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Subject: Let The People Decide!
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Evil, indeed!

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  • 12.01.2007 9:37 PM PDT
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Community says no.

  • 12.01.2007 9:40 PM PDT
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Said it before and I will say it again; If this place ends up being run by the people, I will ban the people.

These forums are huge, we can barely control them now and we have absolute power. This idea is so insulting as you have no idea how much we put in and the care we take to ensure this is the best possible environment for Bungie to interact with the fanbase.

What you propose will destroy this community through waves of inefficient management, corruption, bias and abuse.

  • 12.01.2007 9:43 PM PDT
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This is a dictatorship, not a democracy.

You live with it, or you leave.

  • 12.01.2007 9:45 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

No thank you.

There are plenty of ways to shape the Community, you just have to be prepared to put your back where your mouth is.

I'd suggest you take a look around here. There are plenty of behind-the-scenes groups that actively work to better the community, and, in my possibly-biased opinion, their efforts show promise.

I would really dislike to lose our current state of moderators. There would be an extremely unnecessary rough period where things balanced out to an acceptible working state...if things balanced out at all.

  • 12.01.2007 9:46 PM PDT
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Zorastone, you sound as though you have a real problem with Bungie.net... How many threads like this have you made in the last few days?
You should make your own forum or something, and then you can make it however you like. Or even a group.

  • 12.01.2007 10:14 PM PDT
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Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

The problem of course, is that people with alternate accounts would have more power than people who voted only on their main account.

But then, you know that, don't you Zorastone?

  • 12.01.2007 11:02 PM PDT

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Ahem

  • 12.01.2007 11:14 PM PDT

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Officium quod Fidelitas.

The Short Version

Bungie controls everything. You have no rights. Play nice.



Destroying dreams since 2001. Ah-thank you.

  • 12.02.2007 12:42 AM PDT
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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

So, you want a place where people get to choose how a site is managed by themselves, for themselves?

Hmm, good on paper, but it simply won't work here. If you've used this site in depth, you'll understand that most of the people here don't care about order. They're here because Halo 3 is very popular. They only want to discuss Halo 3, they don't want to build and manage a community. Most of the people here can't seem to walk and chew gum at the same time. They are frequently immature and mean. Or they're so blatantly apathetic, that they simply don't care what happens here at all. Not all the users on this site fall into the above category, but a majority of them do, which partially negates your axiom.

Secondly, bans, warnings, and punishments are kept private in order to maintain the privacy of those who are being punished. A vote on whether or not someone should be banned or not will not only take too long, but it will also discuss things publicly that do need not be discussed publicly. If someone posts links to a shock site, are you going to flag it, then let everyone see and analyze it, then have a vote on it? In your model, that's exactly what you would do. While now, we can get rid of it as soon as possible. I think most of us will see which is more effective.

To the crux of your argument, what glaring violation of user rights have the moderators committed? They're usually very fair, and none of you (or us for that matter) have any rights here to begin with. Sure, we may be a bit harsh at time, but the forums themselves can be a bit harsh too. If you think an unfair action had occurred, contact a Master Moderator and point it out to them. If your issue is with a Master Moderator, there are still methods of appealing from there.

We need to be able to act quickly. We need the leeway to interpret the rules and CoC, and to use our best judgment in order to insure the rules are maintained. A democracy would not only take too long, but it would be a convoluted and superfluous mess. Its just a board after all, its not an actual municipality.

While I'm tempted to leave this open in order to allow others to smash this idea to pieces, I see no need to discuss this. I don't know if Achronos would give you a long post pertaining to why he'd never do this, or if he'd be blunt and say simply "No", but I know he'd say no to this. Its not an effective way to govern this site, and it certainly not needed. So, I'm locking this, because if you have any pragmatic sense, you'll realize that this is never going to happen.

  • 12.02.2007 3:05 AM PDT