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Subject: plasma swords Vs hunter shields

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hunter shields are indestructible, but will a plasma sword be able to go through one??
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  • 06.08.2004 4:47 AM PDT
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As far as I know a Plasma Sword is powerful enough to destroy a Hunter's shield. And I believed they said near-invincibile. I could be wrong though, I'm too lazy to check the manual...

  • 06.08.2004 4:50 AM PDT

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yeah thats right, near indestructible, still even the plasma sword would have to take a few good swings to get through that massive shield though right?

  • 06.08.2004 4:58 AM PDT
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probably not. if you do the strong lunge attack i think everything will be a one hit KO even hunters

  • 06.08.2004 5:01 AM PDT

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hmm i guess so. the hunters better be quicker this time, they're my favourite enemy, maybe some new melee attacks would make me less keen to get in there with a sword.

can you imagine a hunter with energy shielding?? scarey.

  • 06.08.2004 5:04 AM PDT
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hunter with energy shielding would rock, would stop the small 1 hit kill problem, sorta... and would make them more formidable...

  • 06.08.2004 5:09 AM PDT
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well - bungie, being well educated people, would understand that plasma is superheated-gas, so hot infact that it would burn through the hunters shield like it was tissue paper.

If the Convenant assult ships can fire plasma weapons that eat through 2 metres of titanium A armour, then I'd say the plasma sword would do the same.....

UNLESS........the hunters shields are specially engineered to be able to withstand ultra high temperatures as well.....

of course the plasma sword would more or less cook anyone using it, as the ambient temperature around it would be in the 10's of thousands of degrees.

  • 06.08.2004 5:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: The MasterChief8
well - bungie, being well educated people, would understand that plasma is superheated-gas, so hot infact that it would burn through the hunters shield like it was tissue paper.

If the Convenant assult ships can fire plasma weapons that eat through 2 metres of titanium A armour, then I'd say the plasma sword would do the same.....

UNLESS........the hunters shields are specially engineered to be able to withstand ultra high temperatures as well.....

of course the plasma sword would more or less cook anyone using it, as the ambient temperature around it would be in the 10's of thousands of degrees.



you make perfect sense to me and further emphasizes my point, only making it more logical. but i think energy swords will be very hard to get ahold of in campaign so this won't often happen.

  • 06.08.2004 5:12 AM PDT
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It makes perfect sense to me. Good job for clearing that up.

  • 06.08.2004 5:15 AM PDT
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THIS BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING QUESTION, BECAUS THE ENERGY SWORD IS SO STRONG, WILL THEY PUT IT IN SP???
IT WOULD BE COOL, BUT STARTING WITH IT WOULD MAKE THE GAME SO EASY!!!
JUST KICKING THOSE COVIE ASS FORCES WITH A ENERGY SWORD!

  • 06.08.2004 5:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reclaimer NL
THIS BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING QUESTION, BECAUS THE ENERGY SWORD IS SO STRONG, WILL THEY PUT IT IN SP???
IT WOULD BE COOL, BUT STARTING WITH IT WOULD MAKE THE GAME SO EASY!!!
JUST KICKING THOSE COVIE ASS FORCES WITH A ENERGY SWORD!


other elites will have energy swords too (as black ones now use it as well as gold who knows how many elites have them in sp) don't forget there will be loads of enemies so it won't be as easy as it sounds even with the sword in your possesion

[Edited on 6/8/2004 5:50:18 AM]

  • 06.08.2004 5:50 AM PDT

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yeah i dont think the sword will be as unstoppable as everyone seems to think. i think it will kick ass, but in legendary you're gonna get clobbered with a sword.

i will use it but i am much more interested in the BR and dual needlers.

and i'm much much more interested in hearing about hunters...

  • 06.08.2004 7:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
yeah i dont think the sword will be as unstoppable as everyone seems to think. i think it will kick ass, but in legendary you're gonna get clobbered with a sword.

i will use it but i am much more interested in the BR and dual needlers.

and i'm much much more interested in hearing about hunters...


hmmmmm, how big will the explosion full dual needlers be? :D

  • 06.08.2004 7:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: The MasterChief8
of course the plasma sword would more or less cook anyone using it, as the ambient temperature around it would be in the 10's of thousands of degress.


I think the plasma in the sword is wrapped in Covenant energy shielding. That's why it only harms the people it comes in direct contact with. And yes, since I know how hot plasma is, when I first played Halo I assumed the plasma rifle would be the ultimate weapon... boy, was I wrong.

