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Yeah the BR is what the AR should have been in Halo. Its more like an SLR. The pistol was a sick gun with its scope but a pistol with a scope doesn't seem too realistic. pistols are more close quarters and self defence, not long range head shots.

  • 06.08.2004 10:10 PM PDT
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Think about how often you used the pistol compared to how often you use the AR. I'm sure, unless you're a noob, that you use the pistol as much as possible. If you consider the fact that in real life you would never find a pistol that is more powerful than an assault rifle than it seems ridiculous that Master Chief would prefer a pistol. For those of us who have read the books, the AR is cleary described as a bad ass weapon, I don't recall the pistol even being mentioned.

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Man, after seeing the first Halo 2 E3 Trailer i could see the Battle Rifle in the spot light. By observing Master Chief's battle with the Jackals at first i could instantly tell that this was an automatic weapon with the power of the Halo Pistol or "P-Shooter" as me and my friends call it. Assault Rifle has no chance, the pistols will beet it the SMG will beet it the Assault Rifle, obvioulsy the Covenant Energy Sabre and the list goes on so my heart is solely for the Battle Rifle (even though i like the SMGs more).

  • 06.08.2004 10:32 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Xeroh
"Keep em, keep em all, I enjoy beating down elites with good ol salty."
As a halo veteran my self,i have come to love the AR.I have become one with it and the sadistic sensation it gives you as you beat down the oncoming hordes.i say it should be included in halo2,it was the origanal room cleaner (and its not going to feel like your russian like the S.M.Gs),its the perfect support weapon,in halo 2 you could pin down the enemy while your special ops marines with S.M.Gs move in,as the enemy retreats switch to your battle rifle and pick 'em of with head shots.
Keep the AR

  • 06.08.2004 10:36 PM PDT
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I think that there should be a minauture mac cannon plasma laser pistol that homes in on anything that moves and has unlimited ammunition and the master cheif can hop on it and use it as a skateboard.

  • 06.08.2004 10:54 PM PDT
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About the New Mombasa Battle Rifle production problem theory. There's really no reason why they couldn't produce it there. Africa is not necessarily going to be poor in Halo 2. Remember one world government so the economical status of different cities even on different continents should not vary too much. Each city/territory probably just has remnants of it's country's native culture and religions but otherwise is consistent with the rest of the world. So as far as the story line is concerned it could be very possible. Besides keep in mind people it is a game and introducing new weapons cant always line up with the story line for obvious reasons.

Anyway I for one don't think the assault rifle should be in Halo 2 because to be honest I never ever use it. Well, except for flood popcorn guys (by the way if anybody knows the official name for those things, please tell me), to light up a cammo-ed enemy, or to go invisible faster after just picking up cammo. I never ever use it as an offensive weapon either against covenant or multiplayer Spartans and quite frankly I despise players who use it. I consider it disrespectful. Between pistol and assault rifle I always prefer pistol 10 to 1 even at close range. There are a lot of weapons that are better than pistol at close range but between pistol and assault rifle I will always opt for pistol. A lot of newbies automatically think it's better than the pistol just because its bigger. This bigger is better mentality is foolish because it's not about how big the weapon is it's more about your ability to use it and the assault rifle doesn't really have a very large margin of difference in talent. For example with a sniper rifle there is a vast difference in players abilities, also with the pistol and even the rocket launcher requires more talent (at least to use it effectively) than the assault rifle. See with the rocket launcher you have to develop a sense of relativity and be able to compensate for the delay when timing and placing your rockets especially against a vehicle which only comes with experience. However with the assault rifle there is really no difference between a newbie and a seasoned veteran using it.

However I don't believe the pistol or assault rifle will be in Halo 2 merely because of the need to maintain a sense of balance. Another instance in which more is not necessarily better. See I believe that the default weapons in Halo 2 will be the Battle Rifle and an SMG. The only statement in any way claiming that all Halo: Combat Evolved weapons will be in Halo 2 that I know of at least was the UGO Halo 2 preview article that simply stated, "Of course, there are many more [weapons] that have yet to be revealed, but the old standards are sure to be there as well." However in the E3 2004 Weekly Update Special Frankie stated, "And speaking of the battle rifle, people seemed to enjoy its intricacies. When in normal mode, it fires short bursts of fire, but zoomed, it fires single rounds, reminiscent of the pistol." Which leads me to believe that the pistol will not be in Halo 2, but who knows. Bungie has just sort of avoided clarifying either way. If anyone has any other form of proof that all old weapons will be included please post or email me. My email: [email]abijah@webdesignartist.net[/email]

