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Subject: Halo 2: The Worst Online Experience

"I agree OP. I, too, love feeling superior to others and enjoy the sensation of belonging to an imaginary elitist group on the internet."

I can't take it any more. I just have to say it. Halo 2 has one of the worst online experiences in the gaming universe.

My friends got me into Halo 2 a year or so after it's release. I bought the game, an Xbox live account, and started to play.

At first, I was having fun. Campaign was solid, multiplayer was fun, and it was an overall good time.

However, my Xbox died on me 5 times in two months. How lame is that? It was brand new, and it breaks. Microsoft made a big mistake in making a cheap system and replacing effective / expensive [arts with cheap / easily breakable ones. Oh well, M$ are idiots. What else is new?

Then, as I slowly progress up, I begin to notice things. How did he get out of the map? You know, the other team hasn't killed me yet with a BR. Wait, did he just shoot two shots at once with a BR? Why is that guy on my time repeatedly killing himself?

I soon realised that this was the proud "pro" community I was striving to get into. It was full of cheaters. Why should I work to bring up my rank when when I do get to a high level, it's a terrible experience? I can't even go ONE game without a Cheater, Hacker, Deranker, Jerk, or overall n00b. It ruins the overall fun of the game.

Team Hardcore is the worse. Sure, everyone has a BR. But that loses it's fun what, when you start? BXR, BXB, and the like ruin the game. I can't believe I spent over $1000 in repairs, the game, the Xbox, and other products JUST to want my money back.

Stop cheating. You're ruining the game.

  • 12.19.2007 11:16 AM PDT
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Your Xbox 360 broke on you 5 times?

Stop cheating. You're ruining the game.
Nothing you say can stop people from cheating. If it's in the game then people will exploit it. Period.

  • 12.19.2007 12:01 PM PDT
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Wow im sorry but calling BXR and BXB cheating is -blam!- hilarious, you must have downsyndrome if you cant press the buttons B X and then R, while true that it is a button glitch that was not intended to be in the game but anyone can do it you just have to practice. Hardcore was designed for hardcore teams to practice, and is based on mlg gametypes. I see you as being the player who says all you can do is doubleshot noob. that makes me laugh everytime i hear it because 1) i dont double shot and 2) anyone who can double shot is probably not a noob.

  • 12.21.2007 7:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: maggotsinfest13
Wow im sorry but calling BXR and BXB cheating is -blam!- hilarious, you must have downsyndrome if you cant press the buttons B X and then R, while true that it is a button glitch that was not intended to be in the game but anyone can do it you just have to practice. Hardcore was designed for hardcore teams to practice, and is based on mlg gametypes. I see you as being the player who says all you can do is doubleshot noob. that makes me laugh everytime i hear it because 1) i dont double shot and 2) anyone who can double shot is probably not a noob.


QFT.

I hate when noobs think they've been doubleshotted, when only 2% of the time they whine about RRX they aren't being dub shotted, just out BR'd.

And as for saying "all you can do is dub shot". The best players don't just run around doubleshotting, they use it instinctively when they feel necessary.

As for BxR, for most skilled players it has become 2nd nature to BxR someone as soon as they round a corner, or appear within range instead of just pressing B. If your BR isn't reloaded then it is 2nd nature to BxB.

While you may think it is cheap, keep in mind that the good players who use these glitches don't run around with the intention of BxRing someone, they use it instinctively.

Button glitches do not make a skilled player or team. Aim, tactics, strategy, knowledge of the map, reacting to the situation quickly and most importantly, teamwork and communication make a good team/player. Take these glitches away from pros and they still destroy anybody at this game or any other Halo game. Keep in mind that most were Halo 1 pros and will be Halo 3 pros.

It reminds me of a game I played where some kid complained about button glitches all game. Afterwards I played him 1v1 and didn't use button glitches because I knew he thought that they were the only reason I won. After I beat him 1v1 he said "nice doubleshot noob". That just goes to show that he wanted something to blame for his lack of skill.

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  • 12.22.2007 2:10 AM PDT

"I agree OP. I, too, love feeling superior to others and enjoy the sensation of belonging to an imaginary elitist group on the internet."

The button glitches I can get over, as that is easily excessible to all. It's just not fun for a casual gamer.

Some games can get unbalanced REALLY fast. For example, on a Team Sniper game on Terminal, the main goal is to grab the garage. However, as the game starts, one of my team mates quit. This really annoys me. It's these same people who de-rank in order to play people of a lower skill level. It's unfair.


So it's 3 on 4. Great. The other team grabs the garage. However, one of their teammates spawns on the third floor, and stays there. The other two camp EVERY entrance. We try and assault it in all ways possible. We can't do it. They are all over us.

After much slaughter, we manage to kill them. Two of us died in the process, but we made it. Now, the last survivor is trying to camp all three entrances at once. Where do we spawn? Near the Wraith spawn. Where does the blue team spawn? In the Blue Base. They immediately rush with three players, and our last man is killed before we can make it.


Spawns really piss me off sometimes. I hate it when I spawn in a completely different area then my teammates. We'll be spread out, thus defeating the purpose of a combined assualt. Or, even worse, spawn in the complete sight of the enemy.


