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Has anyone here ever light a firecracker and shove it over an ant mound? Does dirt go flying? Do the angry ants go after you? Does it light the grass on fire? I'm just curious.

  • 06.07.2004 6:44 PM PDT
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d) All of the above

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i should try that!

  • 06.07.2004 6:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: McSpaanky
i should try that!

I was gonna do the same thing, only maybe I should shove it down a rabbit hole instead.

Let's see how fast those rabbits can really go...

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I don't think that the explosion's likely to light grass up. Most of the energy release is concussive, so the little fart of heat gets spread enough to not burn much directly. Friction associated with stuff moved by the blast might mess something up, though.
I'm guessing that the ants would mostly be confused and trying to get things back in order.

As an aside, I think it takes a sad, sad person to find amusement in messing with helpless critters. In case that's not clear, I intend to be demeaning. I'm very glad there doesn't seem to be a race of beings much like humans hovering over us and doing something similar.

Edit: A mechanics error was repaired for clarity. Whoop.

[Edited on 6/7/2004 7:56:11 PM]

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....with that said I think we all agree that shoving firecrackers down rabbit holes is bad...



THROW EM IN AN OLD FOLKS HOME YEAH!!!!!

  • 06.07.2004 7:56 PM PDT
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We used to make Napalm and we put it in ant muonds lit it woosh

no i will not tell you how

and if you already know then try it

  • 06.07.2004 8:00 PM PDT
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please tell me....I'll give you VIRTUAL candy...

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if you tell me i will add the phrase "All Hail ca34786!" to my signature

  • 06.07.2004 8:02 PM PDT
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One word: MONEY

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I will find out online for free

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Did you mix cheap fuel with sticky syrupy crap? That's the formula I used for firey liquid. It's real great for getting rid of stuff you don't want around. Using it on living creatures is just wrong, though. I dunno how the hell you can do that you twisted pyro. That's meant to be demeaning, too. My demeanor is worsening.

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like glue?

  • 06.07.2004 8:17 PM PDT
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Anything gooey that won't slow the burn works. The purpose is just to keep the fire where it belongs.

  • 06.07.2004 8:29 PM PDT
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I don't belong to any organization such as PETA or anything. In fact I kill many animals during hunting season, only to cook the meat and mount the trophies, but...

YOU SICK SADOMISING SACKS OF CRAP! HOW CAN YOU BE SO CRUEL TO ANIMALS?!?!?! Now, it's not so bad to kill things in video games, because, I mean, It's only a video game, but how could you just kill an actual living creature in such a cruel way for amusent? You've got some SERIOUS problems, if you ask me, and any person with decent morals and values would agree. You guys got no class or humanity. You disgust me!

If you want to destroy something real, then buy a package of Peeps (the marshmallow easter candy) and light em up! :)

[Edited on 6/7/2004 9:46:02 PM]

  • 06.07.2004 9:45 PM PDT
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Hey which is better? An instant kill by the force of a firecracker or the death after you put several pellets of lead into a deer's body and hang it's head on the wall? And your saying I have bad morals?

[Edited on 6/7/2004 9:49:15 PM]

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One tim emy friend and I gug a 3 foot deep hole direcly next to and ant mound, stuffed it with as many fircackers as possible, buried it tightly with a single fuse coming out, lit it and ran. I almost died when the ground literally exploded, and artillery shell landed at my face (I was in fetil possition by now) and then a mound of angry flaming ants swarmed out of their former home. it was sweet.

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Posted by: agent404
Hey which is better? An instant kill by the force of a firecracker or the death after you put several pellets of lead into a deer's body and hang it's head on the wall? And your saying I have bad morals?


Only thing is, the ladder helps balance the ecosystem.

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once a friend of mine lit a cup of gassoline on fir thinking it would explode.... it didn't. it just burnt realy high. when my friend went to put it out ( because it was taking while to burn ) he sprayed it whith water (stupid) and he "somehow" cot his leg on fire. now he dosen't grow hair on like half of his leg. funny syuff i say.

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Posted by: Frag Master
I don't belong to any organization such as PETA or anything. In fact I kill many animals during hunting season, only to cook the meat and mount the trophies, but...

YOU SICK SADOMISING SACKS OF CRAP! HOW CAN YOU BE SO CRUEL TO ANIMALS?!?!?! Now, it's not so bad to kill things in video games, because, I mean, It's only a video game, but how could you just kill an actual living creature in such a cruel way for amusent? You've got some SERIOUS problems, if you ask me, and any person with decent morals and values would agree. You guys got no class or humanity. You disgust me!

