- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: Canadian_MC
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: ajenteks
and in the long run does nothing to solve the problems of the world, save that one less person is contributing to those problems.
Ahhh, then by this logic if everybody was buddhist then there would be no problem, as nobody would be adding problem.
Also, I can't remember any wars started in the name of Buddha. Unlike the christian god(see our ignorant president).
The war in Iraq wasn't started by Bush. It's from the jealousy and frustration of the "falling behind" Middle East that we are thrown into this war
Although, if you're from over there, you'd probably think that we, the "infidels", are trying to reach a totalitarian form of religion, and be rid of Islam; neither is true. If anyone is starting a war over religion, then it's the radical Islam "fundamentalists" of the Middle East (Osama, Qaddafi)
Even more to go with the discussion of bad people being brought up in good homes, the terrorists are actually from states that are friendly to the US, making things even more ironic...
And there's my political input, of which I will never speak of again...mods...
*sighs in disgust*
We weren't thrown into any war. Bush most certainly jumped in, or did you forget WMD's? You know? The one's that weren't there. The one's that the U.N. knew weren't there, right before our cause changed to Iraqi freedom. If anybody cared about Iraqi freedom we would have freed them before September 11th gave us the excuse to invade and occupy this country. Our war was with the taliban, not Iraq. Iraq didn't do anything to constitute invasion, the rest of the world knows it, shame some in our country don't. Yes our enemies are from ally countries. Osama's own brother was having lunch with Bush Sr. in Washington D.C. when the planes hit the WTC. I think some people forget Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorists attacks on our country, had no money, and were no threat to us. Bush actually said God spoke to him and lead him on the path to war in Iraq. If you're from over there you are probably wondering why the U.S. has screwed them over for the past 15 years, and then abbandoned them. We could cure a lot of terrorism by fixing the Israel/Palestine conflict we took part in making worse. Nobody over there thinks we are trying to be rid of Islam. They'd have no reason to think that, I don't know where that came from.
There is a reason the rest of the world hates us. They have good reason to.
The Israel/Palenstine conflict isn't easy enough to fix by doing one thing. The entire Middle East hates Israel, first of all, because they have been puppets to just about every nation in recent history (Soviets, Germany, USA). In Islam, there are sections of people who feel that the whole world needs to be "cleansed" from the evil that the West presents. It isn't exact Christianity, but more of our lifestyle and our non-culture. To them, we are lustful, flakey, and only concerned about the well-being of ourselves. This, along with how they believe that the West is wrongfully influencing their neck of da woods, all contributes to the tension that has been existing for years now.
Yes, America has done some idiotic things in the past (fighting Saddam, and then letting him go, only to slaughter the people that we originally convinced to defy him), but what we are doing now is not based upon religion. Clinton wanted to do the same kind of thing when he was in office, and it had nothing to do with religion. Saddam is one of few people who has enough (bad) influence on the Middle East. One of the major things that the United States has been doing for years now, is preventing the region from turning into a hegemony, ruled by someone like Saddam.
And there are people over there who think that this is a holy war, even though so far anything that we've talked about is political; nothing religious. It'd be impossible to start a war over an individual, or indivdual's, beliefs of religion
* WOMD - Not found, but doesn't mean they never exsisted...
* Liberation to the people of Iraq - done
* Bringing a democratic influence, that isn't hated into the region (Israel) - done
There isnt a democratic government in Iraq. The U.S.A. is going to put in some guy as their puppet to lead Iraq. Posted by: Canadian_MC
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: ajenteks
and in the long run does nothing to solve the problems of the world, save that one less person is contributing to those problems.
Ahhh, then by this logic if everybody was buddhist then there would be no problem, as nobody would be adding problem.
Also, I can't remember any wars started in the name of Buddha. Unlike the christian god(see our ignorant president).
The war in Iraq wasn't started by Bush. It's from the jealousy and frustration of the "falling behind" Middle East that we are thrown into this war
Although, if you're from over there, you'd probably think that we, the "infidels", are trying to reach a totalitarian form of religion, and be rid of Islam; neither is true. If anyone is starting a war over religion, then it's the radical Islam "fundamentalists" of the Middle East (Osama, Qaddafi)
Even more to go with the discussion of bad people being brought up in good homes, the terrorists are actually from states that are friendly to the US, making things even more ironic...
And there's my political input, of which I will never speak of again...mods...
*sighs in disgust*
We weren't thrown into any war. Bush most certainly jumped in, or did you forget WMD's? You know? The one's that weren't there. The one's that the U.N. knew weren't there, right before our cause changed to Iraqi freedom. If anybody cared about Iraqi freedom we would have freed them before September 11th gave us the excuse to invade and occupy this country. Our war was with the taliban, not Iraq. Iraq didn't do anything to constitute invasion, the rest of the world knows it, shame some in our country don't. Yes our enemies are from ally countries. Osama's own brother was having lunch with Bush Sr. in Washington D.C. when the planes hit the WTC. I think some people forget Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorists attacks on our country, had no money, and were no threat to us. Bush actually said God spoke to him and lead him on the path to war in Iraq. If you're from over there you are probably wondering why the U.S. has screwed them over for the past 15 years, and then abbandoned them. We could cure a lot of terrorism by fixing the Israel/Palestine conflict we took part in making worse. Nobody over there thinks we are trying to be rid of Islam. They'd have no reason to think that, I don't know where that came from.
There is a reason the rest of the world hates us. They have good reason to.
The Israel/Palenstine conflict isn't easy enough to fix by doing one thing. The entire Middle East hates Israel, first of all, because they have been puppets to just about every nation in recent history (Soviets, Germany, USA). In Islam, there are sections of people who feel that the whole world needs to be "cleansed" from the evil that the West presents. It isn't exact Christianity, but more of our lifestyle and our non-culture. To them, we are lustful, flakey, and only concerned about the well-being of ourselves. This, along with how they believe that the West is wrongfully influencing their neck of da woods, all contributes to the tension that has been existing for years now.
Yes, America has done some idiotic things in the past (fighting Saddam, and then letting him go, only to slaughter the people that we originally convinced to defy him), but what we are doing now is not based upon religion. Clinton wanted to do the same kind of thing when he was in office, and it had nothing to do with religion. Saddam is one of few people who has enough (bad) influence on the Middle East. One of the major things that the United States has been doing for years now, is preventing the region from turning into a hegemony, ruled by someone like Saddam.
And there are people over there who think that this is a holy war, even though so far anything that we've talked about is political; nothing religious. It'd be impossible to start a war over an individual, or indivdual's, beliefs of religion
* WOMD - Not found, but doesn't mean they never exsisted...
* Liberation to the people of Iraq - done
* Bringing a democratic influence, that isn't hated into the region (Israel) - done
There isnt a democratic government in Iraq. The U.S.A. is going to put in some guy as their puppet to lead Iraq. Posted by: Canadian_MC
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
[quote]Posted by: Bring the Noise
[quote]Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
[quote]Posted by: Bring the Noise
[quote]Posted by: ajenteks
and in the long run does nothing to solve the problems of the world, save that one less person is contributing to those problems.
Ahhh, then by this logic if everybody was buddhist then there would be no problem, as nobody would be adding problem.
Also, I can't remember any wars started in the name of Buddha. Unlike the christian god(see our ignorant president).
The war in Iraq wasn't started by Bush. It's from the jealousy and frustration of the "falling behind" yayyayayayayayayayayayayayayay more pyramids yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah