.07.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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some good pointers. i have one good way do deal with a sniper. one word TANK. if you can see the trail left by a sniper bullet and your faster. its a good way to see a sniper fly and it makes them really mad so they dont go with the sniper tactics much longer

  • 07.07.2004 6:52 PM PDT

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First off that would only work for a camper, not a sniper, and secondly, if I even saw a turret move in my direction you would be dead before you saw the tracer.
Posted by: Spartan II7
some good pointers. i have one good way do deal with a sniper. one word TANK. if you can see the trail left by a sniper bullet and your faster. its a good way to see a sniper fly and it makes them really mad so they dont go with the sniper tactics much longer

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I've got a few things to add here (since Hikaru and others covered basically everything possible)

Radar- When in or near enemy territory (ie not at your base) always keep one eye trained on your radar, trust me, when I'm up in the shadows in Sidewider, by the tunnels, I don't know how many times little red blips start moving towards me. The best thing to do is, in the first place, stay out of the most logical route for them to take (ie In CTF don't stand between them and the flag) and secondly, dont panic and start to shoot like a mad man. Just wait and watch him pass, now if he does start to turn, you should have a bead on him, pull one off and even a second if you can, but I recomend after that first shot, whip out your second weapon and give him hell.

Combos- I personally always like the Sniper/Shotgun combo (though your are slightly vulnerable at mid range) when an anti-sniper comes creeping up behind you (remember radar) take you your trusty buck shot and pump em full. Sniper and Pistol is a very common combo.
I have also seen a unique strategy where one player graps a Plasma Rifle while the other gets the Sniper. The Plasma holder opens up on a helpless victim (slowing him by a astonishing amount) which the Sniper(usually new to sniping game) finishes him off. It works well to train newbies... but in the long run your wasting an extra man.

TALK, TALK, TALK - Be sure to talk to your teamates. The team who talks is the team that wins. Constantly give them intel on the situation (ie Two guys flanking right, sniper on tower, one making a break for the flag, Worthog with _ people are on the move etc). And in return ASK for intel (ie. If the flag is stolen where is he headed, if someone has taken your base ask how many there are etc)

Dead Flag- there it is... a dead flag in the middle of the map (bearer died and flag dropped). Personally I always divert all attention to protecting it. Capping off as many of the enemy that were hopelessly running for the downed flag. Don't worry about being spotted you'd die if you went for the thing anyway (This is just my style and of course you may not want to do this). BUT if you're in a large map such as Sidewinder and you are the only hope to get it, make a flatout run for the damn thing, put your aim in 2x and sidestep picking off runners slowly closing in. If a sniper tries to ping you off be random but, whatever you do, DONT JUMP (I know many others have said this but almost everyone's reaction to getting shot at it "Oh, look at that I'll just jump so they can see me even more)

Worthog- if on Sidewinder wait till the recklace drive hits the ice, that is a pure deathtrap. In Blood Gulch wait for the drive to take a slow jump, or crash into a rock, clif, base etc. Remember don't waste your shot on his windshield, if you're a skilled sniper wait for it to drive by you leaving his/her side vulnerable and lead your targer substancially.

Tanks- Alls yous gostas do is aim for the grate and wait for his turret to be about 180 degrees away from you and then quickly fire two shots as fast as you can and take him out because once you fire that first one he's gunna be right on you, and you might not live to shoot the second. Another option is throw a frag (there is only a faint entrail and when it hit and his turret goes wondering open up on hm. One shot should do it if not quickly pop off another one.

Ghost- IMO it's best to get it when it's strafing or in the heat of combat. As you know Ghost driver usually do circles around their enemies trying to spray their plasma all over their ass, or just run em down (which is semi-hard to do really with the hover and all). Lead your target but if you have the most bare side of the vehicle and hes strafing toward you just aim for his noggen. Now if hes burnin it down lead you recticle quite a bit (further than the Hog at top speed) and just try to get a lucky shot. If he does turn to face you, he will most likely be in your allies territroy alreay.

Pretty much it from me... hope ya liked it, I was just trying to fill in some of the things that were missed... and my own variants lol :p

Shifty


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  • 07.07.2004 8:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deano
So uh yeah, I've got another pretty decent pointer, though its pretty short.

Out of all honesty, I usually dont go for the head, unless my target is standing still.. alot of the times its just too difficult to have a good lead on them for the headshot while their in motion, because they're probably constantly changing their direction. Especially when I need to make a quick kill. I understand the fear of being spotted after a shot is fired (from the quite obvious trail left) but in reality, the time it takes to fire two consecutive sniper shots at someone is faster than the target realizing he's being sniped. Basically, by the time you've killed that person, weather it be one shot or two shots, its still too fast for the person to really figure out he was sniped.

so.. sniper lesson for the day kids; snipe smart, dont snipe flashy

Oh, and I did some "testing" on the range of the pistol, basically its effective range is 1/3 across blood gultch from one base. so that's also a very effective weapon for sniping, and especially counter sniping. (but thats kinda obvious anyway)


True but with enough practice you can lead your target and automatically be honed in on the head. Sometimes I will aim carefully and suprise myself with a headshot it's all just your level of practice. It's like the pistol masters are always honed in on the head it's just second nature.

  • 07.07.2004 9:33 PM PDT
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uve posted stuff on how to be a better sniper, but not really anything on being better with a pistol. Most ppl dont like to do this, but if u get 3 or 4 ppl together, 400 percent health, no shields, all invisibvle, and no radar, ur pistol skills will be 100 times better when u go back to normal playing. It forces u to be more aware, and use the pistol more effeciently because when u fire u become visible., and since headshots are one shot kills, u automatically aim for the head, even against invisible players. You will also find taht u will get better at spotting opponents.

i fancy myself as a "pistoleer"

[Edited on 7/7/2004 10:01:11 PM]

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Well getting better wit the M6D is only part of the game. Most snipers rely on their rifles, not their pistols when it comes down to true sniping combat. And from what you described that seems more like being a sharpshooter of shorts, or a skilled assaulter, not a sniper.

  • 07.08.2004 8:23 AM PDT
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that was an awesome guide hikaru 119. I learned more from you than I learned in a month of playing!!!!!

  • 07.08.2004 10:34 AM PDT
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Ah, sniping a sniper. Easy. Get a S2 AM Sniper's Rifle (duh) and then find cover. Headshot em and its just one more corpse on the ground. It is nessecary to make a headshot, because theyll be all over you. They = Sniper + teammates. And more shots equals more trails and more trails equals more visibility and to a good Halo player, he/she would assume theres a newbie sniper in the area and make an easy kill with el Pistol. Oh yea, when playing LAN and youre sniping someone on the other team, the pistol is deadly because they dont hear the shots being fired on the other TV. Its a risk to not headshot snipe/snipe a guy with teammates near in the shadows because theres a very noticeible muzzleflash.


All i need help on is ghosts/warthogs.

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I can hit ghosts but for some reasons I have problems with Warthogs.

  • 07.08.2004 1:27 PM PDT

[color=white]Hikaru, good guide. Lots of great tips for the uninformed.

You mentioned saving your skin many times by hiding behind a Warthog...have you started thinking about how that strategy will change in Halo 2 with the destructible 'hog (and environments)? Just curious, as I've been giving it quite a bit of thought myself.[/color]

  • 07.08.2004 4:44 PM PDT