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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 11/30/07
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9th page!!!!!!!!!!!

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I really don't see how you can abuse lowering your gun considering in halo 2 the only way you could lower your gun was if you ran out of grenades, holding down the left trigger. Frankie seriously think about this, that was the only way to lower your gun in H2, if it were the same way in H3 what abuse could possibly come out of it.

Absolutely none whatsoever. I've been a fan of the Halo series for a long time, and I make machinima. To see what I just read, I can only say that's the saddest explanation to keep a good thing out of a game, that helped us (those that make machinima) make the best machinima we can. Please re-discuss this with the crew there and re-consider excluding the ability to hold the gun down in custom games. The forum members over at Halogrid are rolling with anger over this reasoning.

If it were possible to have it in just custom games we'd be happy, somehow you managed to allow it in lan or system to system linked games, why not just allow it in customs but exclude it from matchmaking. I know it's possible and it can be done, so there's no way you can tell me it simply can't be done.

  • 12.01.2007 6:16 PM PDT

Live to pwn. Pwn to live.

The gun-lowering animation is worth the testing. or you could just make a machinima mode only. just get it in the game...you allow it in system link...things in the game are abused everywhere. I have never heard of the gun lowering button being abused. you just sound like you don't care at all or want to put the effort into something that IS very important to a BIG part of the community that has made Halo what it is.

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  • 12.01.2007 6:34 PM PDT

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amazing update i cant wait to get off work and get home just to play again, b.net gets the blood flowin. The DLC to come sounds great and it seems like you guys are really ironing out all the wrinkles. Thanks for feeding the bungie-holics. lol at tj scoot....

  • 12.01.2007 6:37 PM PDT

Posted by: sigmapi103
Posted by: Pyode Amedha
For those of you who keep saying that because Bungie broke away form Microsoft they should have full pricing control of the DLC, you need to understand that although Microsoft does not own Bungie anymore it does own the IP for Halo because Bungie was still a part of Microsoft when they made Halo: CE.


New content created outside the umbrella of MS should be sole property of Bungie, Not Microsoft. The new maps are being released December 11th, therefore, they should be property of Bungie and they should set the price. They state in the update they are not responsible for the prices. That doesn't compute.


It doesn't matter when it is to be sold, the fact remains that it is a Halo product and falls under the Halo IP that Microsoft owns, not Bungie.

  • 12.01.2007 7:21 PM PDT
Subject: A Nintendo Reference?!

A ten year dream finally realized. I finally have my own computer! Look out Internet and The World; Here Comes Tekknight! (12/22/06)

Wow this just goes to show how much more freedom Bungie has now that they're not owned by Microsoft; actually SAYING "Mario Kart"! I guess now they don't have to worry about Bill Gates seeing it, then dropping into Bungie offices to beat the offender unconcious with a sack full of gold bars.

  • 12.01.2007 7:48 PM PDT
Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 11/30/07
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I just pray to god that these updates wont repeat GoW. It fixes one problem, but adds 3 more...

Note: compleatly unintentional ryming

  • 12.01.2007 8:08 PM PDT
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I CANT WAIT FOR TEAM HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 12.01.2007 8:09 PM PDT

I am (was) Legend!

Bring Back Head to Head!!
Does it really matter how many people play it as long as you dont have to maintain servers?

Well good to hear you guys are working on stuff. I dont care about the new map prices, the only people who do are little kids or people who steal all their music offline. I dont care a lot about truskill, probably because i have never ad any real issues with it, although I'm not really all that good at halo if you go by k/d ratio (I'm 35 in lone wolves though)..
I have heard there are problems with the sniper, but I probably just suck with the sniper too, its definitely harder to use now in halo 3.
One of the few complaints I have at all still is the melee. Its garbage, and i hope you guys are going to make it like it was in halo 2 again. I dont care if I supposedly was getting robbed on my melees left and right,I never knew it so I was fine with how it worked, because most of the time I was able to predict if i could kill someone with a melee or not. I cant do that anymore So please stop rewarding slowness,I think a lot of us would appreciate it.