If you want to destroy something real, then buy a package of Peeps (the marshmallow easter candy) and light em up! :)
Exactly!
...except for the peeps thing.
Posted by: agent404
Hey which is better? An instant kill by the force of a firecracker or the death after you put several pellets of lead into a deer's body and hang it's head on the wall? And your saying I have bad morals?
The two are a bit different to me than you let on. The deer is for food, while the ants aren't. Also, there's more ants involved. As for instant death, have you ever considered getting caught in a blast that almost kills you, or wounds mortally in a way that lets you die very slowly? I'm not real big on hunting deer, though, since I've got beef right here that's (supposedly) killed by a big pneumatic piston to the head or something similarly quick. Before someone tells me that hunting in moderation keeps the critters from overpopulating, I wanna say that we wouldn't have to if we didn't kill and displace every blamn natural predator remotely near our settlements. I know that you don't want them posing a threat to the humans living nearby, but I think we are imposing a lot on the native life by killing whatever happens to inconvenience us.
Posted by: forstngman
once a friend of mine lit a cup of gassoline on fir thinking it would explode.... it didn't. it just burnt realy high. when my friend went to put it out ( because it was taking while to burn ) he sprayed it whith water (stupid) and he "somehow" cot his leg on fire. now he dosen't grow hair on like half of his leg. funny syuff i say.
Lol. Some of my favourite human blunders are Darwin awards. I'm sure y'all have heard of those. I like the one for someone's catching his food by poisoning it.

Edit: The gasoline thing might have been worthy of a Darwin award if the human had ensured that he doesn't reproduce. I'm pretty sure that he knew that fire can be dangerous, and he decided to play with it without knowing what he was doing. It's people like that who don't study up and be prepared that're the reason I had to listen to lectures in school about fire safety and a whole bunch of other similar topics...

[Edited on 6/7/2004 10:32:35 PM]

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Posted by: forumrunner
Before someone tells me that hunting in moderation keeps the critters from overpopulating, I wanna say that we wouldn't have to if we didn't kill and displace every blamn natural predator remotely near our settlements. I know that you don't want them posing a threat to the humans living nearby, but I think we are imposing a lot on the native life by killing whatever happens to inconvenience us.



Wrong, deer have a natural predator. It's the Mountain Lion. I live in Iowa, tons of deer, no Mountain Lions. There hasn't ever been an abundant amount of Mountain lions in Iowa. Deer need shot. They eat crops, they run out in front of cars like the brainless beings that they are. Now the DNR is releasing Mountain Lions in the wild here and not telling anybody, of course farmers are getting pissed that their livestock, and pets are getting slaughtered by these Mountain Lions. We don't need more animals to hit with our cars, we need longer hunting seasons to shoot the deer.

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Posted by: forumrunner
Before someone tells me that hunting in moderation keeps the critters from overpopulating, I wanna say that we wouldn't have to if we didn't kill and displace every blamn natural predator remotely near our settlements. I know that you don't want them posing a threat to the humans living nearby, but I think we are imposing a lot on the native life by killing whatever happens to inconvenience us.



Wrong, deer have a natural predator. It's the Mountain Lion. I live in Iowa, tons of deer, no Mountain Lions. There hasn't ever been an abundant amount of Mountain lions in Iowa. Deer need shot. They eat crops, they run out in front of cars like the brainless beings that they are. Now the DNR is releasing Mountain Lions in the wild here and not telling anybody, of course farmers are getting pissed that their livestock, and pets are getting slaughtered by these Mountain Lions. We don't need more animals to hit with our cars, we need longer hunting seasons to shoot the deer.
That's exactly what I'm saying. We wouldn't need to fill the role of the missing pumas if we didn't make them be missing. (Aside: Where did you hear that predators are being released without people being made aware? I hope that's not legal.) Deer are eating our crops because we put the crops there. If we weren't so blamn prolific, we wouldn't be sprawled all over the place like we are. Some wildlife might be an inconvenience for us, but it was here a long time before our cars and crops were. Remember that we're killing and displacing what's in our way to make room for ourselves before you complain about it's trying to survive.

[Edited on 6/7/2004 11:24:31 PM]

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Posted by: forumrunner

That's exactly what I'm saying. We wouldn't need to fill the role of the missing pumas if we didn't make them be missing. (Aside: Where did you hear that predators are being released without people being made aware? I hope that's not legal.) Deer are eating our crops because we put the crops there. If we weren't so blamn prolific, we wouldn't be sprawled all over the place like we are. Some wildlife might be an inconvenience for us, but it was here a long time before our cars and crops were. Remember that we're killing and displacing what's in our way to make room for ourselves before you complain about it's trying to survive.


We didn't make them missing, I already said there was never an abundance of them in our state. Where did I hear it? You mean where did I see it? They have been hit by cars, caught on tape, left behind paw prints, and dead slaughtered animals. Yes deer eat our crops because we put them here, however those crops feed most of the world, and we get other important things like ethanol. So we can feed millions, or let deer eat it. You make the decision. We are not killing them to make room for ourselves, believe me in the farmland in the midwest there is plenty of room. Room is not the issue. There is a huge deer overpopulation problem here, one you know nothing about, as you don't live here. We are killing them because there are too many, and it is throwing the system out of wack. Such as deer share food with many other animals. Too many deer mean these animals starve to death. It's not just us we are concerned about. I don't know exactly where you live but you seem to not really be in the know about it.

