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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 11/30/07

For those of you who keep saying that because Bungie broke away form Microsoft they should have full pricing control of the DLC, you need to understand that although Microsoft does not own Bungie anymore it does own the IP for Halo because Bungie was still a part of Microsoft when they made Halo: CE.

  • 12.01.2007 10:27 AM PDT

$50,000,000,000 REWARD!!!

Santa Claus must be stopped! He is a menace who is not only guilty of billions of counts of breaking in entering, but also runs an illegal sweatshop of midgets forced to work for no pay using stolen materials to make gifts that infringe on every company and manufacturer around the globe, causing world wide economic disasters. He is to be taken dead or alive!

DLC maps FTW! Its like a Christmas present. Except you have to pay

  • 12.01.2007 10:32 AM PDT

Posted by: Pyode Amedha
For those of you who keep saying that because Bungie broke away form Microsoft they should have full pricing control of the DLC, you need to understand that although Microsoft does not own Bungie anymore it does own the IP for Halo because Bungie was still a part of Microsoft when they made Halo: CE.


New content created outside the umbrella of MS should be sole property of Bungie, Not Microsoft. The new maps are being released December 11th, therefore, they should be property of Bungie and they should set the price. They state in the update they are not responsible for the prices. That doesn't compute.

  • 12.01.2007 10:34 AM PDT

I love to see Bungie completely land a bow on all those "Too expensive!" or "Melee sucks!" or any other complaint you can think of.


Bungie = best company of all time. Out of all the companies that I've ever heard of, game-related or not, Bungie kills 'em all.

  • 12.01.2007 10:49 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: sigmapi103
I quote this from their update "we didn't set the price" and "We ain't accountants". Your seperated from Microsoft, yet you claim you don't set the price, and furthermore it goes on saying you (Bungie) can't figure out how much it costs to put together 3 maps? Seriously, what are you Enron? I can't even believe you would make such statements. How about answering the following question: Who set the price for the new DLC? MS? MS Game studios? And who is doing your payroll if you "ain't accountants"? You "ain't" telling the truth either.

Reposted from a locked thread designated as a "repeat". I am not complaining about the price, rather, the inconsistency of the statements made within the update. And no, Xbox Live's TOS does NOT state they set the prices for DLC or as they term it "premium content".

They don't choose the price. Have you ever been to different supermarkets? The same exact product can cost a different price, right? Basically, it's the seller who decides the price, not the maker. Bungie will decide the price that Microsoft must pay to sell them. The maps are sold through Xbox LIVE Marketplace, not a Bungie-regulated store. Microsoft decides it, not Bungie.

[Edited on 12.01.2007 11:07 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2007 11:05 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: sigmapi103
Posted by: Pyode Amedha
For those of you who keep saying that because Bungie broke away form Microsoft they should have full pricing control of the DLC, you need to understand that although Microsoft does not own Bungie anymore it does own the IP for Halo because Bungie was still a part of Microsoft when they made Halo: CE.


New content created outside the umbrella of MS should be sole property of Bungie, Not Microsoft. The new maps are being released December 11th, therefore, they should be property of Bungie and they should set the price. They state in the update they are not responsible for the prices. That doesn't compute.

Does Kellogg's regulate the price that their products are sold at in every grocery store across the nation? No. They regulate the price at which it is sold to the seller, and then it is ultimately up to them what citizens will purchase the item at. Do research on the corporate world before making comments like that.

  • 12.01.2007 11:10 AM PDT

nice

  • 12.01.2007 11:31 AM PDT
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what i fail to understand is why the machinima easter egg can only be done on local. if it's a friends only playlist of custom games or something of that nature, why can't we use the technology that Bungie has so readily given to us to create a new machinima.

this can only be time for sinister CONSPIRACY THEORY OF THE DAY!
Bungie had purposefully left out the easter egg to protect the high tech demands of creating a machinima. if the graphics capture cards could be eliminated from the equation, a flood of easy to produce machinima can be dropped on the streets and put people like Rooster Teeth out of the competition

*ahem* sorry, that slipped. while none of this is necessarily true, the easter egg should be expanded to custom games at least. what's the worst that could happen?