The only other thing I have had an issue with is the condescending treatment of a lot of fans by Bungie lately. I realise that there are always the idiots who dont read any other posts or check weekly updates or anything at all, but those of us who do probably would like to be treated like intelligent people with something legitimate to add to the converstion. I dont know how many time a fan posted a great argument about melee with videos, and got told it was garbage because of silly, trivial little reasons,(by a bungie employee) while the rest of us knew right away how it had proved its point.
And as far as the whole adult thing bungie, I hope you guys dont ever do anything again like you did with the recon. You treated us like small children,
when you could have told us employees only the first day. I know there will always be cheaters, but most of us are not, so dont treat us like we are all cheaters.

Anyhow, here's to a much improved game.

  • 12.01.2007 8:12 PM PDT

Please Bungie, redeem yourself w/ Reach.
Halo 2 and 3 both stink out loud.
In the immortal words of Mr Horse: Halo 2? No sir, didn't like it.

Posted by: Arowhead
Oh man... theyre not changing the object lists!? so i geuss we'll have to deal with hornets on construct which makes perfect sense with the 2 feet of space you can fly without falling to your death.


Even worse, no way to remove shield doors on Snowbound (assuming they will be an option in the future maps).

Posted by: Mr Shickadance
Can you make a patch for Halo 3 that makes it better than Call of duty 4, untill than Iam going to call in airstrikes on these updates....


I don't care for CoD but that was pretty funny.

Posted by: Anonymous Dark
Good update. Hopefully now all of those QQers can stfu.

*Nibbles on kitten*


All that "QQ"ing is what got us this kind of an update rather than "Hey things are awesome, we are going on vacation, podcast coming up soon, hey how about our new XYZ" etc etc

Hate to say it but the squeaky wheel......

Melee was ignored and dismissed until it reached the fevered pitch it has in the forums.

~telengard

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  • 12.01.2007 8:41 PM PDT

Please Bungie, redeem yourself w/ Reach.
Halo 2 and 3 both stink out loud.
In the immortal words of Mr Horse: Halo 2? No sir, didn't like it.

Posted by: LOKi007 CO37
how about a update to stop putting the other teams name above there head when they graze across your screen, giving away a perfect hidding spot.


Recon by reticle sweeping, c'mon it's awesome...

Just kidding. I don't like this feature. I've gotten some pretty cheap kills due to it. I saw NO ONE yet moving my reticule around in a dark area I see a nice big pop up of the player's name. Pow.

I don't recall this being in H2 or is my memory just bad? H:CE definitely did not.

~telengard

  • 12.01.2007 8:56 PM PDT
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REVOLT IM GUNNA START A RIOT FOR THE LOWERING WEAPONESS OF MACHINAMA REPENT REPENT TO ALL MY COMMUNITYS PEOPLE UNITE SO WE CAN TAKE DOWN THE BUNGIE TYRANNNY THAT IS HALO BLARG!*#@# LONG LIVE THE LOWERED WEAPON STANCE OF HALO MOVIES!!

  • 12.01.2007 8:58 PM PDT

Please Bungie, redeem yourself w/ Reach.
Halo 2 and 3 both stink out loud.
In the immortal words of Mr Horse: Halo 2? No sir, didn't like it.

Posted by: Neptunne0100
I love to see Bungie completely land a bow on all those "Too expensive!" or "Melee sucks!" or any other complaint you can think of.


Bungie = best company of all time. Out of all the companies that I've ever heard of, game-related or not, Bungie kills 'em all.


Heh, and how exactly can they do that? There's nothing they can *say* to "land a blow". What they could do is lower the price to something reasonable or <gasp> give it away.

If you think Bungie is the best company of all time, then I just don't know what to say...
I'm quite disappointed in Bungie as of late. I think the success and money has gone to their heads.

