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I lied. Now buzz off and get back on topic.

  • 06.08.2004 9:08 AM PDT

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i read something about the nature of the hunters commitment to the covenant. the covenant could not beat them on the ground so instead bombed the crap out of them until they surrendered.

see, i'm not too into the storyline of halo but if this just seems to suggest that elites with swords and hunters have battled and lost to them.

cant think anymore.

  • 06.08.2004 9:09 AM PDT
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if the plasma in the swords were something different than superheated gas then y do the marines say it burns when they r hit by it?

  • 06.08.2004 9:11 AM PDT
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maybe there wern't enough plasma swords to go around? plus space bombardments easier for the elites

  • 06.08.2004 9:11 AM PDT
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well i think that its posiblle for the plasma sword to go through a hunters shield but i think an elite would have to saw through it.

  • 06.08.2004 9:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
i read something about the nature of the hunters commitment to the covenant. the covenant could not beat them on the ground so instead bombed the crap out of them until they surrendered.

see, i'm not too into the storyline of halo but if this just seems to suggest that elites with swords and hunters have battled and lost to them.

cant think anymore.


Where the heck did you read that? Sounds more like a fan fiction than anything official. Now I know I have not seen that from Bungie anywhere. If you could, try to drum up the source you found that from.

  • 06.08.2004 9:13 AM PDT
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if the plasma in the swords were something different than superheated gas then y do the marines say it burns when they r hit by it?

if a marine gets hit by the energy sword they die instantly, there are no survivors (except in first strike but i'm talking game wise)

  • 06.08.2004 9:13 AM PDT
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They don't say it burns when they are hit by it. They die.

Posted by: bentfishy
if the plasma in the swords were something different than superheated gas then y do the marines say it burns when they r hit by it?

  • 06.08.2004 9:13 AM PDT
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Where the heck did you read that? Sounds more like a fan fiction than anything official. Now I know I have not seen that from Bungie anywhere. If you could, try to drum up the source you found that from.

not to put you down hikaru but it is said in the OFFICIAL halo strategy guide of how the hunters were enslaved. the guide is made official by bungie, heck thats where the tidbits of history in the book come from. it also talks of grunts plea for freedom wanting a great hero to lead them to freedom on a methane rich paradise world

[Edited on 6/8/2004 9:16:07 AM]

  • 06.08.2004 9:15 AM PDT

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yeah thats right. i read the bit about hunters posted by Danarchy, quite interesting, i cant believe the hunters were enslaved. it seems insane and now it almost makes me feel sorry for them. i'd like to see an uprising of hunters and grunts vs.

  • 06.08.2004 9:18 AM PDT
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Hmm....Never read that. Maybe it is because I never bothered opening up my strategy guide. Those things are always so off on stuff. At least from the ones that I have read in the past. Oh well.

  • 06.08.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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ye but it didn't say how long ago that was. if all the hunter ancestors who we're conquered have died out there would be less rebellion as it is now a way of life being with the covenant empire and they don't know of freedom

  • 06.08.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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I wasn't saying plasma doesn't do as much damage as bullets (although, using almost as many shots with a human pistol as you do with a plasma rifle is totally ridiculous). I was saying that plasma should be more powerful in general considering it's leaving gaping holes in everything it hits.

I know you love to cite your little damage charts, Hikaru, but think about it a sec. Most (or at least half, I forget exactly) of those plasma hits were made after the shields were broken. If you hit an elite in the neck with a bolt of plasma that can burn a nice sized hole into the walls of the PoA, then there is no reason his head should remain on his neck after it has its own searing hole burned through it. It just doesn't make sense to have to use over 3 hits on skin or armor directly to kill something. Now I know Covenant armor could be super-resistant to plasma, but much of their body is exposed. Hitting them on bare skin should burn off whatever you just struck.
That aside, in multiplayer it takes about 4 shots to penetrate an enemy's shields and another 12 I think to finish him off with the plasma rifle. That just seems completely backwards. If he's getting hit with plasma holes are being burned through his armor and into his skin. Getting hit in the face would be instantly fatal. Now, I can understand them not making it realistic in multiplayer for balance reasons, but they've no excuse in singleplayer

I guess Bungie just doesn't like to think logically with their damage system.

  • 06.08.2004 9:25 AM PDT

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yeah thats true.

but anyways back to the thread. for now. i'd like to see that hunter shield take a fair few hits from the sword, it'd be ridiculous if the sword just went straight through it. i mean its massive, its near indestructible.

  • 06.08.2004 9:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: ace 7 7 7
Reclaimer NL, first you make a pointless thread on how big his **** is and now you come here with caps on.
Anyways if a plasma sword can cut through master chief's armour (with a shield) then I'm pretty sure it can cut through a hunter's shield depending on how strong of a swipe the person gives it.


I just wanted to make my point clear :D
And about that thread i was just making a joke with a friend of mine, dont worry about it, sometimes its nice to have some fun, you should try it!

  • 06.08.2004 10:01 AM PDT
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you know what i think bungie did? i think they gave the plasma sword to ALL of the elites, but they would only use their swords as a last resort, remeber when you wound a elite to almost no health he goes berserk? well i think it would be cool if they dropped thir guns and pulled out their swords while they scream...then attack. i think it would be nice. that way we can get the sword only if we get an elite to that point.
they should still have the gold elites with swords, they are kick ass.

  • 06.08.2004 10:02 AM PDT
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with the look of the demo the black elites favor their sword as a primary weapon and at an educated guess i'd say the gold elites are likewise, with halo 1 and all. if elites has a secondary weapon i think it'd be the plasma pistol rather than a sword like it states in 'the flood'. furthermore it seems only the higher ranked elites have swords, if even the lowly blue ones had them it'd be chaos don't you think?

  • 06.08.2004 10:05 AM PDT
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ok maybe not ALL of them maybe a few rare red ones, the invisible {few}, definitely gold and black

  • 06.08.2004 10:07 AM PDT
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i still think it would be awesome to see a pissed elite drop his guns pull out his sword, scream and then lunge at you.

  • 06.08.2004 10:08 AM PDT
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thats better, which is almost how it is in halo 1 anyway, funny how it works out

  • 06.08.2004 10:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: BerserkHawk
i still think it would be awesome to see a pissed elite drop his guns pull out his sword, scream and then lunge at you.


you forgot one part, the part that they lunge at you but you shoot him threw the head with some duel wielding action of the smg's and you take his energy sword as secondary weapon

  • 06.08.2004 10:28 AM PDT
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We shouldnt argue over a metal that we have no knowledge of and its properties it my 3X stronger than plasma sword for all we know

  • 06.08.2004 1:20 PM PDT

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