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Subject: Do We Need More Moderators?

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Poll: Do We Need More Moderators  [closed]
Yes:  44%
(24 Votes)
No:  44%
(24 Votes)
No opinion:  13%
(7 Votes)
Total Votes: 55

Well, I don't know about you guys, but it seems like the moderating staff is very inactive. The only guys who I see online really at all are Recon Number 54, just another fan, Gods Prophet, Pezz(a), Achilles1108, evilcam, xTr1GGeR HaPPYx, Great_Pretender, Yoozel, and ash55. Pretty much all of the other mods are on rarely. I was looking at the member list for HFCS and there is an awfully long list of moderators who come on rarely:

Anton P Nym
BobBQ
chris547
GameJunkieJim
goweb
Jeremiah
KPaul
MakaVeli4LIfe1
Nosferatu_Soldie
Senor Leche
stosh
THE DON WAN

Because of this, I believe that there should be more moderators for the forums. The guys who do come on do a great job, but they can only come online so often.
Do you guys agree with me or am I just crazy?

[Edited on 12.14.2007 11:13 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 7:59 AM PDT

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3 or 4 of one ones you mentioned as being on "rarely", i see at least once a day...or a few times a week.

[Edited on 12.14.2007 8:03 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 8:02 AM PDT
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Running turtle, skiptrace and nuchie aren't moderators for starters, Jim doesn't have any internet atm, and just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't online. A lot of moderation happens behind the scenes.

Except for Maka, he's a special case.

[Edited on 12.14.2007 8:03 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 8:03 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: just another fan
Running turtle, skiptrace and nuchie aren't moderators for starters, Jim doesn't have any internet atm, and just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't online. A lot of moderation happens behind the scenes.

Except for Maka, he's a special case.

Yes, I've been checking the profiles to see if they sign on or not, and they do, but many times when I come online, there are threads about Recon, spam, repeat topics, etc. Most of this is in the Halo 3 forum, and it seems like moderators go there the least out of any of the forums.

  • 12.14.2007 8:06 AM PDT
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The Halo forums are the most visited forums of the bunch, it's just that those forums have the highest activity as well. But that's where the report as spam feature comes in. Now you can be a deputee and support your local sherrif!

[Edited on 12.14.2007 8:13 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 8:13 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: just another fan
The Halo forums are the most visited forums of the bunch, it's just that those forums have the highest activity as well.

Well, that's kind of what I mean. I think that we should have the moderators to match the activity.But that's where the report as spam feature comes in. Now you can be a deputee and support your local sherrif!
And that feature is a godsend. I'm really, really happy that they made one, but, again, it's of no use if no moderator is on at the time.

You make valid points, though, and thanks for responding. I don't want to sound really like I'm complaining (please don't interpret it like that), but I kind of want to see the opinions of the community.

  • 12.14.2007 8:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Achronos's prediction came true -- the "Report Post" button is kicking ass! There has been a ridiculously awesome reduction in bad posts already, and it's been online only 5 days. With the Report Post button in place, only a couple of moderators online is sufficient to handle all of the forums.

The only issue is when no moderators are online, which does still tend to happen. But as I've always said, there's very rarely a "forum emergency" and bad posts can wait til somebody comes back. I don't think more mods are necessary right now.

[Edited on 12.14.2007 8:41 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 8:40 AM PDT
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Why is it that you disagree directly with absolutely everything, Sexbox..?

It's strange. /:

  • 12.14.2007 8:42 AM PDT
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So now I'm a beta tester. Let's see where this goes.

I'm sure that when and if we need more mods we'll get them, but the decision isn't up to the community. It's up to the overlord and the master ninjas.

  • 12.14.2007 8:43 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: x Foman123 x
The only issue is when no moderators are online, which does still tend to happen.
Yes. This is the situation that I'm talking about. I think it happens quite often.

To just another fan, I see that you've done a little work in the Halo 3 forum. ;)

  • 12.14.2007 8:45 AM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

We need less sucky members.

  • 12.14.2007 8:49 AM PDT

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This is the age old story of people wanting 24 hour policing.
It can never happen.

We have hundreds and hundreds of police in my hometown...but crime still happens.
It would take so much man power and money to keep the peace...but crime would STILL happen.

Same goes for bungie.net, the crap will still keep happening, the only thing that matters is that it gets dealt with and it does.

  • 12.14.2007 8:51 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: PKF_647
This is the age old story of people wanting 24 hour policing.
It can never happen.

