- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Posted by: Nedge
Posted by: x Foman123 x
I'll say the same thing that I said in the post about more mods a couple days ago, and the post about more mods a couple days before that.
Do we need more moderators? No. Would more moderators be nice to have? Yes.
To respond to a few various comments and continue with Recon's analogy:
In either scenario, the forums or the circus, there is rarely such thing as a forum (or elephant poop) "emergency." A pile of elephant poop is not an emergency. That much I agree with.
The real question, though, Recon, is whether your circus is perceived as dirty and unpleasant. Because here, it's not just one pile of elephant poop lying around. It is dozens or hundreds of piles, made by thousands of elephants. Sure, it's still not an emergency even then. But if you only have a few guys cleaning up the poop, and the elephants are pooping faster than they can clean it, the audience will come away with the feeling that the circus was unpleasant and dirty. They will not recommend it to their friends unless they and their friends happen to love elephant poop. The more cleanliness-conscious, hygenic members of society will avoid that particular circus in favor of cleaner ones. That leaves the people who care about the circus and want to see it succeed watching the show amongst a crowd of elephant poop lovers, who gleefully throw more piles of elephant poop into the ring and distract the others from enjoying the trapeze act.
The same concept metaphorically applies in its entirety to the forums, and so I'm glad you brought up this analogy.
So as I have said before: no, we do not "need" more moderators, but it sure wouldn't hurt. Except for Achronos, I have yet to see anybody -- moderators included --give an affirmative reason why we should not have more moderators. And Achronos's worry was one of trust in the people to be appointed, not in the logistics or practicality of adding them. The trust issue should be addressed head-on rather than avoided via the dubious and circuitous route of not appointing new moderators.
The report post button (the pager) is helping things out a lot (in fact, in my opinion, it is kicking ass), but the volume of complaints does not seem to be much diminished.
In conclusion, I still have not seen any reasons that we NEEEEEED more moderators, as the ones we have are doing great and the report post button helps them kick even more ass than before. But they are busy and have lives and things to do outside of cleaning up spam. And when they are on, sometimes it can be tough to keep up with the rate at which new bad posts are created (especially in replies rather than OPs).
But I think that deep down, even if they don't say it, the people who care about this place would like to see a little bit less elephant poop lying around.
My word Foman. You have probably just made the best stance on having more mods I have read yet. Usually I can find a reason to explain why we don't need more mods but seeing as you didn't take that route I am left with saying that you make a good point. Unfortunately I whole heartedly believe that we aren't going to have any new mods anytime soon. I think that they are waiting to see just how effective the spam button is on a long term scale.
In Foman we trust .. if he makes me mod . haha .
Yeah , no more elephant poop FTW !
[Edited on 12.19.2007 8:33 PM PST]