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Subject: KILL ZONE - Better than Halo? Hahahaha lmao!
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I was watching "x-play" on G4 yesterday and the host (guy) was like "Kill Zone (for ps2) will be the halo killa". All I have to say is YA MY ARSS. I wont be imature and say ohh killzone sucks nuts cuzz its for the ps2 but seriously comon, the story sux, the ps2 sux, gameplay looks like any other fps, and plus ITS THE YEAR 2004, HALO came out 2002, if Sony wants to compete with games that are 2 years old then I think they fell behind somewhere...LIKE THE PS2's F ING HARDWARE!

Sorry for that violent stuff, I am just really mezmorized and pissed by x-plays statements and ps2's fanboys too.

  • 06.07.2004 8:20 PM PDT
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Nah, dont apologize, the sony PS2 should just stick to RPG'S like their Final Fantasy Series,which is sort of okay.But a FPS like Halo or Halo2 on the PS2 would eventually kill it by shoving too mush graphic requirements down its engine.So thats it.

  • 06.07.2004 8:29 PM PDT
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HALO 2 WILL CRUSH ALL OTHER GAMES UNDER ITS IRON HEEL OF COOL STUFF

[Edited on 6/7/2004 8:58:59 PM]

  • 06.07.2004 8:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rolamee
HALO 2 WILL CRUSH ALL OTHER GAMES UNDER ITS IRIN HEEL OF COOL STUFF

[color=green]ALL HAIL!! ALL HAIL!! ALL HAIL!![/color]

  • 06.07.2004 9:14 PM PDT
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I've seen in-game footage of Killzone, about 2-3 minutes of it... and it's so crappy, I don't even want to go into detail about it... and that is a serious, unbiased statement....

  • 06.07.2004 10:14 PM PDT
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"Nah, dont apologize, the sony PS2 should just stick to RPG'S like their Final Fantasy Series,which is sort of okay."

... even though Final Fantasy games aren't RPG's.

But anyway, when you launched this huge flame, did you actually think any PS2 fanboys were listening? Or that they'd care? In the least, go post it on a relevant kill-zone forum instead of wasting space here.

  • 06.08.2004 2:58 AM PDT
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Its like how the Webmaster put it, you can't put a Quart into a Pint....or in the PS2 and Halo2s comparison, its like trying to put the Pacific Ocean into a teaspoon :P The hardware on a XBox is being pushed to its max to run Halo2, and in its weakest benchmark area an XBox is 15x that of a PS2 in a same test (thats its weakest areas haha).

As for Kill Zone....*yawn* seen it all before. It'll sell to the kiddy winks but it has no story, no innovation, no nothing. Only people who will get it are those who get the pirated copy (who should all be taken out and introduced to an airlock *flush*) and it'll be played by the sub 10 year old gun nuts. Anyone older than that won't touch it with a 100m barge pole as they'll be playing something on a PC, or looking for something with content.

  • 06.08.2004 8:42 AM PDT
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XPlay is hosted by two retards. Those two dont like anything Xbox. On there E3 special (awards show) they breifly mentioned Halo 2 and didnt give it an award. The best in show went to Resident Evil (what ever number theyre at now). They only talk about RPG's and little kid games. They refuse to talk about anything Halo calibur because they arent good enough. Dont listen to XPlay, only watch it to see previews for up comming games.

  • 06.08.2004 8:48 AM PDT
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Hey Nyadach, look at my signature...sweet! Also, highlight it for the inviso font.

  • 06.08.2004 8:50 AM PDT
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I believe that the PS2 is way over-rated. Halo or Halo2 will beat any of its games any day

  • 06.08.2004 9:16 AM PDT
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Hey Nyadach, look at my signature...sweet! Also, highlight it for the inviso font.


I don't use a Sig as if your this close to me your gonna die.

  • 06.08.2004 12:11 PM PDT

Well, considering you haven't played Kill Zone, you can't really say that it isn't a Halo beater.

  • 06.08.2004 12:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Assassin B
XPlay is hosted by two retards. Those two dont like anything Xbox. On there E3 special (awards show) they breifly mentioned Halo 2 and didnt give it an award. The best in show went to Resident Evil (what ever number theyre at now). They only talk about RPG's and little kid games. They refuse to talk about anything Halo calibur because they arent good enough. Dont listen to XPlay, only watch it to see previews for up comming games.