  • 06.08.2004 7:28 AM PDT
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Reclaimer NL, first you make a pointless thread on how big his **** is and now you come here with caps on.
Anyways if a plasma sword can cut through master chief's armour (with a shield) then I'm pretty sure it can cut through a hunter's shield depending on how strong of a swipe the person gives it.

  • 06.08.2004 7:31 AM PDT
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makes sense, after all it is the anti son of a -blam!- stick, which means it must be good

  • 06.08.2004 7:34 AM PDT
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Although, if you're going to be close enough to try and slice and dice the shield with the energy sword, you're also in the prime location to end up getting the aforementioned shield being used to remove you're head.

  • 06.08.2004 7:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: The MasterChief8
UNLESS........the hunters shields are specially engineered to be able to withstand ultra high temperatures as well.....

of course the plasma sword would more or less cook anyone using it, as the ambient temperature around it would be in the 10's of thousands of degrees.


Firstly, Plasma may or may not be an "superheated gas". That is one type of plasma. Plasma is a hyper-energized form of matter that has different properties based on numerous factors. One scientist created a plasma that was cool to the touch and reported that it had a pleasant tickling sensation when he ran his hand through it.

Secondly, Plasma torches exist today and are used in machine shops. They're also as hot as the sun's surface itself and if a machinist doesn't get "cooked", why should the covenant or the Master Chief?

Finally, I really don't think the Hunter's shields should be penetrated by the Plasma sword. The Hunter's shield is supposed to be made out of a a special alloy and looks to be about three inches thick, if not more. Perhaps if the Chief could get the shield up on a workbench for a while he could cut it in half but no in the midst of combat.

  • 06.08.2004 7:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: DraerdenFirstly, Plasma may or may not be an "superheated gas". That is one type of plasma. Plasma is a hyper-energized form of matter that has different properties based on numerous factors. One scientist created a plasma that was cool to the touch and reported that it had a pleasant tickling sensation when he ran his hand through it.

hmmm i didnt know that, i just thought it was superheated gas, not just a different form of matter

  • 06.08.2004 8:35 AM PDT
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The blade can go through the shield of a Hunter. I have made a Gold Elite kill a Hunter before with its blade just to see it happen. It is possible.

  • 06.08.2004 8:37 AM PDT
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Although, if you're going to be close enough to try and slice and dice the shield with the energy sword, you're also in the prime location to end up getting the aforementioned shield being used to remove you're head.

which makes it all fair, super. no need to argue that the swords to powerful now

  • 06.08.2004 8:39 AM PDT
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Another thing you might consider, if the plasma in halo is only superheated gas, couldn't all the heat be contained in a magnetic field generated by the plasmasword? I don't know much about the physics behind it all, but it seems that it would be possible to keep all the energized particles from colliding with outside particles (the collision would cause an increase in the outside particles kinetic energy and therefore an increase of heat) with a very strong magnetic force shaped into blade-form. If the particles were held within the plasmasword at all times, the air surrounding it would be the normal temperature. Of course, that would all change as soon as the plasma sword touched anything.

As for the main question, I don't think plasma swords should penetrate the hunters large shield on a single quick swing, but a hunter should definitely be toast (no pun intended) if you strike him anywhere besides the large sheild.

Plasma in general should do more damage, in my opinion. At least it should in single player. Super-hot substance that burns through practically anything shouldn't take so long to kill something. Really, you're burning a hole THROUGH an enemy when you're using a plasma rifle, so why should it take so many shots to kill somebody with it?

[Edited on 6/8/2004 8:59:24 AM]

  • 06.08.2004 8:57 AM PDT
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Um it does more damage. Trust me on that.

Here is an example using the Elites. (where it says # - #, the first implies that a head shot was made.)

Any Blue Elite

MA5B: 50
M6D: 10 - 13
S2 AM: 1 - 2
M90: 1 - 8
M19 SSM: 1
Plasma Pistol: 12
Plasma Rifle: 14

Any Red Elite

MA5B: 60
M6D: 17 - 20
S2 AM: 2 - 3
M90: 2 - 10
M19 SSM: 1 - 2
Plasma Pistol: 16
Plasma Rifle: 16

Now certain bullets do more damage, yes, but overall Plasma does more damage.

[Edited on 6/8/2004 9:05:49 AM]

  • 06.08.2004 9:04 AM PDT
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using your knowledge there what do you think the sword will be?

  • 06.08.2004 9:06 AM PDT
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hikaru i thought u played halo between 9 and 2

  • 06.08.2004 9:07 AM PDT

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