~telengard

  • 12.01.2007 9:11 PM PDT

Because Bungie wines about people boosting even though in Rumble Pit it says GO ALONE OR BRING A PARTY AND GO AT IT. Basically meaning go play by yourself or bring in friends and boost that way bungie can ban you even though its their fault for telling you to boost without consequences. So if you boost in rumble pit, its ok, if you get banned just message an employee and say the description allows you to boost.

BxR isn't that absurd. Still would be a good try to add because the BR isn't what it suppose to be. But hopefully the maps that are thought of "remakes" might include Lockout, best halo map ever BTW.

  • 12.01.2007 9:14 PM PDT

I am (was) Legend!

Bring Back Head to Head!!
Does it really matter how many people play it as long as you dont have to maintain servers?

Posted by: Flamingwinds
REVOLT IM GUNNA START A RIOT FOR THE LOWERING WEAPONESS OF MACHINAMA REPENT REPENT TO ALL MY COMMUNITYS PEOPLE UNITE SO WE CAN TAKE DOWN THE BUNGIE TYRANNNY THAT IS HALO BLARG!*#@# LONG LIVE THE LOWERED WEAPON STANCE OF HALO MOVIES!!

Go start a riot somewhere else, like your room, cause its past your bedtime buddy.

  • 12.01.2007 10:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: sigmapi103
I quote this from their update "we didn't set the price" and "We ain't accountants". Your seperated from Microsoft, yet you claim you don't set the price, and furthermore it goes on saying you (Bungie) can't figure out how much it costs to put together 3 maps? Seriously, what are you Enron? I can't even believe you would make such statements. How about answering the following question: Who set the price for the new DLC? MS? MS Game studios? And who is doing your payroll if you "ain't accountants"? You "ain't" telling the truth either.

Reposted from a locked thread designated as a "repeat". I am not complaining about the price, rather, the inconsistency of the statements made within the update. And no, Xbox Live's TOS does NOT state they set the prices for DLC or as they term it "premium content".

They don't choose the price. Have you ever been to different supermarkets? The same exact product can cost a different price, right? Basically, it's the seller who decides the price, not the maker. Bungie will decide the price that Microsoft must pay to sell them. The maps are sold through Xbox LIVE Marketplace, not a Bungie-regulated store. Microsoft decides it, not Bungie.


Yes, I have been to supermakets. They list the "unit price" then they list their price. That doesn;t happen here. In fact they don't even state whom sets the original price in the first place. Again, I REPEAT, Xbox Live TOS does NOT state they price the DLC. So, in essence, we are being lied to. Bungie in fact does set the price.

  • 12.01.2007 10:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deltasqaud23
BxR isn't that absurd. Still would be a good try to add because the BR isn't what it suppose to be. But hopefully the maps that are thought of "remakes" might include Lockout, best halo map ever BTW.


Are you kidding? The BxR almost made me stop playing halo 2. Hence the reason I only play team swat, or team sniper. And the BR in halo 3 is exactly how its suppose to be. Halo 3's auto aim isnt as tight as it was in Halo 2, but the power of the BR, imo is the same.

I personally was not good at BxRing people in halo 2, which means - you lose. And that fact really sucks. And Bungie acknowledging that and never fixing it really sat uneasy with me.


  • 12.02.2007 12:46 AM PDT
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I take just about everything I read map-wise on bungie.net with more than a few grains of salt after they released Construct. I hate that map so much.

  • 12.02.2007 2:28 AM PDT
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Well, nice going! I`m just a little bit concerned about skill levels. For example: a friend of mine and myself were involved in a 3 on 2 matchup last night, click here for the stats of that game. We led almost through the whole match, but ended up losing 50-46 against a greater force in numbers. Now after the match I went down a rank (I even scored better than the best man form the oppsoing team!), as a reward for performing so well against greater odds. Things like this happen a lot, which is the only real complaint I have about online Halo 3. Keep up the good work!