[Edited on 6/8/2004 12:12:13 AM]

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That's right, I have no idea. I am totally isolated from the outside world and can't share information but by talking to people in person.

I still think you're supporting what I said. We're throwing balances "out of whack" with our interference. As you said, pumas are the natural predators there but no human's seen many. They roamed accross much of the territory we now inhabit, but haven't been seen for several generations. You said that there's a huge overpopulation problem where you live. Are you going to tell me that that's the natural state of things, the way things were before humans were there? As I understand it, predators usually move in when prey becomes too common. They can't move in where humans live, though, because a big wild cat gets captured or killed shortly after a human spots it. Meanwhile, prey animals are eating the huge concentrations of food they find in our farms and enjoying the lack of cats you described. Then, humans need to control population by hunting the critters themselves.

Why are you telling me that the crops are beneficial to us? Did I give the impression that I think otherwise?
To my knowledge, I didn't say that there's no room for them. I'm saying that we're displacing them to take some for ourselves to meet our growing needs. The room issue as I see it is that local biome's not used to us being here and it's interacting with everything we do near the edges of our territory. It's having trouble accomodating us because we're doing new things to disrupt balances wherever we are. The ecological balance around us took spans of time we can hardly comprehend, and we got to where we are from a non-obtrusive state in only a few generations!

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Posted by: forumrunner
That's right, I have no idea. I am totally isolated from the outside world and can't share information but by talking to people in person.

I still think you're supporting what I said. We're throwing balances "out of whack" with our interference. As you said, pumas are the natural predators there but no human's seen many. They roamed accross much of the territory we now inhabit, but haven't been seen for several generations. You said that there's a huge overpopulation problem where you live. Are you going to tell me that that's the natural state of things, the way things were before humans were there? As I understand it, predators usually move in when prey becomes too common. They can't move in where humans live, though, because a big wild cat gets captured or killed shortly after a human spots it. Meanwhile, prey animals are eating the huge concentrations of food they find in our farms and enjoying the lack of cats you described. Then, humans need to control population by hunting the critters themselves.

Why are you telling me that the crops are beneficial to us? Did I give the impression that I think otherwise?
To my knowledge, I didn't say that there's no room for them. I'm saying that we're displacing them to take some for ourselves to meet our growing needs. The room issue as I see it is that local biome's not used to us being here and it's interacting with everything we do near the edges of our territory. It's having trouble accomodating us because we're doing new things to disrupt balances wherever we are. The ecological balance around us took spans of time we can hardly comprehend, and we got to where we are from a non-obtrusive state in only a few generations!




Don't put words into my mouth, I don't appreciate it. I said you don't live here therefore do not know what goes on here from a day to day basis. First pumas, cougars, or whatever else you may want to call them got the name Mountain Lion for a reason. They prefer to stick to timbered areas in or near mountains. Last time I checked there are no mountains in Iowa. There is not a overpopulation of deer in areas with large populations of cougars, makes sense right? However there is not, nor has there ever been a large population of mountain lions in Iowa, and there never will be. This is not their region. Besides the fact that any animal will go for slow, easy prey before it will any prey that is fast and hard to catch. That is why Mountain Lions cannot live in this region, There are far too many livestock to kill, they will not chase deer when they can just eat whatever cow happens to be sitting around. The deer population in this state is, and always has been controlled by humans, well at least for the last several hundred years. To say that all of a sudden we've moved into their territory is naive. Humans have been here for a very, very long time. Hunting and killing deer. Sure you could make a case that wolves once hunted deer, but they did not leave because humans came in. The left because deer are faster, and a singe deer cannot feed a pack of wolves, they need bigger, slower prey. Now your arguement about humans catching or killing cougars is mute, because as I've said, the DNR is releasing them here, and it is against the law to kill them unless they endanger you. They actually try to leave the area, then the DNR have to chase them down and bring them back. It's not helping the deer population one bit, in fact the deer population continues to surge out of control in my region. The cougars either kill the livestock, or they leave. Once again so that it's clear with you this is not thier region, never has been, never will be. You also have to realize that humans are predators as well, always have been. We are not interfering in the ecosystem, we are part of it. Humans have been hunting deer here long before columbus found this little rock, if we don't continue to do so, then they become too abundant. You make it seem as though humans never had anything to do with this place untill white people settled here. Humans were involved in that ecological balance you speak of, unless of course Native Americans don't count, and humans are no longer animals as well. We are, and have been for hundreds of years the only predator of deer in this area.

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