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Subject: Halo 2 multi changes I hope are optional
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There are somethings that are rumored as being changed in halo2 that i would like to see the OPTION to change back in multiplayer:

Vehicle dmg and destruction. Why? Because it was fun to blow someone out of the warthog and or ghost then get to use the thing for yourself. Also i don't like the vehicle respawn, i know weapons do it but its strange having a vehicle pop up from nowhere.

Halo 1 weapons. I hear that they're changing the pistol and all, that's fine. It would just be nice to have the option to put on a weapon type w/ all the halo 1 weapons.

Running w/ no weapons. I still havn't seen this, but It sounds like it will be used alot if it works the way the rumours say. Just the option to turn it off would be nice.

`Edit`: I forgot, I would also like the option to only be able to be one character, ie only spartans, only brutes(if you can be them), only elites etc. I just don't think they'll all be identical and you know if people find one little thing better about one they'll milk it for all its worth. Remember oddjob of goldeneye?
I also don't think bungie should/can try to make each race be different and have different advantages/disadvantages. The attempt to balance would be much to hard and a slight flaw spawns a race of oddjobs.
All I'm asking for is say the option for the host to choose whether everyone can pick they're char at will or they all be the same race.

I'm new here, I've been a hardcore blizzard fan in the past and in their forums they read posts and post responses. I was kinda hoping thats the same way bungie does it here.


[Edited on 6/8/2004 11:13:52 AM]

  • 06.08.2004 10:58 AM PDT
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You can blow up the Hog and then just take it for yourself. Nothing changes there. It probably won't work on a ghost though.

Instead, change your tactics. Snipe him out of the Hog or Ghost. You can do that now in Halo2.

Oh... and You're going to get flamed. Bungie makes Halo, not Blizzard. Blizzard is making Starcraft: Ghost. *hands you a firefighter jacket*

  • 06.08.2004 11:01 AM PDT
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That is why i think halo2 should have a second disc for MP. Then you could fit all that nice good old stuff. I agree 100% with all your options. Except the sprint one, i see no reason to turn that one off?

Edit: i also would like to see a vehical option for how many per map and what kinds. not all or standard. This would have to be limited to some extent though.

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  • 06.08.2004 11:01 AM PDT
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I know bungie makes halo, i was saying i come from blizzard forums where they post responses etc... And hoping bungie does the same.

  • 06.08.2004 11:03 AM PDT
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I just think that the sprint might be used all the time, I just liked how halo 1 played w/o the sprint. I guess they're adding it bc of large maps or trying to help out spawns to escape fire of more powerfull guns. But I agree thats the option I worry the least about.

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  • 06.08.2004 11:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Keyser_Soze
There are somethings that are rumored as being changed in halo2 that i would like to see the OPTION to change back in multiplayer:

Vehicle dmg and destruction. Why? Because it was fun to blow someone out of the warthog and or ghost then get to use the thing for yourself. Also i don't like the vehicle respawn, i know weapons do it but its strange having a vehicle pop up from nowhere.


I could see how people would want this... The major problem with this option is that the purpose of weapons might be altered, thus imbalances in weapons will accure.

Halo 1 weapons. I hear that they're changing the pistol and all, that's fine. It would just be nice to have the option to put on a weapon type w/ all the halo 1 weapons.

If your talking about making the weapons 100% of how they were in Halo... No, just no... Balanced weapons make better matches, not boring ones...

Now, if it's for selecting weapons to play with... They should just make a check list, and you check the weapons you want to see on the field (note, that some levels might not beable to support every weapon you put on the field. Maybe in these instances... They randomly pick weapons every round that are on your checked off list)

Running w/ no weapons. I still havn't seen this, but It sounds like it will be used alot if it works the way the rumours say. Just the option to turn it off would be nice.

Most likely never going to happen, you'll just have to get used to it...

I'm new here, I've been a hardcore blizzard fan in the past and in their forums they read posts and post responses. I was kinda hoping thats the same way bungie does it here.


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  • 06.08.2004 11:12 AM PDT
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Alot of people liked the way halo 1 weapons panned out. Just the option is all i want. If you don't like them you don't have to play w/ them! Maybe they could make slight changes to say the needler and the ar to make them stronger like they will be in h2.

And again, i know bungie makes halo, i was making a reference to how blizzards forums work and that I hoped bungie does the same thing.

Also: I edited my first post and added the topic of being able to choose different races.

  • 06.08.2004 11:16 AM PDT
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I'll tell the option I'd really like to see. Being able to choose the time and weather on a map would make things interesting in my opinion. Fog, rain, darkness or anything else you could think of could really add a whole new layer to multiplayer. What levels might have been the posterchildren for zergish charging could be turned into stealth-based matches. This would be a bit complicated, but rain could also make non-hovering vehicles slide around more and even slow down running (mud).