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  • 12.02.2007 4:52 AM PDT
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There are many issues that we’re investigating, so bear in mind that just because you don’t see something mentioned here, doesn’t mean we’re not looking into it. It’s almost certain in fact, that we are. We’re already looking into issues with melee, with parties being split unevenly in matchmaking, slow matchmaking, skill levels and much, much more.


have you been looking at the declining numbers?.........And you are still gonna charge 10 bucks for maps?......Maybe in WA, they say...We don't set the prices...

on the east coast they say..Don't pee down my back, and tell me its raining.......

  • 12.02.2007 5:19 AM PDT
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wait didn't i just buy this game in late septemeber =/ now i have to PAY for maps that have come available within the last 3 months of the game release.

should these maps have been included in the game I paid $60 for =/ and to top it all of the, game is SUCKS...................

  • 12.02.2007 5:37 AM PDT

There are those who are born into leadership, and they see it as the job they were meant to do, so they do it as such. Then there are those who see leadership and crave it. They are the ones who position themselves to gain leadership as a means to power, and so, lead as such.

I must say, my girlfriends dad working for Bungie and all, i spend a good deal talking to him about halo 3 and the company he works for. That said, he shares a lot with me about the frustrations he has with the game HE helped make, and how insanely difficult it is to code and implement any fixes for the game, let alone over xbox live, so he runs with what he worked hard to make. Because while it is not perfect, it is still awesome. So while all and every complaint about the major errors in the game are valid, people must understand that Bungie can only fix so many problems, because of the very large amount of manpower and resources it takes. Just becasue they generate a hefty sum of money, keep in mind that the bungie team is not much larger than 100, at least from what i remember from going to one of their picnics.

I am mainly aiming this post at the machinima guys, but really this is for everyone to keep in mind.
But remember also folks, the squeaky wheel does get the grease, so machinima guys, go post in the respective fourm topics where various movements have been made so that the voice of machinima makers will be heard.

  • 12.02.2007 5:51 AM PDT
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I cant wait for this. Foundry will be very fun to test.


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Haha, of all the people :)

  • 12.02.2007 7:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: superjonboy
Well good to hear you guys are working on stuff. I dont care about the new map prices, the only people who do are little kids or people who steal all their music offline. I dont care a lot about truskill, probably because i have never ad any real issues with it, although I'm not really all that good at halo if you go by k/d ratio (I'm 35 in lone wolves though)..
I have heard there are problems with the sniper, but I probably just suck with the sniper too, its definitely harder to use now in halo 3.
One of the few complaints I have at all still is the melee. Its garbage, and i hope you guys are going to make it like it was in halo 2 again. I dont care if I supposedly was getting robbed on my melees left and right,I never knew it so I was fine with how it worked, because most of the time I was able to predict if i could kill someone with a melee or not. I cant do that anymore So please stop rewarding slowness,I think a lot of us would appreciate it.

The only other thing I have had an issue with is the condescending treatment of a lot of fans by Bungie lately. I realise that there are always the idiots who dont read any other posts or check weekly updates or anything at all, but those of us who do probably would like to be treated like intelligent people with something legitimate to add to the converstion. I dont know how many time a fan posted a great argument about melee with videos, and got told it was garbage because of silly, trivial little reasons,(by a bungie employee) while the rest of us knew right away how it had proved its point.
And as far as the whole adult thing bungie, I hope you guys dont ever do anything again like you did with the recon. You treated us like small children,
when you could have told us employees only the first day. I know there will always be cheaters, but most of us are not, so dont treat us like we are all cheaters.

Anyhow, here's to a much improved game.


this guy knows wat hes talkin about

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man if they do do that (huh wait i said do-do...) oh ya anyway if they do do that Mario cart thing that will be awsome along with the remakes, i cant wait, also i hope they make Greaves(leg armor) and Boot augmentations as well. Maybe even a new down loadable weapon or 2

  • 12.02.2007 8:05 AM PDT