All of these errors combined do NOT make for fun online experience. Getting matched up with higher ranks then you, unbalanced weapons, and spawn points are all terrible features of an overall overated game. I wouldn't even give Halo 2 a 9.

  • 12.22.2007 3:15 PM PDT
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I agree with you about spawns in halo. There is some messed up spawns, one of the worst being a match i played in thc and i literally spawned into a guy swinging his sword and i got assassinated. But i find that having less people on my team in team snipers actually to be an advantage and there is a way to overcome the camping of the garage on terminal. What i usually do since i know 90 percent of ppl usually camp/rush the the garage at the beggining i setup in courtyard and play the waiting game until they get frustrated and go on the hunt. I know it sucks having ppl quit out on you during the match which is exactly why i dont play with randoms. I always search in a party of 4 ppl that i know are both good and will stay a whole match. You also have to realize that getting matched up with higher ranks than you doesn't really mean much. Ranks mean very little about a players true skill anymore, if i get paired up against a 50 i can't help but laugh. The matches will be more uneven due to ppl leaving to play H3 and other games like the total H2 population now is lik 2700 ppl that play. so obviously there is gonna be some uneven matches becasue not everyone is gonna be all level 20's or 30's.

  • 12.23.2007 9:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: IxIx Fatal xIxI
you know what pi$$es me off?? Ascension. You wanna talk about bad spawns?? Ascension. You Wanna talk about camping with power weapons? Ascension. Ascension. One word, so much aggravation,frustration and overall suckage of that particular map. Don't even get me started on beaver creek......
>:O


Quite true.

  • 12.23.2007 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: maggotsinfest13
I agree with you about spawns in halo. There is some messed up spawns, one of the worst being a match i played in thc and i literally spawned into a guy swinging his sword and i got assassinated. But i find that having less people on my team in team snipers actually to be an advantage and there is a way to overcome the camping of the garage on terminal. What i usually do since i know 90 percent of ppl usually camp/rush the the garage at the beggining i setup in courtyard and play the waiting game until they get frustrated and go on the hunt. I know it sucks having ppl quit out on you during the match which is exactly why i dont play with randoms. I always search in a party of 4 ppl that i know are both good and will stay a whole match. You also have to realize that getting matched up with higher ranks than you doesn't really mean much. Ranks mean very little about a players true skill anymore, if i get paired up against a 50 i can't help but laugh. The matches will be more uneven due to ppl leaving to play H3 and other games like the total H2 population now is lik 2700 ppl that play. so obviously there is gonna be some uneven matches becasue not everyone is gonna be all level 20's or 30's.


I agree with you about the spawns there. Quite often I find myself spawning with the rest of my team across the map from me and the entire opposing team standing quite literally right beside me. Also, I was in a match on Desolation the other day, and as soon as I threw a plasma grenade my teammate spawned up directly in front of it, getting stuck in the face. Perhaps that's not really the spawn system's fault, but it's annoying when stuff like that happens.

  • 12.23.2007 3:26 PM PDT
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I guess Im going to be the first one to agree with the OP.

BxR, Double shooting and quad shooting ruins the game for the casual gamer. I play the game for fun, not to rank up and "own n00bs". Im pretty good though. I rank up fast and all of the sudden im getting owned. Now, you can get owned and still have fun as long as the person beating you is doing it cleanly and you have a chance to beat him.

Button glitches are cheating, though. I have a life and dont spend hours trying to master these button glitches. So, I get pissed when a game that used to be fun is now pointless because it is someones life goal to be a level 50 in halo.

So to all of you people who use button glitches, congratulations. You have made it impossible for someone to enjoy the game who doesnt want to spend hours mastering these glitches.

  • 12.23.2007 5:27 PM PDT

Greatest of all time

I would rather be the 3 in a 3v4 snipe game. You have more targets and therefore more kills.

Halo 2 is far from the worst though my friend.

  • 12.23.2007 7:34 PM PDT
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FinalKing, you need to quit b!tchin and just not play Halo 2 online then if you don't like it, no one likes a whiner...

[Edited on 12.23.2007 10:00 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2007 10:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: BeaverMonkey
I guess Im going to be the first one to agree with the OP.

BxR, Double shooting and quad shooting ruins the game for the casual gamer. I play the game for fun, not to rank up and "own n00bs". Im pretty good though. I rank up fast and all of the sudden im getting owned. Now, you can get owned and still have fun as long as the person beating you is doing it cleanly and you have a chance to beat him.

Button glitches are cheating, though. I have a life and dont spend hours trying to master these button glitches. So, I get pissed when a game that used to be fun is now pointless because it is someones life goal to be a level 50 in halo.

So to all of you people who use button glitches, congratulations. You have made it impossible for someone to enjoy the game who doesnt want to spend hours mastering these glitches.

I completely agree, though personally I think PP/BR combo is worse. More common, too.

  • 12.24.2007 7:33 AM PDT

There was a man from Allentown who fed his son to death.
He calmly watched him gorge himself until his final breath.
And there he stood, surprised and shocked above his tiny frame.
He said: "I bear no blame for this. I only share his name!"

As bad as Halo 2 can be, Gears of War holds that title.

[Edited on 12.24.2007 3:03 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2007 3:03 PM PDT