  • 12.01.2007 11:54 AM PDT
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Machinima got Machiniripped

  • 12.01.2007 12:04 PM PDT

$50,000,000,000 REWARD!!!

Santa Claus must be stopped! He is a menace who is not only guilty of billions of counts of breaking in entering, but also runs an illegal sweatshop of midgets forced to work for no pay using stolen materials to make gifts that infringe on every company and manufacturer around the globe, causing world wide economic disasters. He is to be taken dead or alive!

How did I know this would turn into a debate? Luckily WhiffleBallTony seems to have won the arguement. Basically, Bungie does not directly sell us the maps, so they do not decide to price.

  • 12.01.2007 12:07 PM PDT
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yo bungie i found this spot on sandtrap where i can see what my guest is doing. i tried it without my guest but it doesnt work. it basically shows me what me guests screen looks like without looking at his screen. message me anyone if you want to know where this spot is . my name on box live is Spiderbeer. its like a crack in the game. you look through the crack and this only works if you have a guest, you see what ur guest is doing . it cool

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  • 12.01.2007 12:33 PM PDT
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http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/critical-h its/1173417

yahoo.com just had on their homepage the "Top 10 rated video games" and guess what bungie. Halo 3 didn't even make the list. Gears of War did though. Remember back when the game was released, there were hundreds of thousands sometimes even over a million players playing Halo 3? Every month that number will most likely go down. All my friends on Live were playing Halo 3, now its CoD4, Guitar Hero, GoW, Assassins Creed, and sometimes even Halo 2. I don't know how you guys at Bungie and most of the people here can play Halo 3 and see a big improvement from Halo 2. I know there was a lot of pressure to make Halo 3 better then Halo 2, but I honestly think you failed (at this point). I was a huge fan of both halo's. And I waited in line for hours for halo 3 at release. I drank Mountain Dew to keep me awake and pumped hours into that game, I wanted that game to be awesome. Now...I want this game to flop. I'm glad it didn't make the top 10. I'm glad the number of people is getting lower.

call me when this game gets good...


I wont be surprised if you blacklist me AGAIN...

[Edited on 12.01.2007 1:16 PM PST]

  • 12.01.2007 1:14 PM PDT
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I think I discovered the solution to the melee problem and other complaints without having to apply any updates. Some of my friends tested this with me the other night and it seems to make everything flow much better. In fact it has a very similar feel to it that Halo 2 had. Basically for the last little while we have been trying to put our finger on what it is that just doesn't feel right about Halo 3. We all decided to jump into some Halo 2. None of us had played any Halo 2 since the Halo 3 launch. What we immediately noticed is that Halo 2 plays at a more frantic pace. That might sound bad to anyone who has only played Halo 3 but it really is the way this game is meant to be played. In fact, if you set the player movement speed to 125% it feels like Halo 2. Even the melee feels like it is a more skilled move and no longer FEELS like it is a dice roll. In fact, I was doing jumping, 180 degree turn beat downs like I would in halo 2. Something I found to be missing from Halo 3. Not only that, I found that it is easier to evade nades and sniper fire. Again, this might sound like it makes the game harder...but that's because it means there is more strategy. I finally realized that the speed has been throttled back but the weapons still fire and nades still toss and explode at the same speed. I don't know if this is intentional for reasons of engine performance or if it is to make the game more accessible to less skilled players, but I think there needs to be a playlist that plays at 125% for the Halo 2 long time fans. I hope it wasn't slowed down for the accessibility reason as this seems to be the growing trend in video games. Anyways, that's my two cents. The only warning I give you is that if you play a few matches at 125% its going to feel like you are walking through molasses when you put it back. If anyone wants to see what I mean about the Halo 3 vs Halo 2 speed. Play a Halo 3 match, then pop in your Halo 2 and play one there. Halo 2 just feels right, and Halo 3 can as well if Bungie takes my advice. Halo 3 has huge potential, but there are a few issues that need to be resolved to make it have the lasting appeal of Halo 2.