We have hundreds and hundreds of police in my hometown...but crime still happens.
It would take so much man power and money to keep the peace...but crime would STILL happen.

Same goes for bungie.net, the crap will still keep happening, the only thing that matters is that it gets dealt with and it does.

Actually, Bungie can be different. Since it is a website, people from different time zones can log on. Someone who is in Australia, like Pezz, can sign on at times that someone from America can't. If we utilized time zones like this, then it could be structured so that there is at least one moderator on all the time.

  • 12.14.2007 8:59 AM PDT

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There is nothing wrong with the current number of moderators and their activity. The problem is with a handful of people from the community disobeying the rules. Moderators are always on MSN or some other chat device and you can always PM and use Report as Spam. It only takes a few to ruin the fun for many.

Pezza, ban more idiots ;)

  • 12.14.2007 9:03 AM PDT
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Hmmm Sexbox, I guess it's just an... anecotal? pattern that's built up. I usually see you in heated debate threads saying something combative or contentious.

I suppose you just express your opinion more vocally (as far as is possible on a forum) than others. |:

[Edited on 12.14.2007 9:11 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2007 9:04 AM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

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Posted by: Qbix89
We need less sucky members.
Less evilcam, more Ninja 0n Fire!


Hey, Evilcam is awesome!

  • 12.14.2007 9:06 AM PDT

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Idea:

Each Mod/Ninja/Employee gets an Arduino board spam counter.
The board will be equipped with an LED/LCD display and a buzzer/bell

Every time the "report spam" link is clicked, the buzzer/bell rings and another 1pt value is added to the display.

When a report is dealt with, the counter will go down 1pt value.



* I know ist a dumb idea...the G*d Damn buzzer/bell will be going off every second*

  • 12.14.2007 9:08 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: Recon Number 54
I think that this also comes down to expectations of resolution.

For example, when I am here, because of my inability to keep my mouth shut, people know that I am here and notice that spam reports get resolved either when I encounter problem threads while patrolling, or when there are sufficient reports to put a specific post/thread onto our notification system.

Many times, problems are taken care of before that thread gets many replies.

My question is, what is wrong if a member makes an inappropriate post (or spams, or flames, or violates rules) and that post/user is not seen or addressed for..... a couple of hours? How is that terrible? If it is reported... the Matrix has them. We are going to see them (whether it is realtime or after they have gone to bed) and we are going to deal with them. It's not like their text is going to disappear or become hidden because a few hours have passed.

I don't see the major problem. Sure, it is annoying (and a little disappointing) to make a spam report and not see immediate results to clicking on the link. Just like people want to report someone for cheating on XBL and watch as their account bursts into flames before their eyes.

But the reporting system works, anything that is reported, we get to. So if Johnny is being a tool at 3 AM and there are not any ninjas around... members who took the time to click on the report button have all but guaranteed that Johnny is going to get reviewed and spanked. But they may not be around when the spanking occurs.

A disruptor (even a remarkably prolific spammer) is not capable of making the forums unusable. They are (by definition) just a disruption. There is no need to worry about that member if you have reported them. There is no need to reply to them, make threads about "does ____ deserve to be banned?" or any of the other forms of attention that certain types of disruptions crave.

In terms of banning, you are correct. However, with threads that should be locked, it is almost like bumping. People find the thread so annoying that they have to post repeatedly about how much the poster "phails" or other nonsense. Every member will continue to do this until the thread gets locked and useful topics get smite to the ground. This is the main thing that annoys me.

  • 12.14.2007 9:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: WhiffleBallTony
People find the thread so annoying that they have to post repeatedly about how much the poster "phails" or other nonsense. Every member will continue to do this until the thread gets locked and useful topics get smite to the ground. This is the main thing that annoys me.


If they do that..they they will get a warning or be banned.....its that simple.

  • 12.14.2007 9:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: PKF_647
Posted by: WhiffleBallTony
People find the thread so annoying that they have to post repeatedly about how much the poster "phails" or other nonsense. Every member will continue to do this until the thread gets locked and useful topics get smite to the ground. This is the main thing that annoys me.


If they do that..they they will get a warning or be banned.....its that simple.

But it still doesn't change the fact that useful topics get thrown back. With people getting banned, it can happen whenever, but in fast forums like the Halo 3 forum, I feel as though speed is a necessity.

  • 12.14.2007 9:22 AM PDT

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It still seems to me that users are the problem, not a lack of moderators or lack of the system. Truly is PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair). As long as idiots get dealt with then I can sleep safe at night.

  • 12.14.2007 9:33 AM PDT

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