I think you all have grown fond off the assault rifle merely because it epitomizes Halo. When people think Halo they envision a screenshot of a warthog being chased down by a banshee with a marine in the gunner on the actual level Halo. Virtually every screenshot Bungie has ever released with the MC in it has him holding an assault rifle. Even on the cover of the cd case. You never once see him with a pistol. As well as all the cut scenes in the game have him carrying an assault rifle, but regardless even I hate to loose a weapon. I have a soft spot in my heart for all of them, but I believe after a while we will learn to embrace the battle rifle as we did the pistol because I have a feeling it is the weapon that will be there for you through the good times and the bad in the same way that the pistol was so reliable in Halo: Combat Evolved. I don't know about you but if I don't have the pistol as one of my two weapons all the time I felt like I have my pants down or something. I never ever trade it off. Especially in multiplayer. The pistol always accompanies a more specialized weapon. For example pistol with plasma pistol. The plasma pistol to take down shields and the pistol for head shots.

Anyway I am really looking forward to the Battle Rifle. I really think the three shot bursts it deals zoomed out and single slugs at 2x is absolutely genius. Kudos to Bungie on that one. As far as wimpy? No, but I do believe it will be slightly weaker than the pistol of Halo: Combat Evolved. Once again leading to a greater balance. Many people, I for one, believe that the pistol is almost too powerful in the right hands, but that is the beauty of it: its only powerful if you have, “the right hands.” : ) Anyway I am sure I will be happy with the game no matter what they decide because they're Bungie and I'm sure they will make the right decision.

  • 06.09.2004 5:05 PM PDT
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Poll: Keep the AR  [closed]
Yes:  44%
(72 Votes)
No:  47%
(76 Votes)
Forget both and grab the SMGs:  9%
(14 Votes)
Total Votes: 162

Anyone feel the new Battle Rifle is a little...wimpy? No doubt powerful, and an effective tactical wepaon with it's semi-auto function and scope, but...anyone feel they should keep the classic Assault Rifle?

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I think they should keep all the weapons in Halo: CE, Halo: PC, and the ones there making in Halo 2. then that way there would be no arguments on which gun should be out or in, theyd all be there.

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add the assualt rifle and the battle rifle

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Remeber that it can fire 3rnd bursts when not zoomed. And for zoomed? Turbo all the way baby!

  • 06.09.2004 5:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan66will
the ar was a major part of the game in halo at least keep it in the
game but not make it a primary weapon like if there was a level in a muesam
then in a display there would be our ol' ma5b. and it would be usable.


Why would they have it in a museum? The differance between the 2 games is like a month or something, the battlerifle only just came out, they wouldnt put the classic assault rifle in a museum for like 50 years....

  • 06.09.2004 5:52 PM PDT
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THE AR rcoked and even thoguh i like the BR if they dont put the AR in there ill be mad. guess we will hatf to wait till NOV.9 Also if the Ar not in there at all how would that make sense a month later the main weapon of the whole unsc is just gone forever,that wouldnt be right...

[Edited on 6/9/2004 6:26:02 PM]

  • 06.09.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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It seemed like Halo 1's weapons were well balanced for single player... but not for multiplayer.

  • 06.09.2004 6:48 PM PDT
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I HATE THE ASSAULT RIFLE!!!!! I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT!!!!! The Battle Rifle is pretty cool though!!! Tyhe AR was the worst weapon in Halo1. I really hope they take it out!!!

  • 06.10.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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the pistol was mentioned. in The Flood, keyes gives mc the pistol and mc picks off a few grunts with it. but your right about it being said as bad ass in the books, the AR. but in the game, it is SO SUCKY!!!!!

  • 06.10.2004 1:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: AbijahManiaco
About the New Mombasa Battle Rifle production problem theory. There's really no reason why they couldn't produce it there. Africa is not necessarily going to be poor in Halo 2. Remember one world government so the economical status of different cities even on different continents should not vary too much. Each city/territory probably just has remnants of it's country's native culture and religions but otherwise is consistent with the rest of the world. So as far as the story line is concerned it could be very possible. Besides keep in mind people it is a game and introducing new weapons cant always line up with the story line for obvious reasons.