X-Play is actually a really good show, but they need to appeal to everyone, not just us Halo fanboys...
And actually, X-Play is the only good gaming show out there, G4 has nothing that can truely compare with it...
Also, RE4 looks to be a Halo calibur game, I already want to play it and I don't even have a Gamecube...
Not all their reviews are agreeable, but it would suck if everyone in the world was the same...
And, tell me, were you even at E3, how do you truely know if there was much good there...
And lastly, Halo 2 didn't qualify for Best in Show because it was behind closed doors, not even open to everyone who managed to make it to E3....

Don't judge something as bad simply because it doesn't have the word Halo posted all over it...

  • 06.08.2004 12:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deja Vu
I was watching "x-play" on G4 yesterday and the host (guy) was like "Kill Zone (for ps2) will be the halo killa". All I have to say is YA MY ARSS. I wont be imature and say ohh killzone sucks nuts cuzz its for the ps2 but seriously comon, the story sux, the ps2 sux, gameplay looks like any other fps, and plus ITS THE YEAR 2004, HALO came out 2002, if Sony wants to compete with games that are 2 years old then I think they fell behind somewhere...LIKE THE PS2's F ING HARDWARE!

Sorry for that violent stuff, I am just really mezmorized and pissed by x-plays statements and ps2's fanboys too.



Another rant,

Think about it, how long does it make to create a game, Kill Zone was probably in developement before Halo came out...
And also, Kill Zone is said to have X-Box quality graphics in the PS2, it could be a good game, it might not be...
Not all of the best games are on X-Box, there are tons of games for PS2 and Gamecube that I would love to play, Kill Zone being one of them...

I'm not saying I'm disloyal to X-Box, I am saying that if you think Halo is the be all end all of FPS's, you are dead wrong, it may always be the greatest for some, but to others, it is just another game...

  • 06.08.2004 12:55 PM PDT

Kill Zone is said to have X-Box quality graphics in the PS2
It doesn't - pure over-exaggeration.

  • 06.08.2004 12:57 PM PDT
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Think about how the MC is being built in Halo 2, it is possible...

I wouldn't know, but I don't immediately judge something until I experience it...

[Edited on 6/8/2004 1:01:23 PM]

  • 06.08.2004 1:00 PM PDT

It isn't - I've seen the video. And it really isn't possible - the Xbox is capable of far more graphically than the PS2.

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Technology has evolved, they might be able to do more with less, I'm not saying it does, I'm saying I don't know, but it could...

  • 06.08.2004 1:04 PM PDT
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Oh, and aren't we past the time where graphics make the game...

  • 06.08.2004 1:05 PM PDT
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Well I am just saying that if anybody wants to call Kill Zone "the halo killa" maybe they should consider the fact that it came out 2002 and that this is the year 2004 and comparing kill zone to halo is ridiculous. Plus the ps2 cant handle half as many polygons and high-res textures as the xbox. Also I have yet to see any game out for the ps2 that uses bump-maping difuse-mapping and anything like that. Plus Kill Zone can be a halo killer, halo 1 at least but the thing is when kill zone comes out so will halo 2 and it will leave kill zone and all the other games in the dust (exept maybe Doom III, Half-Life 2 and some more).

  • 06.08.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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"*sigh*, a-gain with the klingons"
I just thought that quote would fit this thread perfectly.

[Edited on 6/8/2004 1:33:22 PM]

  • 06.08.2004 1:31 PM PDT
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im a megga ps2 fan and i admit it was under powerd ond they dealy droped the ball by not puting a hard drive and modem on it but the final fantasy games rock so does gran turismo, and lets not forget the best game in the world ever (hold on to you'r hats now) grand theft auto: vice city, so lets not slag of the ps2 when the xbox has not done anything special and if it has done its out on the ps2 a few weeks later anyway (see splinter cell)

ps halo ROCKS!

  • 06.08.2004 2:33 PM PDT

Technology has evolved, they might be able to do more with less, I'm not saying it does, I'm saying I don't know, but it could...
It couldn't - that's the point.
Oh, and aren't we past the time where graphics make the game...
Graphics are important for the overall immersive experience.

