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Posted by: agent404
How long until this thread gets locked up? I estimate 80 seconds.




I hope so.

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Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.

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If they can talk about Buddhism in the other thread, I don't see why we can't question existance. Personally, I don't think anyone who gets so easily offended by such discussions would be playing Halo or going to the Bungie.net fora in the first place.

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thats all bull, the second law of thermodynamics states thats complex ordered arrangements and systems naturally become simpler and more disorderly with time.
A "big bang" type of explosioin always, always, always destroys compelxity and produces disorder. rather than forming planets and star sytsems, matter should have continued expanding and dissipated completely, for in outer space there is nothing to stop a moving object.

the odds that such an explosion could produce the highly organized structres we see in the universe today are 1 in 10(followed by 2 billion zeroes) absolutely impossible.

it leaves unanswered the questions that always arise when a precise date is given for the creation of the universe: where did the matter come from in the first place?

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my -blam!-

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First off, nothing in thermodynamics is a law. They're all theories. Laws are proven. It's similar to the cell theory in that there's no proof that everything is made up of cells. Perhaps some elements become more complex, rather than simple. What you're referring to is half-life.

The Big Bang, going against the second theory of thermodynamics, could be true. There's no way to find out if that theory is true or false until the whole universe is discovered, which I can say will never happen during the span of humanity.

Your little part about inertia is incorrect. If a star were to implode and turn into a black hole, then the objects would be pulled in and possibly stop. The matter and gases that combine to form a star can become so heavy in mass that they create gravity, which goes both with and against inertia. Needless to say, you can stop an object in space.

Odds have nothing to do with this. It is either true or false. Besides, I have no idea where you're getting your information. Perhaps you're making it up. Even if odds had something to do with this matter, then there is still a chance. Even One in 10^2B means that there is a chance, albeit a small one, that the event could happen.

There needs to be no precise date for which the universe was created. Scientists believe they know at around what date the universe was created. I don't remember off hand, but it was that of billions of years ago.

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Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

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Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.

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Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.

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Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


yahh make it bigger

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Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN

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Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN



Very, very true.

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Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

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Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?

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Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

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Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.

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Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch

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I've never seen retardation displayed so brilliantly.

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Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
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Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch

Going for the world record....

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Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch


first person it eats is you

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Posted by: Bring the Noise
I've never seen retardation displayed so brilliantly.

It's beautiful, isn't it?

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Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch


first person it eats is you


wonder what the world record is?

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Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch


first person it eats is you


wonder what the world record is?

I think it's somewhere around 10,938 "Posted by" things

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Posted by: goweb
how come there was matter in the first place in the middle of nothing
The concept of time doesn't exist before the Big Bang. Time started at the start of it. So there was no before.
Indeed, the concept of time doesn't reach to "before" the Big Bang. (proper noun)
I won't even comment beyond this on the starter's calling all the matter we have "a single atom"...
The Big Bang is a sorta meeting of timelines, like how the North Pole is a meeting of longitude lines. The Big Bang State, another proper noun, is a singularity. What people mean when they say that physical laws and causality break down is that the configuration does not have only one cause or result. If a singularity is the result or gravitational collapse and is completely indistinguishable from any other of the same mass, you cannot know from the singularity alone exactly what configuration caused it. (If you're a good enough detective, you might be able to infer it's cause from the condition of its surroundings within its current influence radius) There are many ways it could have been made. If you run time backward and watch the singularity explode, you don't know exactly what configuration of energy it will explode into until you see it. (Aside: I don't know, but I think this is where T symmetry fails. Msg me if you know better!) The Big Bang is where a great many "timelines" meet because it's a state of spacetime and energy that's shared by many "universes" with the same mass- all such that have a Big Bang State at either end or both ends.

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Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: anewerdisease
Posted by: MakaVeli4LIfe1
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
Posted by: agent404
Posted by: Bring the Noise
I think whoever imagined up god was on crack.

So were your mom and dad when they made you.

Sorry I just couldn't resist saying that.



I bet you couldn't. Seeing as how you could never win an arguement with me, that would be that way to go.

I'm not trying to win any arguement here. I just found the opportunity to say something funny.


Then by all means you should take it. Maybe sometime in your life you'll find the opportunity to say something intelligent.


Don't hold your breath about it though, you might pass out BtN


grow grow grow

Dude when does it stop?


never grow grow live!

Doesn't stop here.


Its...its alive biatch


first person it eats is you


wonder what the world record is?

I think it's somewhere around 10,938 "Posted by" things

all good keep it going,,, I must leave you

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