I doubt we'll get that option, but it would be interesting to consider.

  • 06.08.2004 11:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Keyser_Soze
Alot of people liked the way halo 1 weapons panned out. Just the option is all i want. If you don't like them you don't have to play w/ them! Maybe they could make slight changes to say the needler and the ar to make them stronger like they will be in h2.


Your most likely just saying that because you want the hidiously overpowered super pistol that Halo had back in the way it was in Halo Combat Evolved...

I wouldn't even considered that a reasonable request...

  • 06.08.2004 11:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: Scipio
I'll tell the option I'd really like to see. Being able to choose the time and weather on a map would make things interesting in my opinion. Fog, rain, darkness or anything else you could think of could really add a whole new layer to multiplayer. What levels might have been the posterchildren for zergish charging could be turned into stealth-based matches. This would be a bit complicated, but rain could also make non-hovering vehicles slide around more and even slow down running (mud).

I doubt we'll get that option, but it would be interesting to consider.



This is also something I think would be cool. The problem would lie with static light maps. Halo 1 had tons and I think thats what made it diffiuclt to do. Halo 2 is much more based around real time lighting, however I do believe there are still a number of light maps, thus causing complications. I guess well just have to see.

  • 06.08.2004 11:37 AM PDT
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No offense but myself and everyone i know who plays liked the halo1 weapons, u don't, that's why it's a option.

  • 06.08.2004 11:41 AM PDT
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I like the pistol in Halo 1 a lot. It was only as good as you were with it. That said, once you pass newb status you will pretty much use the pistol exclusively, which probably isn't right. The solution perhaps would be not so much to make the pistol worse (maybe a little less powerful) so much but as to make the other weapons more skill based. So that you were not in deep s*** for not having a pistol or what ever weapon X. The fact is the skill curve of the pistol is what makes Halo such a competitive game. I think more weapons should be more skill based like the pistol.

  • 06.08.2004 11:52 AM PDT
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But, playing in 90% of the games that included pistols that turned into "pistol wars" was down right annoying. If they even thought up this idea then I would rather it not be an xbox live option... Because I'd rather not play with trashy settings (like bots, I don't have any problem with them in everything, but xbox live...)

I just don't want to see 50% of the game servers empty and wasted because people that "love" the unbalanced weapons in Halo: Combat Evolved... Since the majority of the people hate the pistol in Halo...

To tell you my opinion: I think the pistol is worse then the panzer on Return to Castle Wolfensteins Elimination mode... Expecially how people spawn camped with that gun... Spawn, then dead, spawn, then dead...

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  • 06.08.2004 11:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Alerus
I like the pistol in Halo 1 a lot. It was only as good as you were with it. That said, once you pass newb status you will pretty much use the pistol exclusively, which probably isn't right. The solution perhaps would be not so much to make the pistol worse (maybe a little less powerful) so much but as to make the other weapons more skill based. So that you were not in deep s*** for not having a pistol or what ever weapon X. The fact is the skill curve of the pistol is what makes Halo such a competitive game. I think more weapons should be more skill based like the pistol.


I thought the pistol was a joke to use... It was so easy, what skill is really needed? It's definitely on my top list of "the worst overpowered weapons in FPS history"... Only nuke weapons beat it from being #1 on that list (The Farsight and crossbow is another two weapons on that list (not above halo's pistol and both from perfect dark)), where people modded weapons that killed everyone in the room no matter were they were...

  • 06.08.2004 12:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Alerus
I like the pistol in Halo 1 a lot. It was only as good as you were with it. That said, once you pass newb status you will pretty much use the pistol exclusively, which probably isn't right. The solution perhaps would be not so much to make the pistol worse (maybe a little less powerful) so much but as to make the other weapons more skill based. So that you were not in deep s*** for not having a pistol or what ever weapon X. The fact is the skill curve of the pistol is what makes Halo such a competitive game. I think more weapons should be more skill based like the pistol.


I thought the pistol was a joke to use... It was so easy, what skill is really needed? It's definitely on my top list of "the worst overpowered weapons in FPS history"... Only nuke weapons beat it from being #1 on that list (The Farsight and crossbow is another two weapons on that list (not above halo's pistol and both from perfect dark)), where people modded weapons that killed everyone in the room no matter were they were...


Do you play on xbconnect? I'm damn good w/ the pistol and other people are miles above me. I don't think the pistol is as imbalanced as you make it out to be. Sniper and rocket are just as good, and shotguns up close are deadly. Where they failed is the covie weaps and the ar. Also pistol wars arent just w/ the pistol, its pistol and grenades.

  • 06.08.2004 2:57 PM PDT