[Edited on 6/8/2004 2:52:10 PM]

  • 06.08.2004 2:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vel
Technology has evolved, they might be able to do more with less, I'm not saying it does, I'm saying I don't know, but it could...


Its about technology, and the PS2 hasn't got it where it counts in hardware, you can do so much in software but only as much as you can use with the hardware at you're disposal. Look at a GPU. The PS2 has severe problems handling textures, namely as it only has 32MB of texture memory to a XB with 64MB, but the XB is also caching them more efficiently due to being able to pull them quickly off a hard disk, not fumbling around on a slow optical drive.

An XB under its skin is a P3 (modified Taulatin) 733MHz dedicated for one thing, general processing and handling the AI (that obiliterates a PS2's CPU). Its also got a dedicated Dolby decoder for sound processing (256 channel sound compared to a PS2's 48), a PS2 has to take time from the CPU to get it to handle sound. But, the biggest thing is that it has a modifed nVidia GF3 Ti500, modified as it is able to run most of the feature set from a GF4....all stuck on a nForce motherboard, running a modified version of Windows2000 kernal. Yes a XB under that black case is a PC, and no one in there right mind would ever even attempt to claim a PC doesnt bury a PS2 in capability or performance.

Posted by: welshwizard
im a megga ps2 fan and i admit it was under powerd ond they dealy droped the ball by not puting a hard drive and modem on it but the final fantasy games rock so does gran turismo, and lets not forget the best game in the world ever (hold on to you'r hats now) grand theft auto: vice city, so lets not slag of the ps2 when the xbox has not done anything special and if it has done its out on the ps2 a few weeks later anyway (see splinter cell)


But as Welsh says, its about games. Its always about games. Hardware helps massively, but games make the machines. Look at GTA, Sony hatched up a deal to get that on the PS2 first, soon as the contract ended the PC and XB got it, nothing innovative, just company incentives. Its nothing about deving it, its down to Sony stopping it coming to XB. Look at Microprose (*sniffle* RIP), and GP4, 2 weeks before release on the XB, Sony buy the company, and sack all the staff. Code vanishes off to some "new" Sony racing game and no one ever see's this great racer on the XB. Now, Sonys little incentives are over, lets look at the next game in the GTA series..ohh, PC first (no surprise) followed by...all consoles together....and which one looks, and sounds the best? yep....XBox.

Ok, with Splinter Cell the XB got it first, no doubt due to some nice incentives. But look at the differances in the game from XB to PS2...ewww the PS2 one is vile. It can't handle shadows well at all. Even PS2 die hards are moaning over how bad Pandora Tomorrow was on it. And as for SC3, they aint even going to bother with a PS2 version as it wouldnt come close to being able to handle the graphics...heck its pushing the XB to the limits.

I'll give Sony one thing though, Gran Tourismo, its a great game...technically not as advanced at PGR but its does have a fantastic feel too it. Looking at things to come though, the XB is getting Doom3...the PS2 gets? urmm...nope can't run that :P

I could go on for days on a rant of why Kill Zone will never, ever look anything like Halo2...heck its running on hardware which can't even graphically match Halo1!!! Anyhow, this all goes back to some minor older fights from when the PS2 wasn't even out....but putting it in brief, you can't put a pint into a teaspoon...it just wont fit. Just like the elements of cutting edge new games, won't fit on a PS2.

  • 06.08.2004 3:36 PM PDT
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if you look at the video there's no doubt that they squeezed every speck of ram and available processor out of the ps2. for that they did get a very nice looking game. BUT there are the little things like when gernades explode in the game its the same quick flash explosion thats also very flat. and rag doll effects for when they die...no. same old flop over. this is best seen here on the second gameplay footage http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/killzone/media.html . also when the gun fires its the SAME EXACT GUN FLASH coming out of the gun every single shot. absoloutly no variation. an "A" for effort on ps2 but for the actual game ist a "B-" for me personaly. i could go on and on about how there arnt any inovations in the game like halo had with the shield/health system but that would take even more of my precious time finding out things about HALO 2.

[Edited on 6/8/2004 3:59:07 PM]

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