Cheers!

Daggart

  • 12.01.2007 1:15 PM PDT
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I agree with you Daggart...

complaining about Halo 3? Well then, play Halo 2! (its better)

  • 12.01.2007 1:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: sigmapi103
Posted by: Pyode Amedha
For those of you who keep saying that because Bungie broke away form Microsoft they should have full pricing control of the DLC, you need to understand that although Microsoft does not own Bungie anymore it does own the IP for Halo because Bungie was still a part of Microsoft when they made Halo: CE.


New content created outside the umbrella of MS should be sole property of Bungie, Not Microsoft. The new maps are being released December 11th, therefore, they should be property of Bungie and they should set the price. They state in the update they are not responsible for the prices. That doesn't compute.


distribution is through xbox live market place. that means they controll everything. if bungi had sole control over price they would have to distribute it as a disc sold in stores and stay away from xbox marketplace altogether. that would be more money for physical replications and the maps would be released in larger chunkc, further apart from each other.

  • 12.01.2007 1:34 PM PDT

Athletes row everyone else just plays games.

i totally agree with you fix the tripmine it should at least be able to kill a person if they step on it not just take down there shields

  • 12.01.2007 2:03 PM PDT

Bull S**t!

Lukems posted at the SAME TIME as Frankie!

That means that Lukems KNEW when Frankie posted!

A SET UP!

Yay for the info, cheers.

  • 12.01.2007 2:04 PM PDT
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Just curious if the Commando Shoulder glitch is going to be fixed anytime soon. Don't know if you covered it in your Update but just curious regardless.

Thanks!

  • 12.01.2007 2:17 PM PDT

Some people are just total noobs at life!

Posted by: JiM My NeL soN
Posted by: JiM My NeL soN
"David Candland already made a pretty convincing “Mario Kart” level, where you race around a proper circuit, complete with checkpoints and of course, the ability to drop power ups behind you for hilarious consequences (Energy Drain, Trip Mine and Gravity Lift for laffs) and of course, the new Mancannon Forge object makes for some pretty funny jumps too".


Bungie thats your big problem right now. We don't want a map you can hold the Talladega 500,or the Olympic games in. We want small competitive,fast game play. Your,your own company now time to grow up and make your own prices. Cash cows...
Another thing if I want to be 7 again and play Mario cart. If i want to play a racing game Ill load up PGR4 or something else. No I put Halo 3 in I can play every other Fkn game out there besides Halo. Tell me whys that?


ok now i have a question. doesnt it seem like in every forum theres someone who either doesnt know wat there talking about or didnt read the article completly? y dont u go read the article all they said is someone made a mario kart like map. this is not saying that that map is going to be like marion kart its simply trying to give u an example of the many things u can do w/ this map. this map is a 100 percent working map that can be played on matchmaking and is fully built like a regular map. its not a remake of mario kart

P.S. Nice job WhiffleBall Tony on shutting up those people who are STILL complaining about the price even AFTER bungie explained it

[Edited on 12.01.2007 2:51 PM PST]

  • 12.01.2007 2:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Hipoey
Machinima got Machiniripped


Yeah. :/

  • 12.01.2007 3:42 PM PDT

what is the easter egg that lowers your weapon?
will we get the transport hog in forge??? PLEEEEZ!!!!!!!

  • 12.01.2007 3:49 PM PDT
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First!


aww man I was close though.

[Edited on 12.01.2007 3:57 PM PST]

  • 12.01.2007 3:57 PM PDT

I run Skirmish!!!

does anyone know how much will the new maps will cost? in dollars not microsoft points.

  • 12.01.2007 4:14 PM PDT