Anyway I for one don't think the assault rifle should be in Halo 2 because to be honest I never ever use it. Well, except for flood popcorn guys (by the way if anybody knows the official name for those things, please tell me), to light up a cammo-ed enemy, or to go invisible faster after just picking up cammo. I never ever use it as an offensive weapon either against covenant or multiplayer Spartans and quite frankly I despise players who use it. I consider it disrespectful. Between pistol and assault rifle I always prefer pistol 10 to 1 even at close range. There are a lot of weapons that are better than pistol at close range but between pistol and assault rifle I will always opt for pistol. A lot of newbies automatically think it's better than the pistol just because its bigger. This bigger is better mentality is foolish because it's not about how big the weapon is it's more about your ability to use it and the assault rifle doesn't really have a very large margin of difference in talent. For example with a sniper rifle there is a vast difference in players abilities, also with the pistol and even the rocket launcher requires more talent (at least to use it effectively) than the assault rifle. See with the rocket launcher you have to develop a sense of relativity and be able to compensate for the delay when timing and placing your rockets especially against a vehicle which only comes with experience. However with the assault rifle there is really no difference between a newbie and a seasoned veteran using it.

However I don't believe the pistol or assault rifle will be in Halo 2 merely because of the need to maintain a sense of balance. Another instance in which more is not necessarily better. See I believe that the default weapons in Halo 2 will be the Battle Rifle and an SMG. The only statement in any way claiming that all Halo: Combat Evolved weapons will be in Halo 2 that I know of at least was the UGO Halo 2 preview article that simply stated, "Of course, there are many more [weapons] that have yet to be revealed, but the old standards are sure to be there as well." However in the E3 2004 Weekly Update Special Frankie stated, "And speaking of the battle rifle, people seemed to enjoy its intricacies. When in normal mode, it fires short bursts of fire, but zoomed, it fires single rounds, reminiscent of the pistol." Which leads me to believe that the pistol will not be in Halo 2, but who knows. Bungie has just sort of avoided clarifying either way. If anyone has any other form of proof that all old weapons will be included please post or email me. My email: [email]abijah@webdesignartist.net[/email]

I think you all have grown fond off the assault rifle merely because it epitomizes Halo. When people think Halo they envision a screenshot of a warthog being chased down by a banshee with a marine in the gunner on the actual level Halo. Virtually every screenshot Bungie has ever released with the MC in it has him holding an assault rifle. Even on the cover of the cd case. You never once see him with a pistol. As well as all the cut scenes in the game have him carrying an assault rifle, but regardless even I hate to loose a weapon. I have a soft spot in my heart for all of them, but I believe after a while we will learn to embrace the battle rifle as we did the pistol because I have a feeling it is the weapon that will be there for you through the good times and the bad in the same way that the pistol was so reliable in Halo: Combat Evolved. I don't know about you but if I don't have the pistol as one of my two weapons all the time I felt like I have my pants down or something. I never ever trade it off. Especially in multiplayer. The pistol always accompanies a more specialized weapon. For example pistol with plasma pistol. The plasma pistol to take down shields and the pistol for head shots.

Anyway I am really looking forward to the Battle Rifle. I really think the three shot bursts it deals zoomed out and single slugs at 2x is absolutely genius. Kudos to Bungie on that one. As far as wimpy? No, but I do believe it will be slightly weaker than the pistol of Halo: Combat Evolved. Once again leading to a greater balance. Many people, I for one, believe that the pistol is almost too powerful in the right hands, but that is the beauty of it: its only powerful if you have, “the right hands.” : ) Anyway I am sure I will be happy with the game no matter what they decide because they're Bungie and I'm sure they will make the right decision.


You are so right about the Battle Rifle. It is kikass. And the "popcorn flood" are called "Infection Form" i read it in the official strategy guide. And no i never used it. it is my friends.

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Posted by: Damocles Sword
Wouldn't it be a little unrealistic for the main weapon of the UNSC (which I thought was the Assault Rifle) to dissapear completely and be replaced by a weapon with a different role, namely the Battle Rifle? Although I'm not a huge fan of the AR, I'd like to see it in the game if just for the sake of continuity between the games.


Well actualy its not to unrealistic because it has happened in our past too
In WWII and maybe 50 years ago the Militarys weapon of choice was the M1 Garand and what not, but now it is the M16 and M4A1, and variations of those weapons. I think that it is entirely possible (not to mention it IS a game after all that took place a while after halo 1) and im happy it is being upgraded, but if its in there i wont care...even tho its basically been replaced by the SMG

  • 06.10.2004 1:35 PM PDT

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